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17 hours ago, Kim said:
These reports of civilian massacres in Bucha are horrifying! Undoubted war crimes.
Most definitely. So heart-breaking, horrifying and evil.
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21 hours ago, Raider of the lost Ark said:
The dems need to get their act together. They have a huge communication problem because they are not able to get the message about about Bidens achievements across. Biggest job growth in 40 years, a trillion dollar infrastructure bill ...
They should stop trying to "unite" the country. At this point in time there is just no way. They (the dems) can't do anything about it as long as there are so many extremists on the republican side in power, that will do anything to tear apart this country even further. By lies and legislation. The dems need to start fighting tooth and nails. There is no time to lose.
They should give up on the Republicans who are never going to agree with anything they do, even when it would benefit them greatly. They far right extremists are never going to change any of their crackpot views.
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1 hour ago, MadFan said:
Which would be their choice to make, as a sovereign nation. I say CHOICE loosely here, obviously. But (and I'm not speaking about you babe), to suggest that that's what they must do, or that Zelenskyy is as much to blame as Putin (again, just referencing some of the rhetoric I've read online) or that he shares the blood of the Ukrainian people with Putin, is outrageous victim blaming. On the micro level, if somebody broke in to my house and I didn't acquiesce my dining room to them and then they shot my family dead, I'm not 'partly responsible', nor is it my failure to compromise.
The apologists for Putin ( conspiracy theorists are all supporting him ) are staggering in their hatred for Ukraine and also the West. It is not Ukraine’s fault they have been invaded yet some still decide to support Putin and try to understand him.
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3 hours ago, ULIZOS said:
How is this sanity? You're all romanticizing this idea of "fighting to the death".
Ukraine standing up to Putin is wonderful and inspiring, but also if they WERE to reach a compromise (giving up more regions to Russia / agree not to join NATO / whatever) as a means to end this horrific bloodshed and destruction I wouldn't blame them one bit.
It's so easy for all of you to say this. You don't have to "pray" for allies, you're part of NATO it will happen automatically. Ukraine is alone.
No one is romanticising this situation. Everyone acknowledges how alone and unsupported they are. It is dreadful and heartbreaking. I wish they had more support and help. The criticism is more aimed at Putin apologists who always blame the West for everything and expect Ukraine to just hand over their land.
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6 hours ago, CzarnaWisnia said:
If he was a good leader, he would have realized on the first day that the ultimate principle is the preservation of life, not the preservation of land, and that there was no value in fighting a losing battle. I think he just expected NATO countries to flock to UKr.'s defence, which they were never going to do. Sending weapons and other things is for them like sending their wishes, while making a huge profit. The longer this lasts, the more innocent people will die and see their lives ruined for years.
If some evil dictator invaded Australia and demanded land, I would want my country to fight and not just hand it over. Some suggested at the time in second world war that Australia should divide the country up and give much of it to Japan . Why should the people of Ukraine give up their land to this evil dictator. Why should the people of Ukraine have to accept a control freak who will change their life as their leader ? The world compromised and did deals with Hitler and look how that worked out. Should Hong Kong and potentially Taiwan just give their freedoms over to China ? Putin needs to be stopped and that needs to be sooner rather than later
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What an evil revolting man. Disgusting on every level
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14 minutes ago, Junior said:
The Murdoch owned Melbourne Herald Sun newspaper right wing columnist Rita Panahi - ultra right wing, Trump loving etc - was applauding Florida gushingly for this.
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7 hours ago, CzarnaWisnia said:
Wow, you're just spewing complete nonsense and are totally out of line. From the beginning, I've been calling for the necessity to negotiate and cease the war as soon as possible instead of counting on counter-attacking the aggressor on the ground, and I get mocked constantly.
If Putin invaded Canada, would you want Canada to negotiate with him and most likely be forced to give him much of your land or would you want to fight to protect your country ? Seeing so much footage of people from Ukraine despairing about Putin and Russia changing their entire lives with his cruel and undemocratic regime, why should they negotiate with a brutal cruel dictator. It is their country, not Putin's to invade. So bizarre to see people who live in democratic countries expect Ukraine to just give up their much cherished democracy to go back to times that were supposed to be firmly in the past. Plus you can't negotiate with power hungry control freaks like Putin.
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5 hours ago, Junior said:
Absolutely disgusting. If anyone still has any excuses for Putin, this should wake them up entirely. Evil and unforgivable.
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On 3/5/2022 at 8:36 PM, acko said:
I know. It's tiresome at this point. It's the choice of a FREE nation.
My friend's parents are trying to flee Kiev, but her mother is too ill with cancer to move... it's fucking heatbreaking on so many levels.
So heartbreaking
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. Blaming America and the west for Putin invading another country that he wants as part of the USSR again is ignoring the rights of citizens of Ukraine. Wanting to compromise and appease him. Treating Ukraine like a country to simply negotiate with a dictator over. The sovereignty of a nation can’t be wiped out because one dictator decides to take it.
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6 hours ago, Gaudet said:
Does anyone believe Putin's willingness to commit to all three points?
And how long for would he committ to that?
Putin cannot be trusted.
