Kurt420
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OK....well, I've read numerous times, especially about GaGa that she has that "Madonna quality" that made her so unique in the early days. So based on that many have come to the conclusion (blogs, boards, media) that she is the current, most natural contender for taking over Madonna's "throne". So I didn't make this up off the top of my head, I'm basing my comment on MANY MANY comments I've read over the past few months.
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Good I'm glad she went. Maybe she can teach Gaga how to write a GoodGood pop song instead of the generic, watered down "dance" music on her album.
Sorry....but Gaga's stage looks interesting enough, her image IS enough to make one look twice at her. But the music is just simply NOT that good. It's so standard, run of the mill....PAP! Somehow for me the image doesn't fit the music. With her practically begging to be taken seriously as an artist and then hearing what is on her album....something just doesn't mesh for me. I will say this though....I would rather see her perform than hear her album. I do think the girl has genuine talent, hopefully she can do something good with it musically on her next album.
It's amazing that the first blonde haired girl that comes along with a HINT of individuality....and the fact that she isn't quite as manufactured as the Britney's and X-tina's of the last ten years.....and all of a sudden she's the REAL new Madonna.....LOL. The "next Madonna" won't be called the "next Madonna" she will be her own thing just as Madonna was. The bitch has had 2 singles.....my God.
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So the songs are gonna be electro house??
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at around 3:40 she is asked about M.
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Thanks for posting!
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Madonna tried to help MJ, I don't think she was ever quoted saying anything bad about him. She joked about LaToya's tit job on Arsenio- I think Janet was looking for an excuse to dislike her.
Yeah, the "space alien drag queen" quote was probably from some gossip rag, not official. Here is some more "back in the day" trashy gossip from the unauthorized Janet biography from back in the early 90's:
At a recent awards show, Madonna noticed Janet Jackson standing alone in a corner, waiting for directions from a technician. She walked over to her and said, "Must be nice to have nothing to do, huh?" Janet just stared her down. "Oh, lighten up girl," Madonna said as she sauntered away. "You Jacksons have no sense of humor whatsoever." As Madonna turned back toward her and winked Janet looked at her as one would look at an insect that had just crawled out of the salad.
To writer Denise Worrell, Janet summarized her feelings about Madonna quite succinctly. "Aside from dance music, I don't think there's anything whatsoever that Madonna and I have in common. And she doesn't really dance, does she?" Later, using an urban slang phrase, Janet said of Madonna, "She ain't all that. She ain't all that, at all."
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didn't Janet eventually say she was annoyed about Madonna saying things about her family? I think Madonna had made a joke somewhere or said they were weird, nothing everyone on earth hasn't already said.
It's been said MJ is annoyed with Madonna in a competitive sort of way. I think Janet is like that too.
You know, I've read on boards over the years all of these alleged quotes from Janet in regard to Madonna, but the only one I've ever actually seen or read myself is the one I posted and the recent one about how Madonna has done wonderful things etc. Not saying she hasn't been catty toward Madonna aside from the Vibe interview, just that I've never actually heard or read her say it.
I've always assumed her Vibe comments stem from when Madonna mentioned something about LaToya and her tit job and when she called Michael a "space alien drag queen" and tried to get him to do In The Closet HER WAY. I guess Janet may have felt Madonna was trying to make a fool of her brother perhaps?
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I'm sure this gets quoted every couple years (maybe months...lol) here, but this is the infamous Janet quotes regarding Madonna from Vibe magazine 1994. Remember, Janet was at a peak of her career meanwhile Madonna was in the midst of the Sex backlash:
A story that won't go away is the one in which Janet Jackson arrives unannounced at a Madonna frequented New York hot spot with brand new remixes in hand. She walks up to the booth and tells the DJ he can be the first in the country to play them--if he doesn't play another Madonna song for the entire night. Rumor (clubland legend, actually) has it that Madonna was there and, needless to say, was highly pissed- even more so when the DJ went ahead with Janet's wishes.
While one version of critical wisdom says janet. is the Erotica Madonna failed to make, another has Janet Jackson, as Rolling Stone put it, "rifling through Madonna's cast-off closet." And in Truth Or Dare, there's a scene where Madonna's in the Chanel store and emerges from a fitting room in an all-black outfit. As she walks back into the fitting room, one of her dancers says under his breath, "Very Janet Jackson/Rhythm Nation," and Madonna sticks her head out of the dressing room and says, "Bite your tongue."
