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55 minutes ago, MadFan said:
Elizabeth I is still clearly the more historical Elizabeth and the Elizabethan era will continue to refer solely to her. Seriously until Diana showed up there was no story to tell about this reign.
well...and after andrew´s sex life got public. And her sister was quite scandalous too (both elizabethg´s and Andrews) back in the day
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2 hours ago, karbatal said:
No king or queen is in history books after parliamentary society was established. They can be named but since XX century history is explained through presidents and prime ministers. Nobody will explain Brexit naming this woman just like nobody will explain the 2008 economic crisis in Spain naming the King.
actually, the historic periods are a lot of times defined by symbolic actions more than other thing. I´m thinking for example about taking the Bastille (in that moment they din´t finish with the absolutism, the monarchy...but it´s what we use to start the contemporay era). So it wouldn´t surprise me if they use queen dying as the beginning /end of something
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40 minutes ago, mtzlplk said:
Or it could be that some people just doesn't have the decency to celebrate someone's life who just passed because they lived miserably all their lives and want others just be miserable as well... It is basic human decency to celebrate the life of the dead, especially of someone like Queen Elizabeth... Fairy tales is not even part of it...
of course, I think nobody here would be in front of her family laughing at her or complaining about her figure or job. But in a forum not related to them...
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22 minutes ago, Crystal Coffin said:
The Windsors had German blood, so it's understandable why Germans love or hold them in high regard
I wish they have used a crystal coffin!!!!!! the ratings would have been over the roof!
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3 hours ago, karbatal said:
Most people revere those families because they feel the glorious past that is long gone and doesn’t fill your shopping cart or warm your house. All royal families are fossils that not even fulfill that idea of diplomacy services. Nowadays they represent oppression for ex colonies and are laughed at by dictators (which are the ones causing turmoil that needs diplomacy). They are now racists and classists characters of tabloids and society pages. But of course in a world where Elon Musk is applauded by red necks and blue collars they still have psychophants followers.
again, even if I agree with you in a lot of the things you say, people love the characters on the tabloids. If only there was one openly gay...although what I really want is Harry´s pictures naked when he went to Vegas with his friends before he met megan and got full drunk
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16 hours ago, Raider of the lost Ark said:
Just came home from work and I am now watching a little bit of it. I must admit Kate looked absolutely stunning.
I disagree: the clothes that oth kate and Megan chose were to "close to their bodies", I don´t know how to say it.It was a funeral, not Ascot.
By the way, I don´t know if it´s real or not, but some people say that the long candle hiding Megan´s face from the camera angle was planned...
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16 hours ago, Confessit said:
63% of the worlds population watched today’s ceremony.
Not bad for someone so divisive in popularity.
ok, I watched it for the choreography and the music, and always expecting somebody was going to do something out of place (after all, the spaniard old king was there, and that´s what I expect from him
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I don´´t know how many people were watching the ceremony, but we all have dofferent reasons to do it. not the love of Elizabeth II
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13 hours ago, karbatal said:
Well for some people I guess they get some warm feeling with that idea. Maybe ultra Catholics felt the same when the Pope died.
actually, I´m not an ultra catholic and I loved when he died, all the clothes and the rituals, people screaming when that old man with obvious problems appeard on the balcony and we thought he was the next pope...and I don´t give a shit about the pope, but it was nice to see all those things out of the normal world. Same with this gipsy funeral
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3 minutes ago, Crystal Coffin said:
The Windsors had German blood, so it's understandable why Germans love or hold them in high regard
and they had to change their name because of the anti german feelings a century ago in the UK! now, that´s what I call a family crisis! and not a black woman marrfying somebody that is not even the next monarch
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12 hours ago, ULIZOS said:
you're right. It's like keeping up with the Kardashians, but with inbreeding, pedophilia, blood diamonds and a whole lot more dysfunctional.
