Guest Rachelle of London Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I'm sure today's Madonna would definitely choose Don't Stop as a single if BS was just released Secret is so lush and full of contrasting vibes! How come she's never worked with this director ever again? And also, who is Melodie McDaniel, what else has she/he done? Anyone knows? she does a lot of commercials, I remember a newspaper interview with her a few years ago. If I'm not mistaken she hasnt done many music videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangapop Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I'm sure today's Madonna would definitely choose Don't Stop as a single if BS was just released She already has released something similar: GGW Hey, ey, ey, ey Like a girl gone wild A good girl gone wild I'm like, hey, ey, ey, ey Like a girl gone wild A good girl gone wild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vocalism Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 I'm sure today's Madonna would definitely choose Don't Stop as a single if BS was just released Secret is so lush and full of contrasting vibes! How come she's never worked with this director ever again? And also, who is Melodie McDaniel, what else has she/he done? Anyone knows? She also did The Cranberries' "Linger." Both great videos. And similar too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattress Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 Before directing "Secret", Melodie McDaniel photographed Madonna on the set of "Rain" for promotional photos (later used on select "Rain" sleeves and the US, Canada and Japan "I'll Remember" covers) and in 1994 for Vibe magazine: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5iVe Elements Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I was beginning to get hooked with MTV at this time but i wasnt a fan yet. I always saw BS and HN videos. I remember BS freaking me out so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtsanis Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Apparently the woman who is bathing Madonna during the whole "baptism" portion of the video is non other than Mama Elsa from he Real Housewives of Miami. At the time Madonna would speak of a spiritual mother she befriended in Miami, where she was living at the time. And how it was she who was in the video with her. Well that woman is Mama Elsa. This relationship has been referenced casually by Elsa, Andy Cohen, and Elsa's daughter numerous times on WWHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pud Whacker Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 mar I think this has moved up in my all time fav M videos. So perfect and beautiful. marvelous. x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangapop Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Apparently the woman who is bathing Madonna during the whole "baptism" portion of the video is non other than Mama Elsa from he Real Housewives of Miami. At the time Madonna would speak of a spiritual mother she befriended in Miami, where she was living at the time. And how it was she who was in the video with her. Well that woman is Mama Elsa. This relationship has been referenced casually by Elsa, Andy Cohen, and Elsa's daughter numerous times on WWHL. Didn't know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I always loved the remix video: Wasn't there a bunch of footage released from the first version of this video, with different hair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paradise Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 yes! I wanted to say she should have used footage of the different hairstyle cos it looked great! this is one of MANY M classics that get ignored by UK radio. I only ever hear Like a Prayer, Vogue, Hung Up and Borderline. Out of 70 top 10 hits they just replay the same ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acko Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 There's a great chapter/interview on Secret with Melodie McDaniel in Lucy o'Briens 'Like an icon'... Perhaps somebody has a scan of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolidayGuy Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 The album would *not* have sold 6 million in the USA; TAB was a big hit, and the album was at around 1.6m scanned by the time it ran its course. Doesn't the love interest in the video resemble her latest boy toy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck82 Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 I always loved the remix video: Wasn't there a bunch of footage released from the first version of this video, with different hair? Oh yes I'd forgotten about this. Cringe @ the remix though blah! I have never really cared for any of Juniors work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Oh yes I'd forgotten about this. Cringe @ the remix though blah! I have never really cared for any of Juniors work. I used to love the mix, but his work certainly didn't age well. I remember, at the time, speeding up the vocals without changing the pitch was new technology, and MTV News did a short feature on the making of this remix. It was very interesting! I watched it many times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vocalism Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 The album would *not* have sold 6 million in the USA; TAB was a big hit, and the album was at around 1.6m scanned by the time it ran its course. Doesn't the love interest in the video resemble her latest boy toy? I agree. That figure is crazy. I suppose if all four singles were as big as TAB, she could have done that, but that was never a possibility. I do think the album could have sold another 500K or even more if the third and fourth singles had been more radio-friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 My single choices, after Secret, were: Take a Bow Don't Stop (just to liven things up a little between ballads) Forbidden Love I mean, HN and BS had no chance of being hit singles, but I can see why she released them. I can't imagine those 2 videos NOT being part of her library. They are among her best. In fact, all the videos from BS were pretty damn sensational. It was just weird to see the enormous success of TAB followed by the relative flop singles that immediately proceeded it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangapop Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 All BS songs which have been released as singles were the right choices. I wish she has released Sanctuary, Survival and Love Tried To Welcome Me as singles. Is it truth that Forbidden Love was supposed to be the 5th single? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I still love the remix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karbatal Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 BS is such a beautiful video with My single choices, after Secret, were: Take a Bow Don't Stop (just to liven things up a little between ballads) Forbidden Love I mean, HN and BS had no chance of being hit singles, but I can see why she released them. I can't imagine those 2 videos NOT being part of her library. They are among her best. In fact, all the videos from BS were pretty damn sensational. It was just weird to see the enormous success of TAB followed by the relative flop singles that immediately proceeded it. I don't care about commercial success. BS the video and remixes and BAwards performance are mega iconica! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangapop Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I don't care about commercial success. BS the video and remixes and BAwards performance are mega iconica! She looked fantastic at the Brit Awards, like a mermaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnox Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I didn't rate this video when it came out. But over time it has absolutely grown on me. And it's stood the test of time too, both the song and the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vocalism Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 My single choices, after Secret, were: Take a Bow Don't Stop (just to liven things up a little between ballads) Forbidden Love I mean, HN and BS had no chance of being hit singles, but I can see why she released them. I can't imagine those 2 videos NOT being part of her library. They are among her best. In fact, all the videos from BS were pretty damn sensational. It was just weird to see the enormous success of TAB followed by the relative flop singles that immediately proceeded it. BS and HN made complete sense from a creative/artistic standpoint, and I've always said I respected her decision to follow-up TAB with BS - it was a bold move and I think it COULD have worked, but just didn't. I disagree that it had no chance. It's easy to say in retrospect that it had no shot at being a hit, but at the time I remember thinking it did. It was a sort of return to a dance-y Madonna, and she was back on top at that point, so radio could have taken to it. She took a gamble with that one, commercially speaking. But TAB was such a big hit, and was still getting airplay, so releasing "Forbidden Love" or even "Don't Stop" after BS could have worked nicely. Most people might not have even known there was a single released in between. HN is a good song, and I know fans really like the video (not my favorite by a long shot), but it really cut the legs off the album at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 BS is such a beautiful video with I don't care about commercial success. BS the video and remixes and BAwards performance are mega iconica! I don't either. I'm just saying, back then, I did care, and I was coming off the high of 7 weeks at #1 with TAB.. it was a dramatic drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattress Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I was too busy enjoying the video and Pajama Party premiere for "Bedtime Story" to concern myself with its chart success. Can't see any of that shit happening for "Don't Stop". Plus the remixes were so good. You could already get the single on import during the last, looong weeks of "Take A Bow"'s US run so I was already in full on "Bedtime Story" mode before it was even out in the states. Anyway, "Bedtime Story" and "Human Nature" are important singles and videos in Madonna's cannon and it's hard to imagine any other songs from the album replacing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Anyway, "Bedtime Story" and "Human Nature" are important singles and videos in Madonna's cannon and it's hard to imagine any other songs from the album replacing them. Exactly, their chart run and lack of "success" is totally irrelevant. Those two releases are very important in the makeup of her DNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rachelle of London Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Apparently the woman who is bathing Madonna during the whole "baptism" portion of the video is non other than Mama Elsa from he Real Housewives of Miami. At the time Madonna would speak of a spiritual mother she befriended in Miami, where she was living at the time. And how it was she who was in the video with her. Well that woman is Mama Elsa. This relationship has been referenced casually by Elsa, Andy Cohen, and Elsa's daughter numerous times on WWHL. Yup Elsa and Marisol are very good friends with M. They are old family friends of Ingrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolidayGuy Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 A the time, the BS U.S. top 40 miss was disappointing (but understandable), but I'm glad she released what she did- we got two great video clips for it, and the Pajama Party was fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck82 Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 Love the pajama party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabl0114 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 one of my faves....everyone knows BS is my favourite era! Everything was so perfect... I kind of like that it is an underrated era and gem, it just adds to it mystique Yes! My friends and I are having a BS listening party to celebrate its birthday tonight. Wish you could come Chelle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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