It's easy to theorize that Madonna, a middle-class kid from Detroit who keeps creating, then recycling, herself, resents Janet's pedigree in the entertainment world. And it's as easy to imagine Janet resenting Madonna biting so much black style as she went through her self-creation. And as in most everything--especially popular music--race is a factor. Janet will never be thought of as being as accomplished as Madonna. It's like the NBA: Janet Jackson, like Magic Johnson, is perceived as capitalizing on what "comes naturally". Madonna, like Larry Byrd, gets crazy props because she's more of a thinker, plays a "mental game", is studied and meticulous--all traits with way more perceived value than the one(s) Janet has. I ask Janet if it's true that she can't stand Madonna. "Can't stand?" Janet asks me back, smiling, lips pursed, eyes rolling up toward the ceiling. "How does my mom say it? If I don't have anything good to say, don't say anything at all." Then she says, "Hate is a strong word." I never said "hate". "But if I did hate her, I'd have valid reasons."
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Umm...that was just a joke, Kurt.
of course it was! I just wanted to see who actually believed that shit!!
everybody have a great day!!
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OMG!!
That quote CANNOT be real! Are we SURE this is REALLY Madonna twittering?? lol
She seems so wide open on Twitter.....it's just odd.....
I like it! It's just....odd.....unusual for her, she's never been so chummy with her fans.
Quote of the year indeed!!
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Yes, Flo Rida. Last year it was "Elevator" and now it's "Right Round" that gets compared to Madonna.
Yes, this guy seems to be the extension of the HC sound, but Oakenfold is closer to COADF than HC, so I guess the GH sessions are the extension of Madonna's dance music obsession as of late, and it's most likely not the "next album preview" stuff we predicted.
A hybrid COADF/HC sound could be GOOD!
It would make sense for her to do an "extension" of the sounds of her last couple of albums for the GH anyways. Save the NEW NEW stuff for a brand new album!
I'm officially excited!! LEAK LEAK LEAK!!!
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The 3rd track on his Myspace sounds like Danja's "Break The Ice". Weren't many wanting Madonna to work with Danja without Timbaland?
I'm not sure if this guy produced "Right Round", according to Wiki it was done by Britney's current producer Dr Luke, I think Frank E just remixed it, but it still has a hip hop vibe.
OH ok....I thought he actually produced Right Round. I agree that the third song does sound a bit like Danja. It sounds like a song that would've fit in good on Britney's Blackout album. So, as it looks right now the new songs on the GH are indeed going to be a sort of continuation/slight expansion of the sound on HC. To me the stuff on his site is not that far off from Timbo/Danja sound.
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I'm open to whatever. She has a way of making a song her own no matter who she works with. It's just extremely funny to see people getting excited about this Frank E character and his biggest claim to fame so far is a song with FLO RIDA....LOL. But because we've barely heard his name it's OK and GREAT that she is working with him. Yet Timbo and Pharrell worked with many great artists before working with M but because she wasn't first they were automatically written off before anything was heard. But this is being embraced and it hasn't been heard simply because it's an unknown producer.....
and listening to his music on his myspace page, it is absolutely NOTHING new, fresh or innovative. It sounds like what is popular right now.
I'm not dissing this guy at all, I like Right Round but it's very current and sounds like a song many fans would be repulsed by. I'm just curious to see how this all works out....lol. BRING IT ON!!
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FUCK YEA!!!
BRING IT ON!!!
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Great post. I agree. If they had really left, how would they get back in time to get another picture of her sitting on the ground? I think if they actually left by the time they got back the ambulance would have taken her to the hospital, and they wouldn't be able to get a second picture.
Exactly! His story makes no sense. If he was the only one there and got "tipped off" directly after it happened, who the hell "tipped him off" THAT QUICKLY. Whoever tipped him off must've contacted him about the fall before her ass hit the ground in order for him to get back there and snap that pic. And if he was indeed "tipped off", wouldn't it had to have been one of M's people if he's claiming no other papz were there at the time?
I'm not saying papz are neccesarily to blame, but something isn't adding up about this guys story.
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Glad she seems to be ok!
Thank God it wasn't more serious!!
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^ COADF is NOT "trend setting" lol
That album didn't influence any moves in music pop culture in America.
