KalamazooJay
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23 minutes ago, Jazzy Jan said:
This thread is really depressing when it should not be. People getting stuck into her fan base - which they are supposed to be part of.. Worrying about other singers. Also, where has all this awful putting down of other countries come from ? Happens all the time now. This forum is called Madonnanation - the word nation is so wonderful, apt and lovely in that we all can enjoy Madonna together. Yet all this putting down of other countries. Love that so many nationalities, genders, age groups can enjoy Madonna and sad that there is so much insulting of differences.
God bless you.
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1 hour ago, Suedey said:
The US hasn’t cared for Madonna since Music let’s face it. Super Bowels was pretend LUV. She will always have Europe and South America locked down. Asia also to a certain extent but she has also lost Oz (but they love that shit Pink so they have awful taste anyway and they don’t deserve her after the RHT fiasco)
What a shitty, childish thing to say. And wholly unnecessary and inaccurate.
Madonna had the U.S in the palm of her hands during the Confessions era as well as the lead up to the Super Bowl. It’s her own fault for releasing the abomination that is GMAYL that made the U.S turn their back on her afterwards.
And it was Madonna who didn’t tour Australia for 20 years after the Girlie Show. Then came back with inexcusable tardiness during the RHT.
So let’s stop the generalization of entire countries, shell we?
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3 minutes ago, Gabriel Ciccone said:
MDNA and Rebel Heart sold more outside US. She doesn't need them since the first album, when she sold 5 million in US and 5 million outside.
Yeah. Ok. No.
She needs the U.S.
As I said, she’s a businesswoman. She knows where her bread is buttered. She’s never going to write off a market that’s 50% of her profits.
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Please.
Of course she’ll focus on the U. S market. It’s where the bulk of her money is made.
She’s not stupid. She knows her chart success is long gone here. But it isn’t as if she garnered newly found international fame and success with her last two albums. So let’s stop pretending Spain and Argentina adored her and propped her up since 2012.
She’s literally the last international superstar alive. She’ll promote this album accordingly as she’s always done.
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For the life of me I can’t understand why people would have any issue with her calling this album Madame X.
I find it to be FAR more interesting than Hard Candy, American Life, and MDNA.
At least Madame X conjures up some kind of intrigue. It’s something that sounds like the beginning of a story.
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2 minutes ago, Kurt420 said:
OMG I'm so caught up in the now and up the next month I haven't really thought about tour yet. Agreed though, IF all this ends up being true, it could really make for an amazing tour!!
I know, right??
Not to keep comparing this to Tori Amos, but while the album, American Doll Posse was a total mess (in my opinion) the TOUR was one of her absolute best. The different ‘characters’ she portrayed allowed her to dig back into her discography and perform songs she hadn’t done in YEARS. So it’d be fun to see what Madonna could do with a concept like that on stage.
Ok, I’m done. We have no fucking clue what she’s going to do and I’m raising my own expectations.
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Obviously we have no idea what this whole thing is about. As much as some people in here like to pretend they do....
BUT... If she were to do some kind of character portrayal or role playing with this era, that would be entirely different from any of her prior reinventions. Sure, there was Dita and Veronica Electronica and Esther (
) but she’s never done an era as someone else but Madonna. And IF (big iIF) all of these different pics she’s posted with drastically different wigs and make up ARE in fact some kind of multi character concept, then I’m all here for it.
I think it’d be extremely interesting to see these different characters conceptualized on stage for the next tour IF (BIG IF) that’s what she has planned.
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15 minutes ago, Kilt said:
Is she going the Tori Amos "American Doll Posse" route?
I thought of Tori as well but more along the lines of Strange Little Girls but without the covers.
Either way, I’m EXTREMELY intrigued for the first time since Met Gala. She’s clearly got something big on the way.
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Hillary was what a majority of us were prior to Election Day in 2016:
Cocky and over confident.
Because a majority of us couldn’t possibly imagine that a failed businessman and 3rd rate reality televion Star who pandered to the underbelly of American society could ever become president.
