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Janet is doing great

I do love Janet and the Discipline album, but don't kid yourself, 388k in three months is dismal, All For You and Damita Jo (which was her first real disappointment) outsold that the first week out.

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Well what do you guys expect? Record sales are at an all time low right now, at least "Discipline" is in the top 200 after almost 4 months on the chart. It could be a lot worse, she could do Donna Summer numbers and only sell 22,000 :lol:, j/k, I love Donna too, but Janet is doing well and "Feedback" was her biggest song in years.

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Well what do you guys expect? Record sales are at an all time low right now, at least "Discipline" is in the top 200 after almost 4 months on the chart. It could be a lot worse, she could do Donna Summer numbers and only sell 22,000 :lol:, j/k, I love Donna too, but Janet is doing well and "Feedback" was her biggest song in years.

That's not saying much, dear.

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Well what do you guys expect? Record sales are at an all time low right now, at least "Discipline" is in the top 200 after almost 4 months on the chart. It could be a lot worse, she could do Donna Summer numbers and only sell 22,000 :lol:, j/k, I love Donna too, but Janet is doing well and "Feedback" was her biggest song in years.

yes album sales are down, but 500k is still attainable. Discipline has only sold about 55% of what 20 Y.O. sold not even a year and a half ago, and 20 Y.O. was regarded as a flop too.

Yea, Janet is doing well stateside compared to Ashlee Simpson and Kylie Minogue, but for a major female artist, sales are way below expectations. Celine and Britney's albums are both referred to as flops yet both are at 900k, and Madonna's already at 500k and Mariah is already closing in on a million. 388k and down to 3000 copies a week is very dismal for someone as well-known as Janet.

You can't even compare Donna or Cyndi's albums with Janet, neither of them have been A-listers for 20 years and they also have far less appeal to the younger ($$$$) market than Janet does. Neither are expected to be like Janet, who is supposed to still be A-list.

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I'd say the major divas look something like this:

1 Mariah Carey

After being down and out with Glitter and Charmbracelet, she managed the most impressive comeback of any artist in quite some time. In the weakest sales era of the past several decades, she still managed the biggest opening of her career. Still, E=MC2 won't reach Emancipation levels.

2 Madonna

She bounced back nicely from American Life and has her biggest radio hit in 8 years right now, and the album has stayed in the top ten for quite some time. That said, it is also barely selling above American Life, and will most likely go down as her second-least successful studio album in terms of sales.

3 Celine Dion

Certainly not doing huge numbers, but she has hung on fairly well and her last album sold a million copies. She's not a radio star like she was in the mid-90s, but then again, she was never quite on the same level as some of the other divas.

4 Janet Jackson

3 strikes and you're out. It seems like every diva was having difficulties in the early 00s, but both Mariah and Madonna bounced back -- Janet didn't, and has seen declining results for her last 3 albums. "Feedback" was a bigger hit than anything from the past two discs but it's clear Janet is no longer a chart force and barring a shocking comeback won't retain her 80s/90s glory.

5 Whitney Houston

Where'd she go? She's been M.I.A. for several years and everything since "My Love is Your Love" has been disappointing. Rumors about a back-in-form comeback have been swirling for some time but they've yet to materialize.

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That's not saying much, dear.

No doubt

It completely bombed globally.. just like anything jackson

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I'd say the major divas look something like this:

1 Mariah Carey

After being down and out with Glitter and Charmbracelet, she managed the most impressive comeback of any artist in quite some time. In the weakest sales era of the past several decades, she still managed the biggest opening of her career. Still, E=MC2 won't reach Emancipation levels.

2 Madonna

She bounced back nicely from American Life and has her biggest radio hit in 8 years right now, and the album has stayed in the top ten for quite some time. That said, it is also barely selling above American Life, and will most likely go down as her second-least successful studio album in terms of sales.

