justinian Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Nikki said: madonna is the most successful female in Germany.. it's just the media that's always been nasty She might be most successful....but strangely her number ones in Germany only 4: la Isla bonita, american pie, hung up and 4 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaything Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, justinian said: She might be most successful....but strangely her number ones in Germany only 4: la Isla bonita, american pie, hung up and 4 minutes Well, world hits like Like A Prayer or Music got blocked from #1 by David Hasselhoff or Britney‘s classic gem „Lucky“. But enough of that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 currently sitting at 78 on metacritic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Kilt said: But even her old fans will not be able to fool her with an X for a U: in the meantime, they would probably rather prefer the quiet singer / songwriter album. But Madonna's play was never the authentic, but always the artificial character veneer. She can not do anything else. She can not think of music or the blues, she can not give a solo evening on the piano, and there is no gospel concert in the church. Her techniques were always just the cultural imperialist of Western pop, her performative capital was always her body as well - both are now exhausted. So Madonna dances lonely from the ruins of her throne her gloomy ballet. And the young princesses celebrate in the former colonies. For them, this fairytale has a happy ending. For the queen? Who knows. The Speigel reviewer word choice is just beyond dramatic and pretentious. Omg Talk about embarrassing Shitty writing at its finest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted June 6, 2019 Share Posted June 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Musicinferno said: True. Germany loves Madonna. Even those who hate to admit it. I think most among the GP in any country generally truly love Madonna and are fascinated by her, not everyone likes her but virtually everyone is aware of her and has an opinion on her, it's more a narrative created by the media whether they love to underline her age, the false fact that "through ambition and determination she compensated her modest talent" or that she's desperate whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Kilt said: . Her techniques were always just the cultural imperialist of Western pop, her performative capital was always her body as well - both are now exhausted. i'm not an M apologist and i'll tell you if i think she's done something subpar but this is honestly one of the nastiest "reviews" i've ever seen directed at anyone. That line stopped me in my tracks, I hope she never comes across it. Cruel and uncalled for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcbyebyebaby Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Im confused on why the Entertainment Weekly review gave her a B- but that translates to a 67 on metacritic. I understand they weigh different publications differently but thats for the average. Wouldnt a B- be more like a 75 or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesshot Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Those "reviewers" read projection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Future feat Quavo Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 2 hours ago, dcbyebyebaby said: Im confused on why the Entertainment Weekly review gave her a B- but that translates to a 67 on metacritic. I understand they weigh different publications differently but thats for the average. Wouldnt a B- be more like a 75 or something? B is a 75, B+ is an 83 and B- is a 67 https://www.metacritic.com/about-metascores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samo Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 7 hours ago, justinian said: She might be most successful....but strangely her number ones in Germany only 4: la Isla bonita, american pie, hung up and 4 minutes Well Janet Jackson has ZERO #1 hits in Germany God was she a local star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollhouse Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 13 hours ago, kubi said: Why do German media dislike her so much? Hilariously I have a few friends there who are massive fans. Like homegurl changes his Instagram handle to reflect his Madonna mood, lol. Germany is big Eurovision loony, so her performance there just put gasoline to these "reviewers" negative fire Nothing to do with the album itself, of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollhouse Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 14 hours ago, Jim34 said: The hate she gets from the critics here in Germany is crazy! They tear her and the album in peaces. Quite shocking for me. The critics are out of Control. Like they waited for this moment for years. They are probably embarrassed for their negative reviews when they see the overwhelming positive feedback from her latest video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toujours Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/6/2019 at 1:01 PM, Kilt said: Let's cleanse this negativity with some Maluma bitter taste gone for now. thanks, maluma. and for posting this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapertje Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 45 minutes ago, dollhouse said: Germany is big Eurovision loony, so her performance there just put gasoline to these "reviewers" negative fire Nothing to do with the album itself, of course Thank God for their 0 points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Instinct Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 43 minutes ago, Hapertje said: Thank God for their 0 points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalinB Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 With 5 reviews in, Madame X has a 78 Metascore. https://www.metacritic.com/music/madame-x/madonna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocolattee Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Animal Instinct said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRainbowKid Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I haven't read any review from French medias yet. For the past few years, the French press has been quite negative with Madonna... Hope they will put aside all the ageist comments and her personal life, and just focus on the only important thing: the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollhouse Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 44 minutes ago, TheRainbowKid said: I haven't read any review from French medias yet. For the past few years, the French press has been quite negative with Madonna... Hope they will put aside all the ageist comments and her personal life, and just focus on the only important thing: the music. The French people really loved American Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