You can’t fault her for that. Anyone going up against Donald Trump would’ve probably been the same way. But Hillary wasn’t exactly anyone. She had perceptions of her baked in. Just as he did. The biggest difference is that HIS supporters were rabidly loyalty and inspired by her. And he had more of them. And they came out in droves.
Lets remember he only win by about 80,000 votes between two states. Mine (Michigan) being one of them. And let’s also remember ALL three of those states (MI, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania) voted in democratic senators and governors in 2018. These are not red states. They’re very pragmatic, fluid states that bend with the political winds.
The rust belt was willing to give Trump a chance. Depending on who the Dems put up in 2020, I’m not so sure these states are willing to do so again. Even despite a good economy.
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Madonna has always had something to say about pop culture and society at large. Whether it was overtly political (American Life) or an underlying message disguised as a banger (Vogue).
So this idea that she needs to stay away from “politics” is like wishing she would stay away from talking about sexuality.
We need her voice now more than we ever have. And given the nationalistic and xenophobic wave that has crashed upon the most of the Western Hemisphere, I’m interested to hear what she has to say
The fact that she’s putting drag queens in a music video to make a statement is beyond exciting and rather poignant. No one in pop music history has made bigger cultural statements than Madonna. Period.
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9 minutes ago, Flip The Switch said:
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Madonna has a pretty stellar track record of releasing top notch first singles. With her biggest missteps being American Life, GMAYL, and -as much as I adore this song- Living For Love.
It’s a pipe dream to think Madonna is ever going to achieve LAP, Vogue, or Frozen CHART status with a first single ever again. But it is realistic that she’d be able to achieve some kind of viral and/or critical success with something fresh, funky, and new.
And it appears she’s on track to deliver just that.
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5 hours ago, Crystal Coffin said:
"Live to Tell" is a pure soft rock ballad and if you count "Papa Don't Preach" as the lead single of TB - how would you describe this one, eh?
Agree completely. I was going with LAP to now with my choices.
PDP? Well, it does clarify as a pop song but not in the traditional sense. I’d honestly put it in a similar category as LAP. It’s kind of an anthem. When it’s come on at parties or clubs, people don’t necessarily DANCE to it. They’re more doing that awkward sing/dance/arm swinging thing.
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She’s always been all over the place with her lead singles.
Like A Prayer is NOT a traditional “dance” song by any means. It’s more of an anthem if anything. A sing along.
Erotica blends house, funk, and a whole host of other elements.
Secret was easily the most subdued single she released up until that point.
Frozen, as others here have said, basically can’t be categorized.
American Life. I mean. What the hell was this?
Only Hung Up and Music were the two true “pop” and “dance” bangers in the last 30 years.
Her lead singles have always been unique and unexpected. Which is why we’re always on the edge of our seats in uncontrollable anticipation before a new era begins.
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While I’ve never been the biggest fan of Nancy Pelosi, I have to say, I’m impressed with her grit and how masterfully she played Trump.
Finally, after nearly 4 years of him plowing over his rivals with name calling and tweets and using the right wing media mega phone, he got beaten BADLY and out maneuvered beautifully by her.
She is having none of this guys bullshit and has proven to be the only person to make him look like the sniveling, thin skinned, loser that he is.
I’m looking forward to seeing how their dynamic plays out while she’s Speaker. So far so good, Nancy. You keep dog walking that motherfucker.
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Honestly?
Madonna has made GOOD wig choices throughout her career. Especially the 2016 Met Gala look. Flawless.
She’s never been as tacky as Cher or Gaga or Minaj when it came to wearing wigs.
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Ok now that picture I L O V E
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The ones in here demanding Madonna put on another strenuous choreographed show at 60 years are mind boggling delusional.
The woman has defied countless obstacles in her career, but she can’t defy age. Regardless of how well you take care of yourself, your body fucking changes as you get older - especially after 60.
She’d be stupid to do anything close to MDNA or S&S and she obviously understands this. It’s stupid and ignorant fans that don’t.
