Love Spent
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Please read the following with an open mind. He is NOT questioning the intelligence of Clinton supporters. This is from Scott Adams, the creator of the cartoon Dilbert. He's a trained Hypnotist with a backround in psychology.
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'' We’re living in one of the most interesting times in human history. We just witnessed reality forking into two separate paths right in front of us.
As regular readers of this blog know, my background in hypnosis and persuasion has erased my belief that some people can see reality for what it is and some cannot. My worldview is that the human brain did not evolve to understand reality on any deep level because we don’t need that ability to survive and reproduce. If your illusion keeps you alive, it’s good enough. And that brings me to today.The election of Donald Trump to the Presidency of the United States has effectively forked reality into two versions that are running in parallel. Clinton’s supporters believe they are living in a world that is a repeat of 1930s Germany, with Trump playing the part of Adolf Hitler. See this reaction for a typical example.
Meanwhile, the other half of the country believes we elected a highly-capable populist who will “drain the swamp” and bring a business approach to government along with greater prosperity.So how do you know which reality is the real one? The fast answer is that you can’t know. As I said, the human brain did not evolve to understand reality. But just for fun and education, I’ll tell you the best way dig down to the next layer of truth: Look for the Cognitive Dissonance trigger.
In this case, Clinton supporters were persuaded to believe that Trump is OBVIOUSLY the next coming of Hitler. Or maybe worse because Trump is also rude and sexist. If that version of reality is true, Trump could not have been elected president. But he was. That’s the trigger for cognitive dissonance: two observations that don’t fit together.
How can it simultaneously be true that Trump is OBVIOUSLY the next Hitler while it is also true that half the country didn’t notice? There are at least three ways to explain-away this dissonance. Maybe…
1. Half the country are sexist, racist monsters too, so they like Trump.
or…
2. Half the country is stupid and can’t identify a Hitler that is right in front of them.
or…
3. Clinton supporters have been duped into believing something ridiculous about Trump.Given this set-up, most normal human minds would assume the problem was with other people. That’s how cognitive dissonance works. We like to think we are rational while others are not. So you would expect in this situation that Clinton supporters would enter a type of dream state in which they interpret their reality as being surrounded by racist-sexist-stupid citizens who just elected a genocidal dictator. They have to enter this dream because the only alternative involves believing that they themselves are gullible and deluded.
Trump supporters have no such trigger for cognitive dissonance in this particular case because their candidate won. Their worldview is consistent...
For further evidence that the anti-Trumpers are living in an illusion, consider that the street protests against Trump fizzled out. That means the illusion of Trump-as-Hitler is already starting to fade. You also see it in the surging stock market and in the sharp uptick in citizen confidence in the economy.
The Hitler illusion will continue to fade. But for now the citizens of the United States live in two separate realities...''
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@pjcowley The Madman! Never saw that footage before.
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3 minutes ago, drunkbysix said:
Why does she always look like she's struggling to see somebody in the distance
She's trying to imagine herself as first lady.
@LSD You're killing me!
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No problem. I'm the same!
why else would I keep coming back to this thread.
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I'm glad we can agree.
I've tried to put myself in the shoes of a person who voted for her and I imagined I'd be hugely disappointed and annoyed but I'd accept it because this is the system, albeit flawed, we are working with.
It just feels disingenuous for people to cry about this, after the fact. The 'unthinkable' happened and now people demand a negotiation, despite knowing the rules beforehand. You know?
Anyway, I'm done beating this dead horse. 😀 Good day to you!
I'm glad we've found common ground @runa!
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And just for clarification, I am NOT a Republican. I have voted Democrat my entire adult life, until this election.
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Do you remember the HUGE outcry from the Obama (Hope and CHANGE candidate) and Clinton campaign about how corrupt and unfair the electoral college system was?
Yeah, neither do I.
Both parties accepted the current system and campaigned accordingly. Clinton and Obama even did rallies in PA and Michigan a week before the election, because they knew it would be close, and they NEEDED those Electoral votes.
