jonski43
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^I'd say fan favourites like "Drowned World" or "Get Together" instead of huge but forgotten hits like "This Used To Be My Playground" or "American Pie".
I always thought that the "for the fans" concept was possible, because this GH is not going to sell that much, no matter what, but if it's new stuff for the fans instead of TIC rehash, at least they are going to buy it. And remember Guy Oseary asked for tracklist suggestions on Twitter, if they really wanted to include her biggest 30 hits, they could have just looked at her US or UK chart history...
That means jack. They did a poll to ask for the third single off Music - Impressive Instant won. We got WIFLFAG. We wanted Nothing Fails, the radio stations were playing Nothing Fails, we got Hollywood then Love Profusion then a lame ass release way too late. We wanted Jump, we got is the fourth single. We wanted Beat Goes On, the radio stations were playing Beat Goes On. We got Miles Away.
They release whatever they want and can say it's what we want as how can we counter it?
We will get what we get and then we can all come back here and analyse it to death for the next 18 months.
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All my friends that are adopted, are adopted from poorer countries, and most of them were adopted while having biological relatives and even parents alive. According to your logic though, they should have stayed with relatives that wouldn't be able to provide a real future for them, future with opportunities like someone more fortuned would have, and i'm not even talking about a life in luxury, just things that we in the "fortuned part of the world" take for granted even.
And yes, what you said IS ignorant, because basically what you're saying is that those people (including my friends), should have been better off staying in their poor countries and that it was wrong that they were adopted, just because they were taken from "another culture" or whatever... just like small kids have got so much culture in the first place? Please! It's a known fact that culture, religion etc. comes with age. That's what makes kids so special, because up to a certain age they don't really have those type of things really because they actually doesn't really understand it. That's why small kids in some ways are actually "smarter" than grown ups because they are too young to be thinking in that kind of narrow-minded way, that older kids and adults do, therefor they won't have this "massive culture chock" you talk about. There is a phenomenon called "culture chock" for sure, but not really in this case.
I don't know you, you might not be ignorant, but THAT comment was ignorant and I will not change my opinion on that. It's so easy being so smart when growing up in a place that's more fortuned than others. When some people are struggling for the simplest things, things many of us take for granted, I think culture is not the most important issue. To even come up with that as an argument in this case is silly.
For a start, stop trashing me - you were stating in another post how great it was the moderators were taking the haters to task yet here you are trashing people and saying they are ignorant when they have put a calm, informed opinion together.
You might not agree with me but I have not gone out and trashed Kaballah and gone on a rant about colonialisation. My point was that Madonna could have provided them all a future and their families but you've just skipped that bit. Mercy's mother was intending on being a doctor and the whole village were going to support her. People do have futures in these countries but you seem to have given up on these places and assume the children are better off elsewhere. Raising Malawi is all about giving these people a future and helping the country to develop.
As for young children not being aware of culture shock, you clearly don't know any young children and how they have a need for routine. Any good parent can tell you that and how the slightest change can upset them and leave them disoriented. All those familiar faces and surroundings the children knew for the first few years of their lives will disappear and they will be thrown into a world unknown to them with complete strangers.
And once again your friends were not adopted by one of the most famous people on the planet under constant scrutiny!
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This is a 10 day old quote from Stereomover, haven't seen this posted here:
William is just updating some of his mixes for WB.
The upcoming GH is aimed at fans.
The songs on the comp are not necessarily full-on commercial hits, but fan favorites.
The commercial hits are what TIC and GHV2 are for.
This compilation is so much more.
Mirwais and a couple of her other collaborators (along with some new ones) are also involved.
I can't wait to see what comes of it.
More details to come.
Interesting but when they say a compilation for the fans, I don't necessarily believe that as the fans have asked for singles and just been given other releases instead. It sounds like PR speak for "Madonna's decided to remix some of her old songs but not all of them were hits so we will call them fans' favourites instead."
Fortunately, I pretty much like everything she has ever done so I expect I will like most of it. I just don't like the lame PR that is so often not true. Also, I like the idea of the old producers coming back and tweaking their songs to improve them rather than radical overhauls.
I'm really looking forward to this release now.
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I love Lament from the Re-Invention Tour. A shame this whole concert never saw it's way to DVD. I still love Madonna's voice, overall. She was never Celine/Mariah/Whitney level vocals, but she's always had a nice, clear, recognizable. It can get nasally but that happens to a lot of people.