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1 hour ago, Jazzy Jan said:
Love the look but that filter is dreadful. She looks like how Laura Palmer was described in Twin Peaks - wrapped in plastic. What is with the shiny face that looks like glad wrap or Vaseline. Madonna is such a beautiful woman and does not need those over the top filters. Spoils the photo for me completely.
Thank you. I love that it’s a voice of reason in this forum saying this.
It’s a photo that’s filtered beyond recognition. She’s one of the most photogenic women that’s ever walked the face of the earth. And this is what we get?
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1 hour ago, trickyricky said:
i think she is saving all that for a rainy day ...
Well it’s been raining in Madonna-Land for quite some time.
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1 hour ago, Stephen said:
What makes Madonna Madonna though is that she doesn't care about this--she is constantly moving forward.
She'll do all this legacy shit later in life. SHE's NOT DONE
Madonna can walk and chew gum at the same time. She can simultaneously celebrate her legacy while still moving forward and reinventing herself.
Shd simply chooses not too.
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16 hours ago, Jazzy Jan said:
It has definitely grown stronger. I have followed Madonna since the start and have always known the hatred she has received. However, lately there has been an obvious push to completely downplay her and I see it all the time. The way now that her Superbowl performance is either deliberately not talked about or treated like it was trashed everywhere when it was so loved and acclaimed. Articles claiming that she was never in the same league as other superstars in fame and influence. Articles by her own "fans" apologizing and wringing their hands about liking her and even agreeing that others are far more talented etc. . Sorry, but not burying my head in the sand. It is up to Madonna's team to address these dreadful lies and downplaying of her. She deserves so much better. The most influential and popular female singer of all time should never be treated like this.
It’s also up to Madonna herself.
Out of all of the living icons and legends out there, Madonna herself has been criminally negligent of her OWN legacy. The tour setlists, the lack of reissues and anniversary celebrations, the reluctance to embrace what made her famous in interviews and on stage. All of this has been incredibly damaging to not just her legacy, but her image as a whole. It’s completely astonishing that she does nothing more to celebrate milestones like Ray of Light, Like A Prayer, the anniversary of Everybody being released, with nothing more than an Instagram post. Everyone from Fleetwood Mac to Garbage to Tori Amos have done incredible reissues and tours of their icon albums. And their fans- like myself - eat it up.
You’re absolutely correct in stating she has a shitty team around her. But Madonna herself has the power and direction to administer these kinds of things. Even if it’s just random performances like the one she did on Fallon singing Borderline a few years back. I showed my friends that performance and they just melted. It’s things like that which capture the nostalgia people feel when they see her and hear songs that they grew up with. And it’s high time she gets out there with the best discography in all of pop music to remind the world why she’s the Queen. She has the arsenal, she just needs to use it.
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On December 29, 2018 at 1:16 AM, caba1 said:
i always find videos with storyline boring. The last one i remember is this one:
the song is great but the video doesn't have replay value. On the other side, the lead single had a colorfull video and it was quite succesful.
people want aesthetically pleasing videos more than one that has a story. Of course these have a meaning behind but it's more important the quality of the visuals. Here we have examples:
i don't know you but i'd LOVE something directed by WES ANDERSON (The Grand Budapest Hotel, Moonrise Kingdom, The Royal Tenembaums). His aesthetic and visuals>>>>>>>>>>>>
What a load of #FakeNews and fresh Horseshit.
The only people who ‘want’ that are a breed of basic bitches who order iced coffee while checking their Grindr in their used Ray Bans they bought off of the newest shopping ‘boutique’ app.
Madonna is not ‘them’ and she never has been. ‘They’ have always wanted to BE Madonna. I’d gag if she followed in their footsteps with some glossy, overproduced, filtered piece of #basic garbage. And I don’t mean gagging in the good way.
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1 hour ago, sul8323 said:
It's So Cool as well.
And thank god we had that gem to tide us over.
new album thread (CLOSED)
in ARCHIVE - The MADAME X Forum
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OH MY FUCKING GOD.
THE VISUALS
