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    Madonna should have pulled a Taylor for Madame X

    in ARCHIVE - The MADAME X Forum

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    On 8/3/2020 at 4:43 PM, Jipsea said:

    Ooh, I like this idea. I also liked the hype and buildup for Madame X, though, so I'm not too peeved with the way things turned out. Also, Taylor's fans are more interactive and agressive so they always know whats coming whereas Madonna fans are older and have lives to attend to, so they'll need more time to know if something is coming. So while in theory its a good idea, in reality it might have gone poorly.

    The blue vinyl sold out in just a few hours. Just saying. 

    Madonna should have pulled a Taylor for Madame X

    in ARCHIVE - The MADAME X Forum

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    11 hours ago, HolidayGuy said:

    The rule changes have to do with ticket and merchandise bundles. An act can still release as many versions of an album as they'd like, and sales of those count toward charts.

    Note: Any album that comes bundled with a digital copy always counted as one sale.

    Indeed but now I'm talking about this:

    In addition, Billboard will no longer allow sales of physical albums or singles that are bundled with digital downloads to be reported as digital sales, thereby eliminating the practice of “spontaneous” non-manufactured items being used to influence first-week chart rankings. Only when the physical item -- ostensibly what the consumer is buying -- is shipped, will it be counted in Billboard’s official tallies.

    The practice of selling vinyl, CDs and other physical releases that won’t be manufactured and shipped to consumers for weeks or months -- while offering a digital download that can be redeemed instantly -- has become widespread as of late, with artists including Justin Bieber, Ariana Grande and 6ix9ine all recently using the tactic to boost their chart positions. The latest rule changes will render that tactic ineffectual.

    All of those 17 variations of an album that will only be shipped in 4 months time come with a digital copy and as of today will allow those sales to be counted for next week's chart.

    Taylor’s overnight release is a transparent attempt to benefit from that model before the rules change are in place.

    Sure anyone can still do this but sales will only count once the items are shipped which would mean the artist would either have to do this months in advance, so not benefiting from the buzz of the release date or sales will simply not count until a much later date so the first week effect will be lost.

    Madonna should have pulled a Taylor for Madame X

    in ARCHIVE - The MADAME X Forum

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    1 minute ago, peter said:

    I was thinking about this ... well, not precisely, of course, @Je5u5, you have a brilliant idea!! It would have made much more sense, with the multiple identities of Madame X, for Madonna to issue a variety of covers. (More so than for Taylor’s folklore, in my opinion.) Madame X certainly had the imagery. 

    I was wondering about how far that model can be stretched. It would be interesting to know how many of Taylor’s sales were from multiple copies, just different covers. But of course there’s no way to know that, I suppose. 

    I mean, for the past few albums, it has been this way for M, with a standard, deluxe, and super deluxe. I remember ROL, Music, AL, COADF, and HC all had one standard and one deluxe. Oh I guess that’s all MDNA had, too — just felt like more because there were standard versions with Gang Bang and without. So they only started to exploit it a bit with RH and Madame X. But 8 editions each on CD and vinyl? Seems a bit over the top, in my opinion. But whatever. If she can move those units, I guess more power to her.

    I know. It was the perfect album concept and image wise to try something like this.

    The beauty of it is that there is not a specific amount of units: instead of the usual "limited to X copies" it's only limited in time frame and they will be shipped in 16 weeks so I'm sure they're not even manufactured yet. So once the ordering period is done, they will just print as many copies as they sold, but already having collected the money beforehand so it's risk free.

    There is no "I will wait to see if the price drops". No "I will wait for my next paycheck". No "I will wait for the reviews". It's "You want it? Then it's now or never". It's evil in many ways LOL. But many would also fall for it. Probably me included. 

    COVID-19 aka Coronavirus

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    2 hours ago, mmmike said:

    Question for Spaniards and Italians...

    Has the government helped you out financially like the $1,200 some of us got in the United States?

    I am wondering because I asked my cousin in Rome and he said there was no government financial support. 

    If you have lost your job either permanently or temporarily, then yes, you get government support.

     

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