Phineaspoe Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 it's a good pop song, and the tour remix is AMAZING. End of the story. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magom Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I DON'T LIKE IT... I hope I have in Mexico only one add and that's Holiday, that's all I want from the original set list. Even Like a virgin would work better without Love Spent here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I don't mind it but I'd prefer Celebration on its own for the DVD. It just works better that way. I also want Holiday and Love Spent included. No more changes necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frzndrwnwrld Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I read people's comments before watching the video, so I expected it to be bad. I actually really like it. I don't understand why people think it doesn't flow. I think it works well since the majority of the song is still Celebration. It just had hints of Give It 2 Me thrown in. Even though I like it, I agree that it would have been better to mix it with Holiday instead or just leave it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 But she threw it in during the best part, and sang over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I read people's comments before watching the video, so I expected it to be bad. I actually really like it. I don't understand why people think it doesn't flow. I think it works well since the majority of the song is still Celebration. It just had hints of Give It 2 Me thrown in. Even though I like it, I agree that it would have been better to mix it with Holiday instead or just leave it alone. It's not that it doesn't work. It was just already perfect how it was. It's one of the best performances in the show imo. Can't wait to get that shit on DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugbyguy Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I actually loved it but yes I do agree it is perfect the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPowered Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 You don't think She's not me and Candy shop fit? Wow. No...Candy Shop has nothing in common with the theme of MDNA. In fact, that whole section doesn't fit in with the theme of the album, except HN and LAV/LS. I actually loved Candy Shop from day one, but this tour inclusion, which isn't even as good as M herself thinks it is, nor vocally, nor musically, makes me wanna hate that song. She should've done Erotica, Physical Attraction or whatever other song instead. Actually I'm still not satisfied with the setlist of MDNA and you can hate me as much as you want, but that's just my opinion. I think it's just too much of a rehash of Sticky and Sweet. Too many songs she already did many times! The stage design, the backdrops and everything else is absolutely fantastic and it's definately her best stage ever, but the setlist is not good. And now the inclusion of Give It 2 Me and Holiday, too...my god! Give It 2 Me is my least favourite song on HC and Holiday is so freakin' overdone...It's not even funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPowered Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I DON'T LIKE IT... I hope I have in Mexico only one add and that's Holiday, that's all I want from the original set list. Even Like a virgin would work better without Love Spent here. Dafuq? You've got to be kidding me! It's already bad enough she left LS out for most of the tour. I wouldn't mind if LAV was replaced completely, her vocals are terrible and that arrangement kills the song and Holiday is waaaay overdone, as I already said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMoody Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Did she keep GI2M for the following show(s)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Holiday deserves to be done to death imo. It's an anthem on tour along with Music, Ray of Light, Like a Prayer and Vogue. The only song I think has been overdone is La Isla Bonita, it's a classic but not in the league of the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic_system Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Dafuq? You've got to be kidding me! It's already bad enough she left LS out for most of the tour. I wouldn't mind if LAV was replaced completely, her vocals are terrible and that arrangement kills the song and Holiday is waaaay overdone, as I already said. Do you actually like something on the tour? LAV bad vocals? Oh god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb19 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 No...Candy Shop has nothing in common with the theme of MDNA. In fact, that whole section doesn't fit in with the theme of the album, except HN and LAV/LS. I don't know, I see that whole section as being about her sexuality and femininity. She opens with Vogue, which is sexy, classic, people revere "Vogue" madonna as being beautiful and perfect. She immediately follows it with Candy Shop/Erotica. I see her drawing parralels between the criticism she got for her overt sexuality during the Sex period and the criticism she got for even hinting she had a sexuality at 51 during Hard Candy. The use of Human Nature afterwards drives that home, as it was originally a fuck you to the Sex controversy, she makes it a fuck you to the controversy, if you can call it that, of her being sexual and middle aged. Finally, Like a Virgin inverts the original idea of youthful lust and turns it into a mourning of real love. She takes the theme all the way from the massive public eye, right down to her own personal sphere, and illustrates all the emotions implicit in it for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeravA Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Thank you! Very well put Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aorlaan Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 It wasnt amazing but i luv that she is changing things up on this tour constantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluejean Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I don't know, I see that whole section as being about her sexuality and femininity. She opens with Vogue, which is sexy, classic, people revere "Vogue" madonna as being beautiful and perfect. She immediately follows it with Candy Shop/Erotica. I see her drawing parralels between the criticism she got for her overt sexuality during the Sex period and the criticism she got for even hinting she had a sexuality at 51 during Hard Candy. The use of Human Nature afterwards drives that home, as it was originally a fuck you to the Sex controversy, she makes it a fuck you to the controversy, if you can call it that, of her being sexual and middle aged. Finally, Like a Virgin inverts the original idea of youthful lust and turns it into a mourning of real love. She takes the theme all the way from the massive public eye, right down to her own personal sphere, and illustrates all the emotions implicit in it for her. Interesting analysis. Also, there's that whole thing with the tightening of the corset. Since corsets are used to make a woman's waist size ideal, like an hour glass figure that whole section to me represents society trying to make her conform and fit her into a mould which virtually strangles her to the point of not being able to breathe. But I also suspect it's also largely about Guy Ritchie having that impact on Madonna as well, which is why she sings such a heartbreaking version of Like a Virgin. Merging it into Love Spent kind of reaffirms that and from what I recall from earlier leaked setlists it was originally going to be Falling Free or Love Spent, then they went with Like a Virgin in the end. It's truly a highlight of the show, even better with Love Spent included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 No...Candy Shop has nothing in common with the theme of MDNA. In fact, that whole section doesn't fit in with the theme of the album, except HN and LAV/LS. I actually loved Candy Shop from day one, but this tour inclusion, which isn't even as good as M herself thinks it is, nor vocally, nor musically, makes me wanna hate that song. She should've done Erotica, Physical Attraction or whatever other song instead. Actually I'm still not satisfied with the setlist of MDNA and you can hate me as much as you want, but that's just my opinion. I think it's just too much of a rehash of Sticky and Sweet. Too many songs she already did many times! The stage design, the backdrops and everything else is absolutely fantastic and it's definately her best stage ever, but the setlist is not good. And now the inclusion of Give It 2 Me and Holiday, too...my god! Give It 2 Me is my least favourite song on HC and Holiday is so freakin' overdone...It's not even funny! You clearly don't understand the narrative of this tour...at all. From JML until and including Human nature it's about hedonism and exploration. The tour narrative is THE SIN/THE SEARCH/THE PLEASURE/THE RECONCILIATION. The pleasure is the moment at which you've dealt with your demons and emotions enough to allow you to seek physical pleasure and satisfaction. The relevance of JUSTIFY MY LOVE. Vogue is a song about unashamedly appropriating ones physical beauty for everybody to see. It's a primal mating call. S E X. The Candy shop is a cheesy metaphor for sexual exploration obviously. It's use in the narrative is about a person feeling able to explore their sexuality and choose from the delights at their disposal. It works perfectly. Human nature really needs no explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Oh and just so you know the reconciliation begins with the ending of Like a Virgin. It's a comment on the limitations of physical lust and the inherent need for humans to repress even those that they love. She ends saying that she has peace and understand for herself and 'is a sinner and likes it that way'. Says her prayers and celebrates. You could ask Madonna and she would say its spot on. I can guarantee that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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