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to risk your life just to be respected as a human being. That´s a hero
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this is so sad. I mean, I have always think of her as a really cool inteligent sensitive person, and suddenly she is so cunty with this topic. By the way, it happens to a lot of feminists, and I don´t get why.
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I love owen jones: and he is getting really hot lately!
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when I see these news I feel that brexit was a good idea for the rest of europe. Of course, the rest of countries are full of shit too
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25 minutes ago, karbatal said:
And rulers of that party go to mass when it’s the anniversary of the dictator’s death.Â
yes!!!!! and they sing the anthem with the non democratic lyrics
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17 hours ago, karbatal said:
ÂImagine if our conservative had power in the EU? They are twins of the Tories. I prefer that the Comission takes our ideas when they are good but stop us when dummies get the power.
the spanish conservative party is even worse, because, unlike the conservatives in other countries, it was created by a minister of a fascist dictatorship.
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1 hour ago, elijah said:
In the end Spain turned out great. I m still shocked Spain was full fledged dictatorship in the 70ties, but the end result is what matters. You managed to deal with separatists, have a nice economy and most of the world have to envy you for the medical sector. Spain should definitely join the Franco-german engine and lead the way! Not to mention how UNDERRATED Madrid is! Its one of the best cities I ve ever visited!
Madrid is a great city to visit, I don´t know why is not as famous as others.
and about everything turning out ok after franco´s 40 years dictatorship...it could have been worse, of course, but the situation is not as positive as you say in your post. The economy is based in turism-good weather, the unemployed in young people is scandalous, the public medical sector is suffering a lot because the right winged political parties are helping the private ´s more, same with the schools.the monarchy is only loved for the right winged too, and even tough it doesn´t appear on the news, there are a lot of people both in catalonia and basque country that are not happy being in spain...and again, it could have been way worse after franco, that´s for sure.
one of the saddest thing is that new new system was built starting with franco´s system, so most of the people that fought against him, the old government etc., were forgotten.
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1 hour ago, karbatal said:
Oh I hope our inner tensions do not ever happen in the EU. We’ve got 3 civil wars and one terrorist separatist group
a few separatists groups, a few government related terrotist groups too... a fiesta
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Well, I´m sure they have fear of doing it, but at least they can see that they are not alone
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50 minutes ago, karbatal said:
Actually the demise of Britain started since they turned their back to Madonna.Â
and the demise of Italy since rafaella passed away!
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so what´s happening with the North stream pipelines now? a sabotage?
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The only thing that I have seen from her, so far, is that she is Italian, Christian, and a mother. With these three points, she can do anything and wouldn´t surprise me.Â
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but overall it was 101 euros yesterday, right? anyways, it´s so difficult to control the prices by hour, I mean, we need the energy when we need it.But all europe should be using renewables, if they are really so cheap and good for the environment.
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55 minutes ago, MadFan said:
Elizabeth I is still clearly the more historical Elizabeth and the Elizabethan era will continue to refer solely to her. Seriously until Diana showed up there was no story to tell about this reign.
well...and after andrew´s sex life got public. And her sister was quite scandalous too (both elizabethg´s and Andrews) back in the day
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2 hours ago, karbatal said:
No king or queen is in history books after parliamentary society was established. They can be named but since XX century history is explained through presidents and prime ministers. Nobody will explain Brexit naming this woman just like nobody will explain the 2008 economic crisis in Spain naming the King.Â
actually, the historic periods are a lot of times defined by symbolic actions more than other thing. I´m thinking for example about taking the Bastille (in that moment they din´t finish with the absolutism, the monarchy...but it´s what we use to start the contemporay era). So it wouldn´t surprise me if they use queen dying as the beginning /end of something
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40 minutes ago, mtzlplk said:
Or it could be that some people just doesn't have the decency to celebrate someone's life who just passed because they lived miserably all their lives and want others just be miserable as well... It is basic human decency to celebrate the life of the dead, especially of someone like Queen Elizabeth... Fairy tales is not even part of it...Â
of course, I think nobody here would be in front of her family laughing at her or complaining about her figure or job. But in a forum not related to them...
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22 minutes ago, Crystal Coffin said:
The Windsors had German blood, so it's understandable why Germans love or hold them in high regard
I wish they have used a crystal coffin!!!!!! the ratings would have been over the roof!
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3 hours ago, karbatal said:
Most people revere those families because they feel the glorious past that is long gone and doesn’t fill your shopping cart or warm your house. All royal families are fossils that not even fulfill that idea of diplomacy services. Nowadays they represent oppression for ex colonies and are laughed at by dictators (which are the ones causing turmoil that needs diplomacy). They are now racists and classists characters of tabloids and society pages. But of course in a world where Elon Musk is applauded by red necks and blue collars they still have psychophants followers.
again, even if I agree with you in a lot of the things you say, people love the characters on the tabloids. If only there was one openly gay...although what I really want is Harry´s pictures naked when he went to Vegas with his friends before he met megan and got full drunk
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16 hours ago, Raider of the lost Ark said:
Just came home from work and I am now watching a little bit of it. I must admit Kate looked absolutely stunning.Â
I disagree: the clothes that oth kate and Megan chose were to "close to their bodies", I don´t know how to say it.It was a funeral, not Ascot.
By the way, I don´t know if it´s real or not, but some people say that the long candle hiding Megan´s face from the camera angle was planned...
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16 hours ago, Confessit said:
63% of the worlds population watched today’s ceremony.Â
ÂNot bad for someone so divisive in popularity.
ok, I watched it for the choreography and the music, and always expecting somebody was going to do something out of place (after all, the spaniard old king was there, and that´s what I expect from him
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I don´´t know how many people were watching the ceremony, but we all have dofferent reasons to do it. not the love of Elizabeth II
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13 hours ago, karbatal said:
Well for some people I guess they get some warm feeling with that idea. Maybe ultra Catholics felt the same when the Pope died.
actually, I´m not an ultra catholic and I loved when he died, all the clothes and the rituals, people screaming when that old man with obvious problems appeard on the balcony and we thought he was the next pope...and I don´t give a shit about the pope, but it was nice to see all those things out of the normal world. Same with this gipsy funeral
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3 minutes ago, Crystal Coffin said:
The Windsors had German blood, so it's understandable why Germans love or hold them in high regard
and they had to change their name because of the anti german feelings a century ago in the UK! now, that´s what I call a family crisis! and not a black woman marrfying somebody that is not even the next monarch
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12 hours ago, ULIZOS said:
 you're right. It's like keeping up with the Kardashians, but with inbreeding, pedophilia, blood diamonds and a whole lot more dysfunctional.Â
I'm team Meghan. I know nothing about her, but everyone hates her so I'm sure that's good.Â
yes! right now she is the paria of the series, so I like her. And with anna is the same, they always forget about her, but who was by her mom when she was already dead? anna.
and don´t forget the clothes and the choreographies that they have: people love that.That´s why I think they will continue without problems, at least a few kings more.
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7 minutes ago, karbatal said:
I’m 100% sure that people in the future will not understand how populations coped with royal families.
I disagree: it´s like a soap opera, a telenovela with real people. You see them all your life, and you relate to one of a few of them, and you finally finish liking them. and I´m afraid that it´s not going to happen.
Right now I´m on team princess Ana.
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