I would NOT trust Putin as far as I could throw him. Such a lying, manipulative and evil dictator. He makes me furious and devastated.
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Anyone else who have friends/colleagues etc who are rabid conspiracy theorists - for examples they believe the earth is flat, covid is a hoax and all Democrats are child abusers etc - noticed something. They are all posting on their social media anti Ukraine and pro Putin posts. So tragic and yet so predictable. All blaming Ukraine and the West.
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3 minutes ago, CzarnaWisnia said:
Negotiation for an immediate ceasefire.
You can’t negotiate with power hungry dictators. History has shown that over and over again.
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4 minutes ago, CzarnaWisnia said:
So your solution is as I said: bomb more, more destruction, more death, etc.
What is your solution ? Ukraine is a country with 44 million people who have been invaded by a megalomaniacal dictator who wants to restore the USSR and will not listen to anyone but instead threaten other countries in Europe. He knows nobody wants to start a war with Russia and is arrogantly ignoring the world begging him to retreat. Nothing is going to stop him unless the world intervenes and defends Ukraine.
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9 minutes ago, Paul said:
Yanis was my economics lecturer at first year uni. He was an average economist, and an ineffective finance minister. I guess he is entitled to his views, but this sounds like the worst approach. If Putin was really only concerned about NATO membership, he could have removed any reasons for nations wanting to join NATO. Instead he chose the opposite. It's clear that's not really his end game.
Agree. Also never give into blackmail. Dictators such as Putin blackmail and enter compromise agreements but ignore these agreements at their whim.
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20 minutes ago, CzarnaWisnia said:
Yes, I am also sick of the selfish self obsessed way that people are encouraged to worry about their personal reactions to a tragedy instead of the tragedy itself.
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1 hour ago, Jazzy Jan said:
The silence from China is deafening. If they back Putin, it would be an absolute disaster for the World.
Quoting myself but have now seen China has commented. They had been very quiet previously.
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The silence from China is deafening. If they back Putin, it would be an absolute disaster for the World.
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22 minutes ago, Gaudet said:
Think again if you believe this is just about Ukraine only.
Russia threatens 'serious military repercussions' if Finland joins NATO
Russia threatens 'military repercussions' if Finland joins NATO (yahoo.com)
Russia warns of ‘military consequences’ if Finland and Sweden join Nato
Russia warns of ‘military consequences’ if Finland and Sweden join Nato (telegraph.co.uk)
Small man, HUGE ego.
He is terrifying. How dare he dictate to Finland and Sweden about their choices . Putin is a dangerous loose canon who would not blink an eye about killing millions to regain absolute power and restore the USSR.
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I watched an interesting interview yesterday with our former foreign affairs minister Julie Bishop. She met Putin at a conference and discussed the shooting down of the passenger plane by Russia that killed all civilian passengers. She said Putin was steely, hard, unapologetic, determined and spoke perfect English in person. Also said he was passionate about wanting the USSR to return to it’s glory and thought it’s dismantling was the biggest travesty of the last century. Extremely dangerous times ahead in Europe.
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19 minutes ago, Cyber-Raga said:
In 1938 Hitler annexed Austria and the German speaking part of former Czechoslovakia. GB, USA, France allowed him to do so at a conference in Munich because they believed it would appease him. He kept on saying rhetorical bullshit, basically suggesting these countries / regions were part of the former German Empire and that 1919 (Peace treaty after WW1) was a mistake which needed to be corrected bc of German interests.
Cut to a few month later when he invaded the non-German speaking part of Czechoslovakia after saying in Munich he wouldn’t.
This was the red line in the sand for the western nations, so they gave Poland the guarantee that they would declare war on Germany should Hitler also annex them. On September 1st 1939 the German army crossed the border to Poland after a bullshit propaganda dispute and thus WW2 began.Putin is annexing the pro Russian part of the Ukraine now. Political expert are predicting that he will not be satisfied until he has the whole Ukraine. If people don’t perceive this as a problem or threat, I do not know what is wrong with them. Just listen to his insane speech from the other day where he said that 1917 (the Russian Empire under a Zar) needed to be culturally restored and that even the Sowjet Union was wrong to allow these countries some sense of existence.
Oh and Biden this, the West that … sorry but this has nothing to do with invading a sovereign country. Europe hasn’t seen this since the end of WW2. Even the Balkan wars were civil wars, which was bad enough.
Agree totally.
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1 hour ago, Genevieve Vavance said:
I'm sorry not the time for that right now, but
What a Cringe worthy idiot. The only good thing about this video is that it is so stupid, it is funny. Celebrities can be so shockingly self absorbed and idiotic.
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Would love to see members here who keep defending Putin to go and live in Russia. Where people are ruled and oppressed. Their votes in elections not even counted. Gay people are treated appallingly as so many gay Russians have spoken out about. But hey, let’s keep blaming the Democrats in the USA. As for Ukraine having weapons, they will need them. Russia has a huge military weapon base. Putin will keep going on his power grab too.
New war in Europe, courtesy of Putin
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Putin has done so much damage to this world. The way he has manipulated media reports ie pretending real events are fake is nothing short of disgusting, manipulative and terrifying.