side_streets Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 IMO, the album seems to be more divisive among fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Msig Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 MadonnaTribe reports that the Italian press was invited to listen to Madame X yesterday, and their reviews have started appearing: Vanity Fair Italia: Very positive. The reviewer says that not everyone is gonna like it. Rockol: Mixed. The reviewers seems most impressed by "Come Alive" and "Faz Gostoso". Il Manifesto: Very positive. Ansa: Rather objective/neutral in its descriptions of the songs, but feels generally favourable. La Presse: Very positive. The reviewer describes "Dark Ballet" and "Extreme Occident" as 'successful experiments', and mentions "Killers Who Are Partying" as a highlight. Paolo Giordano: Very positive. He mentions "Batuka" as one of the best songs on the album. Pickline: Mixed. "Crave", "Crazy", "I Rise", "God Control" and Faz Gostoso" are mentioned as highlights. GingerGeneration: Generally favourable. The reviewer seems most impressed by "I Don't Search I Find", "Killers Who Are Partying", "Bitch I'm Loca" and"Faz Gostoso". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ciccone Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Msig said: MadonnaTribe reports that the Italian press was invited to listen to Madame X yesterday, and their reviews have started appearing: Vanity Fair Italia: Very positive. The reviewer says that not everyone is gonna like it. Rockol: Mixed. The reviewers seems most impressed by "Come Alive" and "Faz Gostoso". Il Manifesto: Very positive. Ansa: Rather objective/neutral in its descriptions of the songs, but feels generally favourable. La Presse: Very positive. The reviewer describes "Dark Ballet" and "Extreme Occident" as 'successful experiments', and mentions "Killers Who Are Partying" as a highlight. Paolo Giordano: Very positive. He mentions "Batuka" as one of the best songs on the album. Pickline: Mixed. "Crave", "Crazy", "I Rise", "God Control" and Faz Gostoso" are mentioned as highlights. GingerGeneration: Generally favourable. The reviewer seems most impressed by "I Don't Search I Find", "Killers Who Are Partying", "Bitch I'm Loca" and"Faz Gostoso". Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smirnoff_ice Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 That's good news. So interesting that the reviews vary massively between countries. And in Italy, every paper seem to highlight a different song which is also great! Killers who are partying not very favourable with the Brits, popular in Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crux Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 It's interesting that Paolo Giordano says "Batuka" is one of the best songs on the album. Can't wait to hear that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocolattee Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Faz Gostoso seems to be generally very well received... I'm curious because I don't think the original is all that great, I hope they took it to a whole different place Also I'm so intrigued by the descriptions of God Control and Batuka! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaything Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I can't wait for more detailed track by track reviews to appear (hopefully before the album drops/leaks)! Reading them drives up my adrenaline and is my favorite "waiting-for-the-album" activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitho Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I recognized the negative press reviews here in Germany as well but I don't even read them because they are so unimportant to me. It even bothers me that these people get the chance to listen to the album so much in advance, completely undeserved. Maybe the negative press has something to do with Madonna having done no live performances since 2005, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Crux said: It's interesting that Paolo Giordano says "Batuka" is one of the best songs on the album. Can't wait to hear that one. His review is as close to a rave fest about her as you could get. He's saying this is positively her best work in over a decade and that Madonna has managed to do the impossible. Remain herself while changing everything at the same time yet not making it feel like it would be an unnatural or unbecoming move on her part. Musically speaking, "she sits firmly on her well deserved throne". "Madame X is a complex, pressing, syncopated, albeit too homogeneous at times album, although there are so many interesting stylistic variations and twists and turns that materialize when you least expect it. But most of all you have the greatest twist ever: the rebirth of an icon who is the same yet anew at the same time. My hat's off to her" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 He also praises her for singing in three languages and for the Latin dimension of this new work. It's unlike anything pertaining to the Latin category you hear on radio these days. He says Madonna's interpretation and take on Latin music is much more profound and eclectic. The album as a whole feels like a trip around the world and back in 15 songs and that it's filled with refined musical citations, references and homages done with extreme elegance. He mentions the "composed use" of autotune on the album and the vocal effects, it's not been overdone and praises the music arrangements which he says are flattering to Madonna's vocal extension Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
side_streets Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, XXL said: He also praises her for singing in three languages and for the Latin dimension of this new work. It's unlike anything pertaining to the Latin category you hear on radio these days. He says Madonna's interpretation and take on Latin music is much more profound and eclectic. The album as a whole feels like a trip around the world in 15 songs and that it's filled with refined musical citations, references and homages done with extreme elegance. He mentions the "composed use" of autotune on the album and the vocal effects, it's not been overdone and praises the music arrangements which he says are flattering to Madonna's vocal extension Fantastico!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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