Guest material_boy Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 According to Mike McKnight, who was part of Madonna's live band from 1990-2005, "Skin" was actually part of the initial RIT setlist as of 19 February 2004, when rehearsals started. A missed opportunity, indeed! Later on, it was replaced by "Nothing Really Matters", which was eventually dropped in favour of "Frozen". Oh that's right! I'd forgotten they'd rehearsed it for RIT -- but I thought it "Skin" and "NRM" were both rehearsed in the spot that eventually went to "Nobody Knows Me?" (It's been so long since I thought about this stuff ...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples388 Posted August 3, 2015 Author Share Posted August 3, 2015 I remember reading that "Nothing Really Matters" was initially rehearsed for RIT and that apparently the "Nobody Knows Me" choreography was originally rehearsed for NRM.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msig Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Oh that's right! I'd forgotten they'd rehearsed it for RIT -- but I thought it "Skin" and "NRM" were both rehearsed in the spot that eventually went to "Nobody Knows Me?" (It's been so long since I thought about this stuff ...) This was the initially rehearsed RIT setlist, i.e. the setlist as it was when band rehearsals started: The Beast Within Vogue Swim Nobody Knows Me Express Yourself American Life Burning Up Love Profusion I'm So Stupid Hollywood The Devil Wouldn't Recognise You Hanky Panky Dress You Up Take a Bow Bedtime Story Like a Prayer Don't Tell Me Mother and Father Live to Tell Into the Groove OR Holiday Music Crazy for You Die Another Day As we all know, 6 of those songs didn't make it to the final setlist, and the order was reshuffled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msig Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I remember reading that "Nothing Really Matters" was initially rehearsed for RIT and that apparently the "Nobody Knows Me" choreography was originally rehearsed for NRM.. Aa far as I've heard, "Nothing Really Matters" and "Nobody Knows Me" were at one point both in the setlist, performed back-to-back with M alone on stage. When NRM was removed from the setlist, parts of the choreography were incorporated into NKM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaron Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 This was the initially rehearsed RIT setlist, i.e. the setlist as it was when band rehearsals started: The Beast Within Vogue Swim Nobody Knows Me Express Yourself American Life Burning Up Love Profusion I'm So Stupid Hollywood The Devil Wouldn't Recognise You Hanky Panky Dress You Up Take a Bow Bedtime Story Like a Prayer Don't Tell Me Mother and Father Live to Tell Into the Groove OR Holiday Music Crazy for You Die Another Day As we all know, 6 of those songs didn't make it to the final setlist, and the order was reshuffled. Thats a song from Hard Candy. And RIT was before that album release ? Did she want to surprise us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HavenHigh Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Aa far as I've heard, "Nothing Really Matters" and "Nobody Knows Me" were at one point both in the setlist, performed back-to-back with M alone on stage. When NRM was removed from the setlist, parts of the choreography were incorporated into NKM. Nothing Really Matters was only mentioned by fansites and other supposed insiders, never confirmed. As it was not on that provisional setlist you posted, nor Jamie King ever talked about it, so it's likely not even true. And surely you confused Skin with Swim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightcutter Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Thats a song from Hard Candy. And RIT was before that album release ? Did she want to surprise us ? It was written for a musical she was working on. I think in its original form it was country-tinged and acoustic. She reworked it for HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest material_boy Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Thats a song from Hard Candy. And RIT was before that album release ? Did she want to surprise us ? Rumor had it in 2003 - 2004 that Madonna was working on an original musical called "Hello Suckers" with various collaborators -- Pat Leonard and Joe Henry are the only two I can remember now. "Devil" emerged at this time as an acoustic track, as did "How High." She rewrote "How High" with Bloodshy & Avant for release on "Confessions" and then rewrote "Devil" for "Hard Candy." Some of the demo tracks from "Hello Suckers" have made it to the net, like this one -- which contains some lyrics that ended up "Voices." This is one of my all-time favorite unreleased tracks. God, I wish this musical had come together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaron Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 nightcutter & material_boythank you very much for the informations. Very interesting indeed. Whos knows what kind of precious treasures Madonna still have in her back cataloge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip The Switch Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 OYH was just...okay. At least it was recognisable. But you have a song with THAT bassline and those kick drums and you turn it into a droning dirge? Just no. My abiding memory from Edinburgh is the whole stadium just keeping-on singing PDP while she did her HU intro thing Hopefully she heard it through her ear monitors. It was atrocious! Not to mention the crime with HU as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Lecter Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 My non loon friend who went said she or goosebumps and shivers when the PDP strings came on. Then boom over. She's such a tease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashtangi74 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 any more news on this forthcoming tour?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuckeye Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 only that it starts soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest material_boy Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Have they tightened up shop since the demo leaks in December? It seems like we're usually hearing all sorts of rumors by this point in the tour planning / rehearsals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeMySoul Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 her pussy aint leaking no more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashtangi74 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 news of madonna just reported that deeper and deeper will be part of the show.