3 Celine Dion

Certainly not doing huge numbers, but she has hung on fairly well and her last album sold a million copies. She's not a radio star like she was in the mid-90s, but then again, she was never quite on the same level as some of the other divas.

4 Janet Jackson

3 strikes and you're out. It seems like every diva was having difficulties in the early 00s, but both Mariah and Madonna bounced back -- Janet didn't, and has seen declining results for her last 3 albums. "Feedback" was a bigger hit than anything from the past two discs but it's clear Janet is no longer a chart force and barring a shocking comeback won't retain her 80s/90s glory.

5 Whitney Houston

Where'd she go? She's been M.I.A. for several years and everything since "My Love is Your Love" has been disappointing. Rumors about a back-in-form comeback have been swirling for some time but they've yet to materialize.

Um. if were talking about the USA like nobody else matter... Mariah won the album sales and Madonna got the bigger single sales wise.

If were talking the planet Madonna won hands down

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Whats up with everyones negativity!

Madonna then Mariah are the global winners.. And I think thats great!

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Please remember to look at the title of the thread.

*US* Chart Talk.

Q4T :)

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Rewind: The Billboard Hot 100 chart exactly 22 years ago.

Billboard Hot 100 Singles Chart - June 7th, 1986:

TW LW WC Title - Artist PP WP Score

1 2 9 LIVE TO TELL Madonna 1 1 100.00 :D :D :D

2 3 12 ON MY OWN Patti Labelle & Michael McDonald 2 1 99.00

3 1 11 GREATEST LOVE OF ALL Whitney Houston 1 3 98.00

4 5 14 I CAN'T WAIT Nu Shooz 4 1 97.00

5 6 12 ALL I NEED IS A MIRACLE Mike & The Mechanics 5 1 96.00

6 4 14 IF YOU LEAVE Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark 4 1 95.00

7 7 17 SOMETHING ABOUT YOU Level 42 7 2 94.00

8 11 9 CRUSH ON YOU Jets 8 1 93.00

9 13 8 THERE'LL BE SAD SONGS (TO MAKE YOU CRY) Billy Ocean 9 1 92.00

10 15 7 A DIFFERENT CORNER George Michael 10 1 91.00

11 9 9 BE GOOD TO YOURSELF Journey 9 1 90.00

12 12 10 MOVE AWAY Culture Club 12 2 89.00

13 8 11 IS IT LOVE Mr. Mister 8 1 88.00

14 19 9 NO ONE IS TO BLAME Howard Jones 14 1 87.00

15 17 8 NOTHIN' AT ALL Heart 15 1 86.00

16 22 10 HOLDING BACK THE YEARS Simply Red 16 1 85.00

17 23 10 I WANNA BE A COWBOY Boyd Don't Cry 17 1 84.00

18 25 7 WHO'S JOHNNY El Debarge 18 1 83.00

19 10 16 WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY Janet Jackson 4 1 82.00