Thank God. They just shout their way through their songs. Madonna has much more emotion rather than range. Whitney's I Will Always Love You is just overblown and soulless. Listen to Dolly's original and the fragile vocals make the song far more emotive. I hope that is the gayest thing I say for a while.
Doesn't Madonna pretty much insist on just doing one take where she can to keep the emotion - well around Like A Prayer that's what she said.
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I like the shots especially the blurry crown one. It's great.
Interesting she asked GaGa to work with her. She always goes out and supports other females artists. She really does stand up and support aspiring talent and I think that gets overlooked or written off as trying to steal ideas.
However, she continues to support Britney even though Britters is no longer a hip act.
As for LaChapelle - gay man in bitter at Madonna shocker. Snore!
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there is nothing left to kill... might as well include it in a new compilation that will be "bought" by casuals
I don't think killing the IC is necessarily a bad thing? She's had nearly 20 more years of work since then and a new compliation including old and new will help expose this newer work to a broader audience and help people investigate her more recent work.
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Marc Jacobs' boyfriend is fucking beautiful.
Didn't they just get married?
As for the shots, I didn't like them but I can see they are much better and far more striking in HQ. Now I get them!
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This is so ignorant, I don't even know where to start.
Say that to the face of my adopted friends.
These countries need help obviously, but there's alot that must be changed within poor countries aswell, not just aid from rich countries can make these changes, their whole system and way of thinking must be changed basically. It's nothing that will be made in just a couple of years and MILLIONS of children will die till that die (may?) come! But according to your logic they should be left there to die then...
At the moment I don't see what's bad with someone actually giving a kid a better life.
Sorry but I have nothing more to add to that ignorant comment. You make it look so easy, while it's not.
And about the documentary. It's sick that he compare building orphanages to colonialism! I mean this man is sick seriously. How the media is treating is is just SICK!
Adopting a child is evil and bad? Building orphanages and schools in poor countries is colonialism?
What do these people want? That the children should just die without any international help? Because that would be the result if these journalists wishes would come true.
You're being very naive and don't ever call me ignorant when you have never met me and I have watched the documentary to make an informed opinion. I never said adopting a child is evil and bad. I have adopted friends too but they weren't taken away from one culture, adopted by one of the most famous people in the world to then spend the formative years of their lives in the eyes of a press in a world completely alien to 99% of the worlds population. My friends didn't have any other relatives either unlike both these children who seem to have extensive families.
Her grandmother was going to adopt in the true sense of the word. That is fine. I've absolutely no problems with that - her own family taking her into a familiar environment. Secondly, the children weren't dying either. Just because they were in Africa, it doesn't mean they are all dying left, right and centre. Yes, they are poor but they had families there. Could Madonna have sponsored the children and left them with their families throughout their lifetimes. I think that would have been better.
It's great they are supporting the country but I can't see the point of singling two kids out WHO STILL HAVE FAMILY. At least if they were true orphans then they wouldn't be leaving behind family members who will rarely get to see them. Madonna will be one of the better celeb mothers but it will be a massive culture shock for them and what about when they are adults? Would they want to return home? Would their families want to come to the US? It throws up so many questions.
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She also got rave reviews from non fans at Live8. People were genuinely surprised at her performance.
She may not have a voice as good as Susan Boyle's but I know who I'd prefer to see live in lycra.
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Srry but she does have a strong voice, just not in a whitney houston kind of way. i hear tons of power in her voice when i hear her sing.
Yes, I remember everyone being amazed when she sang "You Must Love Me" on S&S tour. Mother and Father of RIT was good too. Perhaps she just needs to sit down more often, poor old dear.
I suppose the explosion of youtube in the last few years mean we can see live recordings of tours in their raw form. It's only a few years ago where the only copy we would hear would be the highly tweaked final video version. Now we can see every performance in all its unedited glory. When you are at a live event, the vocals are never so clear that you can hear the faults.
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600,000 ViewersPITIFUL
To be fair, it was a lousy and odd time to have it. I thought it was at 9.00 but it was at 8.00 on a Monday night? It was up against primetime viewing and the Andy Murray match. Although I do think that Madonna is not that great a TV draw now anyway from a personal life point of view. Everyone knows her life story and knows she can put on a great show so she can sell out a huge tour but what really is there left to know about her life that interests the general public? I doubt if a similar documentary about Brangelina would have pulled in much more either.