I'm team Meghan. I know nothing about her, but everyone hates her so I'm sure that's good.
yes! right now she is the paria of the series, so I like her. And with anna is the same, they always forget about her, but who was by her mom when she was already dead? anna.
and don´t forget the clothes and the choreographies that they have: people love that.That´s why I think they will continue without problems, at least a few kings more.
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7 minutes ago, karbatal said:
I’m 100% sure that people in the future will not understand how populations coped with royal families.
I disagree: it´s like a soap opera, a telenovela with real people. You see them all your life, and you relate to one of a few of them, and you finally finish liking them. and I´m afraid that it´s not going to happen.
Right now I´m on team princess Ana.
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they put the spanish old king between the old queen and the new one!
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1 hour ago, karbatal said:
So today she’s buried? This seems a lifetime.
yes, in a couple of hours! and everybody is going to be there! there should have invited Putin too, and the korean one, and the one from venezuela...the funeral with a thousand stars! I wonder what the security people are thinking at this moment.Because everybody is there, even the former king of spain, the whore lover-money keeper
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2 hours ago, sotos8 said:
is it true she didn't recognise Madonna at the premiere of DAD ?
I don´t think so, but who knows. Cher said that she knew all the people in the queue, so...
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so australia had a referendum and people that wanted the queen to continue were more than the ones that wanted her out. I guess a lot of people thought that is not the same to have the queen because they have bought for her, than have the queen because their family colonised that part of the world.
The results don´t surprise me, after all, most of the voters are from european families...they even sing in eurovision!!!!
anyways, I wish we had the opportunity to have a referendum.I´m sure the monarchy would continue, but at least because people have decided that, not because Franco decided that.
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jesus! I´m having to much royalty from everywhere, I have even dreamed of them tonight! I went With the duque of edinburg to a brothell that was also a restaurant for regular families and a soccer arena!
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I don´t dislike Kate, but I find Megan more beautiful, and I like the way she moves...I don´t know. And, anyways, about the jewels, I bet she wasn´t expecting any.I´m sure Harry Spencer family has something beautiful for her from Diana
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1 minute ago, lex92 said:
You can conserve a body for weeks.
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8 hours ago, Flip The Switch said:
Meghan has no class.
I don´t know about class and these things...but I like her more than Kate
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is the queen really in the coffin? I mean, after so many days...
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Haaaaaaarrrrrry, how come you love that black woman, instead of loving normal things, like underage girls!
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17 hours ago, elijah said:
Dear, I am watching this doco:
I always knew about Franco, but never really saw such an indepth doco about him. I am amazed that Spain was a full fleged dictatorship until 1975 (and Portugal and Greece until 1973). I m shocked that he managed to rule for so many years in the very heart of Europe unbothered, killing hundred thousands after being a Hitler and Musolini friend! I didnt know they directly help him and he directly helped them back in WW2...
the USA didn´t care about the dictatorships and fascism as long as they stopped comunism.Yes, spain was a dictatorship when franco died in 1975, and then they decided to change some things to make the system more similar to the ones in Europe.But nobody paid for anything.
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11 hours ago, funkydita said:
*rises from the crypt*
There’s a difference between the Welsh and the Welsh Welsh i.e Welsh language speakers (like me!) from pockets of Wales deeply connected to Welsh culture and we’re certainly not pro-monarchy or enamoured by the notion of having an English Prince / Princess of Wales. I mean, we used to put stamps on upside down and burn holiday cottages
Here in the Basque Country we used, (well, we still do it) paint with a marker parts of the clothes that we like but has red and yellow together. These two colour are not supposed to be together!
And we don´t do that with the stamps, but it´s not a bad idea...we try to avoid the word España: el estado, piel de toro...anything but españa.
Funny how all the places have similar problems
Energy bills. What are you gonna do?
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but overall it was 101 euros yesterday, right? anyways, it´s so difficult to control the prices by hour, I mean, we need the energy when we need it.But all europe should be using renewables, if they are really so cheap and good for the environment.