20 14 15 WEST END GIRLS Pet Shop Boys 1 1 81.00

21 16 14 BAD BOY Miami Sound Machine 8 3 80.00

22 26 7 RAIN ON THE SCARECROW John Cougar Mellencamp 22 1 79.00

23 29 7 VIENNA CALLING Falco 23 1 78.00

24 31 8 TUFF ENUFF Fabulous Thunderbirds 24 1 77.00

25 20 17 YOUR LOVE The Outfield 6 2 76.00

26 18 13 TAKE ME HOME Phil Collins 7 3 75.00

27 32 8 YOUR WILDEST DREAMS The Moody Blues 27 1 74.00

28 38 3 LIKE A ROCK Bob Seger 28 1 73.00

29 21 13 WHY CAN'T THIS BE LOVE Van Halen 3 1 72.00

30 33 6 LIKE NO OTHER NIGHT .38 Special 30 1 71.00

31 24 18 ADDICTED TO LOVE Robert Palmer 1 1 70.00

32 39 5 SLEDGEHAMMER Peter Gabriel 32 1 69.00

33 42 4 NASTY Janet Jackson 33 1 68.00

34 43 5 DANGER ZONE Kenny Loggins 34 1 67.00

35 40 5 WHEN THE HEART RULES THE MIND GTR 35 1 66.00

36 37 8 THE LOVE PARADE Dream Academy 36 1 65.00

37 45 2 INVISIBLE TOUCH Genesis 37 1 64.00

38 28 10 ALL THE THINGS SHE SAID Simple Minds 28 1 63.00

39 27 9 MOTHERS TALK Tears For Fears 27 2 62.00

40 44 7 OUT OF MIND OUT OF SIGHT Models 40 1 61.00

41 47 4 ONE HIT (TO THE BODY) The Rolling Stones 41 1 60.00

42 46 5 IF SHE KNEW WHAT SHE WANTS Bangles 42 1 59.00

43 48 3 DREAMS Van Halen 43 1 58.00

44 49 3 MOUNTAINS Prince & The Revolution 44 1 57.00

45 50 6 DIGGING YOUR SCENE Blow Monkeys 45 1 56.00

46 54 2 LOVE TOUCH Rod Stewart 46 1 55.00

47 30 10 TOMORROW DOESN'T MATTER TONIGHT Starship 26 1 54.00

48 41 9 PRETTY IN PINK Psychedelic Furs 41 1 53.00

49 59 4 MAD ABOUT YOU Belinda Carlisle 49 1 52.00

50 61 4 THE FINEST The S.O.S. Band 50 1 51.00

51 65 2 OPPORTUNITIES (LET'S MAKE LOTS OF MONEY) Pet Shop Boys 51 1 50.00

52 56 6 I MUST BE DREAMING Giuffria 52 1 49.00

53 36 16 KISS Prince & The Revolution 1 2 48.00

54 — 1 MODERN WOMAN Billy Joel 54 1 47.00

55 64 3 SECRET SEPARATION The Fixx 55 1 46.00

56 57 5 LISTEN LIKE THIEVES INXS 56 1 45.00

57 58 5 DON QUICHOTTE Magazine 60 57 1 44.00

58 35 11 ROUGH BOY ZZ Top 22 1 43.00

59 34 11 NEVER AS GOOD AS THE FIRST TIME Sade 20 1 42.00

60 60 4 HAS ANYONE EVER WRITTEN ANYTHING FOR YOU Stevie Nicks 60 2 41.00

61 68 4 WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE OUR CLOTHES OFF Jermaine Stewart 61 1 40.00