I think this is one of those subjects the press are more interested in than the general public.
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so long as she doesn't grab her crotch, flick her foot and shout "shummon", I'll be happy with whatever she does.
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Has she stopped crying yet?
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I've not get the feeling that Madonna was that bothered about her singing quality. Only for Evita but other than that, I think she is happy enough to crow along to her hits.
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actually, it's not missing; it's the 8th track on the 2nd CD
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As it said in the documentary, neither of the children are orphans. In Malawi, "orphanages" are often places where people put their children if they are having a tough time in the hope that things will get better and they can return to their families in two or three years.
And yes, I am against the adoptions - I think it would be better to sponsor a child in their own community through to university or support a community to develop and provide for themselves.
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The fact that Secret is missing leads me to believe the tracklist is wrong - it was the lead single off BS and I can't see why she would miss it out but put Fever on even though I prefer Fever myself.
I wasn't fussed about Iconography. I thought it lacked the humour of The Immaculate Collection. However, if the title is Hits, I think that will be incredibly lame.
I've not heard Mimi's record at all here in the UK. I think the US chart set up distorts her actual popularity. Her singles generally do a lot less well than Madonna's now and it's been a few years since she has actually had a mega hit. She's a big star but not in the league of Madonna or MJ.
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When I see that video and the official video I'm so glad she saw Bananarama and change her look.
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Yes, Van Den Bosch is definitely a sinister character but I think it is more likely he greased the wheels of the adoption than trying to brainwash the whole nation with Kabollox.
There are some dubious goings on like potentially taking the land without paying for it but overall I think it comes down to some very rich westerners trying to help a very poor nation and trying to provide some kind of moral guidance too. Just like Christianity before it. The documentary is over dramatising it like it's a cult of devil worshippers.
I don't think taking kids out of their native countries is necessarily a good thing but looking at Lourdes and Rocco on IGTTYAS, they seem pretty well adjusted and well brought up kids so out of all the celebrities to adopt, I think Madonna is probably one of the much better parents.
I'm bored of it now though - the tennis is much better!
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This is not showing her in a good light AT ALL. Wimbledon is on the other side so luckily no one will be watching this.
I'll be checking out C4 + 1
I must admit though, some of the documentaries on Channel 4 are rather biased and I wouldn't say they now have the credibility of a BBC documentary. They used to be credible but the channel is becoming a joke and I think they sensationalise content more than they used to.
Whilst I am not a fan of her adoptions, I think Madonna is a hate figure for much of the British serious media and I don't think she would be given due respect.
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What about Prince and Madonna doing Say, Say, Say? I'd love to see those two rock the house.
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Radio 1 didn't say that. They usually check their facts unlike the delusional Kay Burley. Radio 1 said Jackson's camp were spouting a figure of 104 million but Guinness estimates sales at 65 million MAX.
Of course MJ's output has been a lot less, even though his career stretches a longer time span. 750 million is way off the mark. By SEVERAL HUNDRED MILLION.
On the day after his death, Radio 1's newsbeat report definitely said 100 Million for Thriller. I remember it as the bloke doing the report could barely string a sentence together and most of it sounded like it was cobbled together at the last minute just spouting soundbites and platitudes. Shockingly amateurish. I think they got one of the muppets from One Extra to make it sound more street and relate to the yoof.
However, I was reading today that sales after the death of artists such Elvis, Kurt Cobain, Tupac Shakur and so on rocket so he could make that figure if his sales are handled well enough. Elvis' sales were supposedly 150M before death and now 1 billion although, once again, we have to trust lazy-arsed journalists who just go straight to wikipedia.
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I think Heal The World is MJ's biggest selling single in the UK. Tragic!
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Typical feminist who trashes other strong women!
She just needs a good shag to get rid of that chip on her shoulder.
Madonna Greatest Hits: Hopefully Out By Fall
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Thanks for that. I had not seen the full story. I think LP got a video as it tied in with the perfume it was promoting. Big waste of NF though as it was the one song picked up from the start. However, I thought BGO was on stickers of the CDs implying some sort of release?
Ulitmately, I suppose it comes down to respecting an artist releases what they want rather than just the most obvious choice for commercial gain. I can't wait for this album though as it sounds interesting.