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11 hours ago, Ciccone's Cheeks said:

u ramble and seem as unlikable grating as that damn rancid moth ball stinky Danielle Pletka who frequently  infests my weekend morning news with Chuck Todd. Wow. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hahaha who the fuck is this cunt?!?

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On 12/10/2017 at 1:55 AM, Napoléon said:

No, this is actually massively incorrect. I don't think you understand Australian demographics and how they translate in Australian politics. The result was [directly a reflection of cultural issues in Australia. The Sydney suburbs that voted no (and many other No voting electorates) have high proportions of immigrants or "first generation" Australians. Particularly they are of Muslim or Orthodox backgrounds who are way less likely to support marriage equality. These electorates also tend to have a lower socio-economic status. Lower socio-economic electorates are also more likely to vote Labor which is the working class/Union backed party in Australia.

The electorates that voted yes were more likely to be "white", university educated and wealthier. They also tended to be in Liberal electorates. (This is a bit of a misnomer because the Liberal party are considered the conservative party of Australian politics.)

The irony here is that the Australian media pushed the view that Labor voters were strongly in support of marriage equality whereas Liberals were seen to want it to fail. This was based on the vocal elements of each party and is the reason why we ended up with a postal vote. During the "campaign" many Liberal politicians were pushing the message that their "conservative" electorates were in favor of traditional marriage including the former PM Tony Abbott (who's electorate returned one of the highest yes votes I believe). Basically both parties were in contrast to what their electorates voted overall.

 

Well, in a way that supports that cultural issues are not that relevant when it comes to voting in a general election. It's all about socio-economic status. Otherwise the NO areas in Sydney wouldn't be such Labour strongholds since Labour is considered more gay friendly. Also, Tony Abbott's voters obviously do not care about the fact that he's such a bigot even though they overwhelmingly support gay marriage. I guess tax cuts, smaller government, less state intervention, free trade or whatever else Abbott's party stands for are much more important to them.

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3 hours ago, iasonas said:

 

Well, in a way that supports that cultural issues are not that relevant when it comes to voting in a general election. It's all about socio-economic status. Otherwise the NO areas in Sydney wouldn't be such Labour strongholds since Labour is considered more gay friendly. Also, Tony Abbott's voters obviously do not care about the fact that he's such a bigot even though they overwhelmingly support gay marriage. I guess tax cuts, smaller government, less state intervention, free trade or whatever else Abbott's party stands for are much more important to them.

Tony Abbott was never a typical leader of the Liberal party.  He is deeply religious and a part of the right wing faction of the Liberal party.  It is because of the religious and ultra conservative factions of the Lib party, that we had a postal vote on marriage equality.  Most of the Liberal party and a huge majority of the Labor party wanted marriage equality but our current Liberal party leader and PM Malcolm Turnbull  ( who replaced Abbott as leader ) had to appease the ultra conservative factions of his party. They have more say in politics due to their involvement and numbers in parliament. 

Tony Abbott was an extremely unpopular leader with the General public. The overwhelming majority of Labor voters and areas which were dominated by Labor voters, voted yes.  It was purely for religious reasons that the No votes got up in certain seats in Sydney.  The majority of both Labor and Liberal voters voted yes in every state. Was a great result for marriage equality and gave the government a clear mandate to recognise and implement marriage equality. 

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