62 — 1 GLORY OF LOVE Peter Cetera 62 1 39.00

63 67 5 LIVING ON VIDEO Trans X 63 1 38.00

64 69 3 YOU SHOULD BE MINE (THE WOO WOO SONG) Jeffrey Osborne 64 1 37.00

65 51 10 WHERE DO THE CHILDREN GO Hooters 38 1 36.00

66 55 6 THE HEAT OF HEAT Patti Austin 55 1 35.00

67 75 4 PETER GUNN Art of Noise feat. Duane Eddy 67 1 34.00

68 76 3 HEADED FOR THE FUTURE Neil Diamond 68 1 33.00

69 74 3 ONE STEP CLOSER TO YOU Gavin Christopher 69 1 32.00

70 70 7 SAY IT, SAY IT E.G. Daily 70 3 31.00

71 72 4 FIRE WITH FIRE Wild Blue 71 1 30.00

72 62 8 IF YOUR HEART ISN'T IN IT Atlantic Starr 57 1 29.00

73 52 13 AMERICAN STORM Bob Seger 13 1 28.00

74 85 2 TAKE IT EASY Andy Taylor 74 1 27.00

75 66 24 LET'S GO ALL THE WAY Sly Fox 7 2 26.00

76 — 1 ALL THE LOVE IN THE WORLD Outfield 76 1 25.00

77 71 9 CHAIN REACTION Diana Ross 66 1 24.00

78 82 3 FEMALE INTUITION Mai Tai 78 1 23.00

79 83 3 DIVIDED HEARTS Kim Carnes 79 1 22.00

80 — 1 HYPERACTIVE Robert Palmer 80 1 21.00

81 63 20 MANIC MONDAY Bangles 2 1 20.00

82 53 13 HARLEM SHUFFLE The Rolling Stones 5 1 19.00

83 73 12 STICK AROUND Julian Lennon 32 1 18.00

84 78 9 MUTUAL SURRENDER (WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD) Bourgeois Tagg 62 1 17.00

85 — 1 SCHOOL'S OUT Krokus 85 1 16.00

86 — 1 ONE WAY LOVE TKA 86 1 15.00

87 96 2 I STILL WANT YOU Del Fuegos 87 1 14.00

88 — 1 JUNGLE BOY John Eddie 88 1 13.00

89 77 7 LEAD A DOUBLE LIFE Loverboy 68 2 12.00

90 87 12 RESTLESS Starpoint 46 2 11.00

91 80 14 FEEL IT AGAIN Honeymoon Suite 34 1 10.00

92 84 4 I WANT YOU Animotion 84 1 9.00

93 81 19 TENDER LOVE Force MD's 10 2 8.00

94 — 1 STAY TRUE Sly Fox 94 1 7.00

95 — 1 IN THE SHAPE OF THE HEART Jackson Browne 95 1 6.00

96 79 13 RIGHT BETWEEN THE EYES Wax 43 2 5.00

97 91 4 VANITY KILLS ABC 91 2 4.00

98 89 17 SATURDAY LOVE Cherrelle with Alexander O'Neal 26 2 3.00

99 92 7 INNOCENT EYES Graham Nash 84 1 2.00

100 94 2 KAREN B.E. Taylor Group 94 1 1.00

Drop outs

86 20 WHAT YOU NEED INXS

88 17 ROCK ME AMADEUS Falco

90 7 UNDER THE INFLUENCE Vanity

93 23 SECRET LOVERS Atlantic Starr

95 14 SO FAR AWAY Dire Straits

97 20 THESE DREAMS Heart

98 15 A LITTLE BIT OF LOVE (IS ALL IT TAKES) New Edition

99 8 HANDS ACROSS AMERICA Voices of America

100 15 I THINK IT'S LOVE Jermaine Jackson

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Rewind: The Billboard Hot 100 chart exactly 22 years ago.

Billboard Hot 100 Singles Chart - June 7th, 1986:

TW LW WC Title - Artist PP WP Score

1 2 9 LIVE TO TELL Madonna 1 1 100.00 :D :D :D

2 3 12 ON MY OWN Patti Labelle & Michael McDonald 2 1 99.00

3 1 11 GREATEST LOVE OF ALL Whitney Houston 1 3 98.00

19 10 16 WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY Janet Jackson 4 1 82.00

33 42 4 NASTY Janet Jackson 33 1 68.00

:thumbsup: Back when music was actually good....

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So Madonna could very well spend another week in the top 10 or close to it. :clap: Can we stop freakin out about its sales now? :lol: Its doing really well. Sure it didnt get the MEGA HUGE opening that alot of us predicted including myself but its holding on really well. I think that would have to do with the album having good word of mouth at this point since 4 Minutes has reached its impact peak and there is no promo going on right now.

Maybe 5 weeks in the top 10? What a backlash!!!!

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Rewind: The Billboard Hot 100 chart exactly 22 years ago.

