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    Israel and Hamas war

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    3 minutes ago, elijah said:

     

    And when you say "Palestine shouldn’t even have to share the land of what nowadays is Israel", you understand there are 10 million Jews in Israel now, right? If Palestine shouldnt share land with them, what should those people do? Move back to Spain, from where they were chased out in 1492???? 

    I don’t think Israel should disappear. I say they should understand they occupied the lands. So at least they stop stealing more and give back much stolen these past decades. 
     

    About what you say about 1492 I will not comment because those are words from a CUNT. Fuck off.

    Israel and Hamas war

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    5 minutes ago, Acediace said:

    Look, I know that I write in very emotional way and it's not black or white... but you have no idea how scared and hurt I am. I don't see Palestinian as bad people, I have friend from collage that ate Palestinian. We do live in peace on regular times. I do see Hamas as bad tho.

    There is no point for me to actually talk about this In a madonna forum. I now that I will not change your mind

     I just do this to pass the time

    The thing is that of course we are not minimizing anything. And we all condemn Hamas. We simply add another important issue in the equation. An issue that if all democratic Israeli person added too would mean the end of much suffering. Nobody in Israel should accept that Palestine is right now blocked and bombed just like nobody in Palestine should accept such a horrifying terror attack on Israel. 

    Israel and Hamas war

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    1 minute ago, Acediace said:

    Gaza is not occupied, Israel is not in Gaza, Isreal left this territory completely in 2005. The West Bank is the complicated issue regarding the occupation and is where the international community see as  occupied. Not that for the Palestinian iisreally matters... for them, whole Israel should be palestine. From the river to the sea

    You are aware that the colonization of more and more lands is on the news here and that we know also that Israel never fulfills the UNO dictates? 

    Israel and Hamas war

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    1 hour ago, elijah said:

    How exacly? I dont see your logic. Please elaborate.

    Palestine shouldn’t even have to share the land of what nowadays is Israel. They created a new State based on where people lived centuries ago. Just what Putin did with Crimea. Israel had the same rights on that land as Russia has on Crimea: NONE.

    Israel and Hamas war

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    1 hour ago, runa said:

    Since 2008, 6407 Palestinians were killed while 308 Israelis were killed in the context of the occupation and conflict.

    Those are official numbers from the United Nations. FACTS. Not Instagram posts from nobodies. That was before the attack, obviously.

    Having said that, I condemn the Hamas attack against Israel. If they wanted to make things worse for Palestinians, well done.

    Preach 

    Israel and Hamas war

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    30 minutes ago, elijah said:

    Which Palestine at this point? Gaza is self governing I think and the West Bank… well I don’t know how Israel and Palestine would divide that… Good luck! And how and when will you accept Palestine as free? Not to shift the blame, but many times the Palestine had a chance to have its state, but they never accepted it because they want all of it. Well no matter how they came to the holy land, how do Palestinian expect 10 mill Jews to evacuate “their land” (at this point)? I think the viable solution would probably be a federation between those two with a jew as a president and a Palestinian as vice president, self governing parts with central government like Belgium. All else would not be accepted by the Palestinians I would assume.

    How can you say that? You are using the same rethoric as Putin in Ukraine. 

     

    Israel and Hamas war

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    49 minutes ago, Acediace said:

    I can't deal with people talking nonsense, speaking with zero knowledge of what's happening in this area. I live here. I know this reality. You don't live here. none of you grew up with memories of exploding buses, with rockets flying into your neighborhoods. You talking about oppression bullshit. Israel left Gaze in 2005 in order to move toward peace. These fucking terrorist monsters spend all of their money on terror and keep growing. PEOPLE SINCE 2000 KEPT GETTING ROCKETS TO THEIR HOMES FROM GAZA IN THE PLACES WHERE THE HORRIFIC EVENTS WERE. SINCE 2009 THE CITY I LIVE IN STARTED TO JOIN THIS TERROR CYCLE. 
    YOU FUCKING DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!!!
    of course, the blame is on the Israeli government all these years that let this thing go on and on and on, but people can't deny that Israel is facing terrorism.
    I'm afraid to get out of the house. I'm afraid the army is gonna call me to join the war. I'm afraid for my family and friends' lives. I can't stop thinking about all of these people that the monsters reached them. there is a Kibbutz that was completely destroyed, with nothing left of it... 