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest material_boy Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 news of madonna just reported that deeper and deeper will be part of the show.. YESSSSSSSSS More confirmation that the Instragram hints are the actual setlist. Very excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msig Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Nothing Really Matters was only mentioned by fansites and other supposed insiders, never confirmed. As it was not on that provisional setlist you posted, nor Jamie King ever talked about it, so it's likely not even true. And surely you confused Skin with Swim. Have they tightened up shop since the demo leaks in December? It seems like we're usually hearing all sorts of rumors by this point in the tour planning / rehearsals. Definitely! Usually, we'd know most, if not all, of the setlist by know, i.e. we'd have detailed reports by reliable sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HavenHigh Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 news of madonna just reported that deeper and deeper will be part of the show.. Possibly the most exciting setlist entry so far! Hope it's a big dance number this time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msig Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 This is one of my all-time favorite unreleased tracks. God, I wish this musical had come together Indeed! The lyrics are so beautiful! Treat me like a curse, then tell me I'm your savior I'm living with a stranger I used to know so well Waiting for your answer is a kind of torture Could I grow accustomed to this kind of hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeMySoul Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Possibly the most exciting setlist entry so far! Hope it's a big dance number this time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george28 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I'm going ape shit that I will finally be able to tell the tale that I saw Deeper and Deeper live and hopefully closer to the original and not a slow version like RIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CzarnaWisnia Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Coming home from work I just saw a big tour poster on the side of a bus in Quebec city. It looks real good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CzarnaWisnia Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I must be in the minority but I loved MDNA OYH performance. Me too, it's wonderful and dynamic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markm Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I enjoyed "Open your Heart" from the MDNA Tour but both my friends (who are casual Madonna fans, y'know the type that owns TIC, ROL and maybe one more album, never been to see her live etc.) who were with me at the London show were all "WTF" about it to be honest. Their memory of the MDNA show is a whole load of songs they didn't know, or old songs that had bizarre reinventions they didn't like, with 50 seconds of PDP that they loved and EY, LAP and Vogue which they went crazy for and wished the whole show was like that. We've been over this one many times I know, but just saying.... You not alone, the people I went with are casual fans ( or were causal fans until the Hyde Park show now they say they will never pay a lot of money to see her again). For the first 4 songs they were like WTF??? She lost peoples attention because of the lack of a huge hit and then she literally destroyed HU her biggest song ever by reducing it to a dreadful dirge. When PDP started my friends screamed and danced and then went crazy to EY. For OYH they did get all the talk about crushed apples (anyone remember her speech before OYH?) They loved Vogue, LAP, HN and Celebration but didn't think the show was worth the money and left disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaything Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 You not alone, the people I went with are casual fans ( or were causal fans until the Hyde Park show now they say they will never pay a lot of money to see her again). For the first 4 songs they were like WTF??? She lost peoples attention because of the lack of a huge hit and then she literally destroyed HU her biggest song ever by reducing it to a dreadful dirge. When PDP started my friends screamed and danced and then went crazy to EY. For OYH they did get all the talk about crushed apples (anyone remember her speech before OYH?) They loved Vogue, LAP, HN and Celebration but didn't think the show was worth the money and left disappointed. I understand that people expect more hits but it's kind of disrespectful that she apparently lost peoples attention just because she opened the show with a couple of songs from the album she named the tour after. If they left disappointed because they didn't know the songs, then that's their problem. You never hear these kinda stories with other artists, it seems. I went to see Björk yesterday, her tour is called Vulnicura Tour because she is touring her current album and out of a 16 track setlist she played 8 new songs. In fact, the first 5 songs were all from the new album but the whole audience was in awe and loved it (as far as I could tell). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnian Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Yay for Deeper and Deeper This tour is going to be so awesome to see It keeps getting better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I understand that people expect more hits but it's kind of disrespectful that she apparently lost peoples attention just because she opened the show with a couple of songs from the album she named the tour after. If they left disappointed because they didn't know the songs, then that's their problem. You never hear these kinda stories with other artists, it seems. I went to see Björk yesterday, her tour is called Vulnicura Tour because she is touring her current album and out of a 16 track setlist she played 8 new songs. In fact, the first 5 songs were all from the new album but the whole audience was in awe and loved it (as far as I could tell). Well wakey wakey, hand off snakey. Madonna is NOT Bjork. Bjork is an alternative artist with a cult following doing concerts for 2000 people. Madonna is a mainstream pop SUPERSTAR with dozens of hits performing to 15,000 plus per show including thousands of casual fans expecting hits. Very different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 You never hear these kinda stories with other artists, it seems. I went to see Björk yesterday, her tour is called Vulnicura Tour because she is touring her current album and out of a 16 track setlist she played 8 new songs. In fact, the first 5 songs were all from the new album but the whole audience was in awe and loved it (as far as I could tell). Totally different artists and fanbases though, you must admit. Madonna IS in legacy act status at this point, and a large proportion of her attendees want to hear the hits - end of. Otherwise M will be playing to the same size live audience that Bjork does, except for $5000 a ticket, or not at all... When PDP started my friends screamed and danced and then went crazy to EY. Even the ROAR that the lil tiny Material Girl snippet got in GGW.... Anyway this is all academic. I'm pretty sure she knows what she has to do at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Lecter Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 news of madonna just reported that deeper and deeper will be part of the show.. I need that Blanche Devereaux water spraying herself gif post haste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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