Billboard Hot 100 Singles Chart - June 7th, 1986:

TW LW WC Title - Artist PP WP Score

1 2 9 LIVE TO TELL Madonna 1 1 100.00 :D :D :D

2 3 12 ON MY OWN Patti Labelle & Michael McDonald 2 1 99.00

3 1 11 GREATEST LOVE OF ALL Whitney Houston 1 3 98.00

4 5 14 I CAN'T WAIT Nu Shooz 4 1 97.00

5 6 12 ALL I NEED IS A MIRACLE Mike & The Mechanics 5 1 96.00

6 4 14 IF YOU LEAVE Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark 4 1 95.00

7 7 17 SOMETHING ABOUT YOU Level 42 7 2 94.00

8 11 9 CRUSH ON YOU Jets 8 1 93.00

9 13 8 THERE'LL BE SAD SONGS (TO MAKE YOU CRY) Billy Ocean 9 1 92.00

10 15 7 A DIFFERENT CORNER George Michael 10 1 91.00

11 9 9 BE GOOD TO YOURSELF Journey 9 1 90.00

12 12 10 MOVE AWAY Culture Club 12 2 89.00

13 8 11 IS IT LOVE Mr. Mister 8 1 88.00

14 19 9 NO ONE IS TO BLAME Howard Jones 14 1 87.00

15 17 8 NOTHIN' AT ALL Heart 15 1 86.00

16 22 10 HOLDING BACK THE YEARS Simply Red 16 1 85.00

17 23 10 I WANNA BE A COWBOY Boyd Don't Cry 17 1 84.00

18 25 7 WHO'S JOHNNY El Debarge 18 1 83.00

19 10 16 WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY Janet Jackson 4 1 82.00