    A young woman was at the party that was that night. they murdered her, dragged her naked body to Gaza "celebrated" her naked dead body on the street, assaulted her body, and filmed all of this and uploaded this on social media so Israelis would see it. She was from Germany, her mother made a video begging that her daughter's body would returned to her...Think about this case and imagine 1000 more like this ( as for now, we still don't know everything and there are more than 100 people kidnapped in Gaza)... you people talking about oppression... They are fucking monsters...

    I have a Palestinian friend from college, and I've heard many Palestinians from Israel saying that from now on they consider themselves Israeli and not Palestinians
    their attackers killed many arab people in Israel too

    You don't know shit

    Your opinion is very important because you live there. We simply add what nobody in western governments seem to remember. Every one of us think that Hamas are evils and what they did is horrifying. We simply comment that the solution is not bombing innocent people and kill children. That was not the solution either after 11S when the USA went to bomb Afghanistan.

    In 2004 Al Qaeda Moroccan killed 204 people in Madrid in a terror attack. We did not bombed innocent people in Morocco.

    Israel and Hamas war

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    1 hour ago, elijah said:

    Hamas is a godawful organization, that should be eradicated. 

    I wonder how peace could ever be acheved in Israel. There is too much hate on both sides. Maybe a dual state? Federal state, where one can veto the other? Because I dont know how the West Bank would be given to Palestina as there are many Israeli settlements already...

    First they should stop stealing the lands. The lands with WATER. But of course that’s not in the news when it happens. Israel is the bully who is friends with the principal. 

    Israel and Hamas war

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    And people should remember that Hamas was armed and supported by Israel in the 80s to fight against the Arafats OLP. Just like USA did with the Talibans in the Afghan war in the 80s. Israel is a terror state and the Israeli people are their first victims. Israel people deserve more than that terrorist elite ruling their country. 

    Israel and Hamas war

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    6 hours ago, Genevieve Vavance said:

    of multiple disgusting men raping an innocent woman from Germany in the ass until she bleeds, then shooting her in the head and desecrating her lifeless body and spitting on it??

    A refugee camp has been bombed by Israel today. Women and children dead. Their lives are as important as any German citizen. If people condemn Hamas they should confemn Israel too. They are both indiscriminate killers 
     

     

    Israel and Hamas war

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    Everything about this is absolutely horrifying. Those poor people in the concert, those poor innocent people in both countries. I feel so bad with all the information pouring. Everything is so gratuitous and evil from the terror group amd from those Israel rulers. Pure evil.

    Israel and Hamas war

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    We are already discussing this in the instagram thread. It is true that ot should be discussed here. BTW the picture of the children in cages is fake. Meanwhile 78 Palestinian children had died in the last 24 hours because of the indiscriminate bombings in Gaza. 

    the BRICS: is there any truth behind that rumour?

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    2 hours ago, promise to try said:

    + an important group of the republican party in the USA.

    but it´s true that we don´t know how this is going to end, although it looks very likely to be with putin winning (and some say with Poland graving a part of ukraine for them, which sounds very weird to me)

     

     

    I always have the feeling that your source of information is a bit pro Russia :lmao: Poland????? 

    the BRICS: is there any truth behind that rumour?

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    1 hour ago, promise to try said:

    I don´t know why/who, but in the usa a group of people were complaining about the war against putin...well, about helping ukraine. And now with the new war, I´m sure the money will lead to israel´s help. I guess puttin has won the war already.meanwhile millions of inocent people are cought in the middle of this huge suffering. And of course, in a few weeks/months we will forget about them (the media at least)

    I am not sure that Putin will win. He only has oxygen from China and India and those two will not risk money to help that botoxed mummy 

    the BRICS: is there any truth behind that rumour?

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    1 hour ago, promise to try said:

    this thread was about the brics, but it´s ok, this is interesting too.I really don´t know a lot of what is happening, but everytime the USA needs a war to help their economy, voila, a war appears. People in the usa were complaining about the amount of money and people that the USA was giving to NATO, they were starting to talk against it...and the ucraine´s war saves the day, nobody complained about the NATO in the usa for a couple of years.. Now  some people were complaining about USA giving to much money to help ucraine...and another war is going to save the day again.I guess the USA is going to stop helping ucraine now, to help Israel, and after USA stops helping ucraine, the rest of the nato is going to leave them in putin´s hands.that way the economy continues working...

    The USA has just approved a budget which doesn’t include money for Ukraine. Some EU countries will stopped giving money too. This war is not beneficial for any country. It’s just Putin’s crazy megalomaniac project.

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