3. Bargaining – The third stage of grief is Bargaining. This is when those who are grieving are reaching out to the universe to make the pain go away. People will often try to make a deal, or promise to do anything, if the pain will be taken away.
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They agreed to run under the system that has been in place for 200+ years. They campaigned based on electorally significant areas, not population centers. Hillary conceded.
Trump said '' To say you wont respect the results of an election __ THAT IS A DIRECT THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY! ''
Oh wait, that quote was actually Hillary Clinton.
America is a Constitutional Republic. The Electoral College was created specifically with the purpose of preventing high population states like CA from picking the winners.
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His cover is not an achievement but I guess the people who only listened to mainstream media for their election coverage were pretty shocked on Nov 8th.
Not surprised.
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@ULIZOS Great to see!
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I appreciate your very thoughtful response.
The Make Germany Great Again was just a joke, by the way. 😀
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5 hours ago, Sloane said:
That phone looks ugly as hell. They need America's help.
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1 hour ago, spazz said:
What's wrong with that?
millions of ppl voted for him
62 million people, in fact. 😊
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50 billion dollars invested in US based start ups, what is wrong with that? Google and Youtube were also small 'start ups' once upon a time. Trump never implied he was trying to improve conditions only in the 'heartland', but all across America.
Let's face it, some of you would shit on any positive outcomes from this administration. It's like some sort of reflex. Very odd.
I'd love to hear about any 50 billion dollar business investments that have been brokered by the outgoing administration. None come to mind. Go ahead, I'll wait for you to find them.
Trump is FAR from perfect but at some point you have to give this a chance to work. Are you folks just going to be bitter for the next 8 years?
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SoftBank Pledges to Invest $50 Billion in U.S. After Meeting With Trump
After meeting with Donald Trump on Tuesday, Japanese tech billionaire Masayoshi Son said he will invest $50 billion in the United States and would "commit" to creating 50,000 new jobs.
"I just came to celebrate his new job," Son said. "I said, 'This is great, the U.S. will become great again'."
Son is the founder and chief executive of SoftBank, one of Japan's largest technology outfits, which owns the U.S. mobile carrier Sprint. Sprint shares initially spiked after the announcement.
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Trump supporter is not a pejorative.
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I was shocked to see Rest in Peace (RIP) messages in this thread.
Hopefully they meant Rot in Pieces. Good riddance, Fidel.
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It was close though. Hofer got something like 46%.
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In huge bolded font in case you didn't get the hint.
some of you are hilarious.
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50 minutes ago, GOD said:
I don't get it. If they raised 7 million why can't they pay?
Greed, corruption, theft....
You get the picture. And don't forget..no refunds for those who donated.
Oh I almost forgot. After spending more than 3 million dollars for the Wisconsin recount, three days in they have found:
Hillary: 3 new votes
Trump: 6 new votes
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48 minutes ago, GOD said:
How is the recount going? Any updates?
The recount has collapsed.
'' Lawyers for the Green Party withdrew a lawsuit, saying they don’t have the $1 million bond required to continue the challenge filed to initiate the recount, the Associated Press reported on December 3.
With a recount effort doomed in Pennsylvania, Trump will still have more than the needed 270 Electoral College votes — even if recounts in Wisconsin and Michigan would both be awarded to Clinton. ''
After raising 7 million dollars!!!
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9 hours ago, spazz said:
This is an old video
now he is power and he will lock her up where she belongs
If Trump , as president elect, reiterated he'd like to investigate her again, she would be pardoned by Obama before he leaves office.
It's a calculated move.
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1 hour ago, tumbleweedt said:
You're killing me with these Shining gifs!
@Kurt420 Are you feeling okay?
Cairo explosion at Coptic chapel where at least 25 worshippers were slaughtered as they prayed
in Politics and World Events
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I'm glad you made this thread.
There was another attack on Dec 9th.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/explosion-kills-6-egyptian-policemen-injures-others-in-cairo/2016/12/09/1faa86ab-963b-4818-bc3f-30f056da0099_story.html?utm_term=.f96a8362a0bb