20 14 15 WEST END GIRLS Pet Shop Boys 1 1 81.00

21 16 14 BAD BOY Miami Sound Machine 8 3 80.00

22 26 7 RAIN ON THE SCARECROW John Cougar Mellencamp 22 1 79.00

23 29 7 VIENNA CALLING Falco 23 1 78.00

24 31 8 TUFF ENUFF Fabulous Thunderbirds 24 1 77.00

25 20 17 YOUR LOVE The Outfield 6 2 76.00

26 18 13 TAKE ME HOME Phil Collins 7 3 75.00

27 32 8 YOUR WILDEST DREAMS The Moody Blues 27 1 74.00

28 38 3 LIKE A ROCK Bob Seger 28 1 73.00

29 21 13 WHY CAN'T THIS BE LOVE Van Halen 3 1 72.00

30 33 6 LIKE NO OTHER NIGHT .38 Special 30 1 71.00

31 24 18 ADDICTED TO LOVE Robert Palmer 1 1 70.00

32 39 5 SLEDGEHAMMER Peter Gabriel 32 1 69.00

33 42 4 NASTY Janet Jackson 33 1 68.00

34 43 5 DANGER ZONE Kenny Loggins 34 1 67.00

35 40 5 WHEN THE HEART RULES THE MIND GTR 35 1 66.00

36 37 8 THE LOVE PARADE Dream Academy 36 1 65.00

37 45 2 INVISIBLE TOUCH Genesis 37 1 64.00

38 28 10 ALL THE THINGS SHE SAID Simple Minds 28 1 63.00

39 27 9 MOTHERS TALK Tears For Fears 27 2 62.00

40 44 7 OUT OF MIND OUT OF SIGHT Models 40 1 61.00

41 47 4 ONE HIT (TO THE BODY) The Rolling Stones 41 1 60.00

42 46 5 IF SHE KNEW WHAT SHE WANTS Bangles 42 1 59.00

43 48 3 DREAMS Van Halen 43 1 58.00

44 49 3 MOUNTAINS Prince & The Revolution 44 1 57.00

45 50 6 DIGGING YOUR SCENE Blow Monkeys 45 1 56.00

46 54 2 LOVE TOUCH Rod Stewart 46 1 55.00

47 30 10 TOMORROW DOESN'T MATTER TONIGHT Starship 26 1 54.00

48 41 9 PRETTY IN PINK Psychedelic Furs 41 1 53.00

49 59 4 MAD ABOUT YOU Belinda Carlisle 49 1 52.00

50 61 4 THE FINEST The S.O.S. Band 50 1 51.00

51 65 2 OPPORTUNITIES (LET'S MAKE LOTS OF MONEY) Pet Shop Boys 51 1 50.00

52 56 6 I MUST BE DREAMING Giuffria 52 1 49.00

53 36 16 KISS Prince & The Revolution 1 2 48.00

54 — 1 MODERN WOMAN Billy Joel 54 1 47.00

55 64 3 SECRET SEPARATION The Fixx 55 1 46.00

56 57 5 LISTEN LIKE THIEVES INXS 56 1 45.00

57 58 5 DON QUICHOTTE Magazine 60 57 1 44.00

58 35 11 ROUGH BOY ZZ Top 22 1 43.00

59 34 11 NEVER AS GOOD AS THE FIRST TIME Sade 20 1 42.00

60 60 4 HAS ANYONE EVER WRITTEN ANYTHING FOR YOU Stevie Nicks 60 2 41.00

61 68 4 WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE OUR CLOTHES OFF Jermaine Stewart 61 1 40.00

62 — 1 GLORY OF LOVE Peter Cetera 62 1 39.00

63 67 5 LIVING ON VIDEO Trans X 63 1 38.00

64 69 3 YOU SHOULD BE MINE (THE WOO WOO SONG) Jeffrey Osborne 64 1 37.00

65 51 10 WHERE DO THE CHILDREN GO Hooters 38 1 36.00

66 55 6 THE HEAT OF HEAT Patti Austin 55 1 35.00

67 75 4 PETER GUNN Art of Noise feat. Duane Eddy 67 1 34.00

68 76 3 HEADED FOR THE FUTURE Neil Diamond 68 1 33.00

69 74 3 ONE STEP CLOSER TO YOU Gavin Christopher 69 1 32.00

70 70 7 SAY IT, SAY IT E.G. Daily 70 3 31.00

71 72 4 FIRE WITH FIRE Wild Blue 71 1 30.00

72 62 8 IF YOUR HEART ISN'T IN IT Atlantic Starr 57 1 29.00

73 52 13 AMERICAN STORM Bob Seger 13 1 28.00

74 85 2 TAKE IT EASY Andy Taylor 74 1 27.00

75 66 24 LET'S GO ALL THE WAY Sly Fox 7 2 26.00

76 — 1 ALL THE LOVE IN THE WORLD Outfield 76 1 25.00

77 71 9 CHAIN REACTION Diana Ross 66 1 24.00

78 82 3 FEMALE INTUITION Mai Tai 78 1 23.00

79 83 3 DIVIDED HEARTS Kim Carnes 79 1 22.00

80 — 1 HYPERACTIVE Robert Palmer 80 1 21.00

81 63 20 MANIC MONDAY Bangles 2 1 20.00

82 53 13 HARLEM SHUFFLE The Rolling Stones 5 1 19.00

83 73 12 STICK AROUND Julian Lennon 32 1 18.00

84 78 9 MUTUAL SURRENDER (WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD) Bourgeois Tagg 62 1 17.00

85 — 1 SCHOOL'S OUT Krokus 85 1 16.00

86 — 1 ONE WAY LOVE TKA 86 1 15.00

87 96 2 I STILL WANT YOU Del Fuegos 87 1 14.00

88 — 1 JUNGLE BOY John Eddie 88 1 13.00

89 77 7 LEAD A DOUBLE LIFE Loverboy 68 2 12.00

90 87 12 RESTLESS Starpoint 46 2 11.00

91 80 14 FEEL IT AGAIN Honeymoon Suite 34 1 10.00

92 84 4 I WANT YOU Animotion 84 1 9.00

93 81 19 TENDER LOVE Force MD's 10 2 8.00

94 — 1 STAY TRUE Sly Fox 94 1 7.00

95 — 1 IN THE SHAPE OF THE HEART Jackson Browne 95 1 6.00

96 79 13 RIGHT BETWEEN THE EYES Wax 43 2 5.00

97 91 4 VANITY KILLS ABC 91 2 4.00

98 89 17 SATURDAY LOVE Cherrelle with Alexander O'Neal 26 2 3.00

99 92 7 INNOCENT EYES Graham Nash 84 1 2.00

100 94 2 KAREN B.E. Taylor Group 94 1 1.00

Drop outs

86 20 WHAT YOU NEED INXS

88 17 ROCK ME AMADEUS Falco

90 7 UNDER THE INFLUENCE Vanity

93 23 SECRET LOVERS Atlantic Starr

95 14 SO FAR AWAY Dire Straits

97 20 THESE DREAMS Heart

98 15 A LITTLE BIT OF LOVE (IS ALL IT TAKES) New Edition

99 8 HANDS ACROSS AMERICA Voices of America

100 15 I THINK IT'S LOVE Jermaine Jackson

:thumbsup: What a healthy varied music list with a maximum of international acts ! Inxs, Silply red, culture club , Falco, Phil Collins, simple Minds, Culture Clubs

When we compare this with the currents charts , I have an uneasy feeling ; like the continuation of more than 15 yerars domination of Urban unhealthy black acts :thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

look at what some local lobbying has done to music, radio and tv in the us ... pathetic :confused:

Bring me back the 80's :thumbsup:

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why this song was never wildly nominated for grammys and the oscar is bewildering...

lyrically, it's intense and personal... musically, it's sthg madonna has done very differently at that time

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Janet is doing great

No,she isn't :) 'Discipline' is officially her *THIRD* flop album in a row.Her biggest problem is that she keeps repeating the same mistake over and over.....releasing similiar-sounding albums,even though the previous one(s) failed.By now,she should realize that the public just isn't interested in what she's offering.At least with Madonna,we get a different-sounding album each time.

If Janet does this same routine again (releasing a run-of-the-mill R&B album),she will see the same results.

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I'd say the major divas look something like this:

1 Mariah Carey

After being down and out with Glitter and Charmbracelet, she managed the most impressive comeback of any artist in quite some time. In the weakest sales era of the past several decades, she still managed the biggest opening of her career. Still, E=MC2 won't reach Emancipation levels.

2 Madonna

She bounced back nicely from American Life and has her biggest radio hit in 8 years right now, and the album has stayed in the top ten for quite some time. That said, it is also barely selling above American Life, and will most likely go down as her second-least successful studio album in terms of sales.

3 Celine Dion

Certainly not doing huge numbers, but she has hung on fairly well and her last album sold a million copies. She's not a radio star like she was in the mid-90s, but then again, she was never quite on the same level as some of the other divas.

4 Janet Jackson

3 strikes and you're out. It seems like every diva was having difficulties in the early 00s, but both Mariah and Madonna bounced back -- Janet didn't, and has seen declining results for her last 3 albums. "Feedback" was a bigger hit than anything from the past two discs but it's clear Janet is no longer a chart force and barring a shocking comeback won't retain her 80s/90s glory.

5 Whitney Houston

Where'd she go? She's been M.I.A. for several years and everything since "My Love is Your Love" has been disappointing. Rumors about a back-in-form comeback have been swirling for some time but they've yet to materialize.

I diagree with the order. Janet should be last on the list and it's all her fault. She didn't do anything to protect her lagacy after the super bowl fiasco and let others screw with her career and her music. She doesn't seem to care and pretty much behaves like retarded at all her public appearances and interviews.

Whithey we can't categorize her just yet. After My Love Is Your Love she had only one unsuccessfull record (that was her first and only flop) and she is a legend even if she doesn't release any more records. What would make or break her is the success or not of a new record - not her personal life. For the time being she's better off without a new CD.

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