Dance came back after COADF ran its course. If COADF was responsible for influencing anything in pop culture, the singles would have been better received at the time.
Everything you say is true. COADF had good word of mouth in the States I would say, otherwise it wouldn't have had the legs it did.....and the same can be said for HC too since it stuck around the charts almost just as long......but calling COADF trendsetting (at least in terms of US market) is more than a little uninformed I think.
I mean even the biggest hit off the album barely got played.The type of dance music that has become popular in the US since COADF has been more R&B oriented. Rihanna, Timbo, Justin, Nelly....that's who brought "dance music" back to Top 40 radio in '06-'07 in the US.
And fak you mention in your post "who was doing dance music before COADF?" .....MADONNA!!! She's never stopped doing dance music. From Holiday to Vogue to Music to 4 Minutes.....all of them were big dance and mainstream hits.
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So now even the homes she buys calls for nastiness directed toward her. You'd think she's moving to section 8 housing the way they talk about it. Geez...
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So it's gonna sound like most of her remixes of this decade? And how's that uncompromising, after all the complaints about HC by the hardcore fans?
Let's hope not!
I agree with you, based on these rumors it seems the sound will be nothing new for her. But it's still very early on and as we all know, most rumors at this early stage turn out to be B.S. If it's indeed true that it will be very "house" in sound then perhaps she is indeed going to cut a track or 2 for the GH with Pharrell. Spanish Lesson is the most "house" she's sounded to me (in original song interpretation) since the Erotica years. I would think that she just may have more of a continuation of the sound she explored on HC.....but then again, with the new tracks on IC we kind of got a preview of her "next sound" that she would be using on Erotica as opposed to an extension of the sound on LAP. Both JML and RM would've fit in just fine on the E album. So....it's M, you never know what's gonna happen, that's the fun part!
I'm open ears though. It just better be good! 
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Hard Candy is fun, but REFRESHING? it's about as fresh as 5 years ago.
It's not refreshing in that way really. But aside Madonna's more serious, introspective albums of the past 10 years (and COADF isn't as carefree as it pretended to be at first! That album has always had a dark undertone to it to me) it was refreshing to hear the return of fun, sassy Madonna for an album. It's totally got the spirit of her 80's work in lyrics (GI2M, Heartbeat, D2N, BGO). She's playful on CS and blatantly sleazy on the cover....it's great. Probably her most eye catching in a WTF
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The album was great a year ago and it still is. The comparisons to Loose and FS/LS are tired. Timbo has a distinctive sound, obviously she wanted that distinctive sound or it wouldn't have happened. DWRY is pretty reminiscent of Cry Me A River but other than that I honestly can't say that any of the songs on HC remind me of specific songs Timbo has produced with others. The Pharrell tracks were really surprising because aside from Candy Shop, the rest of his songs on the album don't really sound like stuff he would normally do. If I were forced to guess unknowingly I would say GI2M and SNM sound almost Stuart Price-ish.....but a little funkier.
One of her funnest albums. 8.5/10
Faves:
Give It 2 Me
Heartbeat
Miles Away
She's Not Me
Incredible
Beat Goes On
Dance 2night
Voices
All of the HC tracks performed on S&S except 4 Minutes work great live too!
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She does looks amazing but come on
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Was SNL psychic or WHAT
OMG! That's too funny.
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DAYUM!!
She looks effin HOT! Love the pants with the shoes and the jacket just sets it off. I've always loved her in leather!
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The top 3 couldn't be anybody else. It had to be those 3. Really you could probably justify any one of them being at number one for different reasons but since it is top "80's artists" I think it's pretty much perfect that Prince tops the list. This man writes, produces, plays instruments and composes every single piece of music that he has ever recorded, that can't be underestimated. Especially when he's creating stuff like his output from the 80's. I think while MJ may have been the most influential visually between he and Prince, I'd say Prince's sound and style has been ripped off and recycled continuously for 25 years now. As mentioned, Timbo, Pharrell would be NOTHING without Prince. In fact, I remember the first time I heard Until The End Of Time on Justin's album and before I heard anybody sing a note I thought it was an old Prince song. Last Night by Diddy was the same thing, the first time I heard it on the radio I thought "OMG Prince has a new song that sounds like his old songs and radio is actually playing it!!"
. And it is true that MJ was the biggest star of the time and that there really hasn't been anyone since him that has had that sort of impact. HE WAS MASSIVE and owned the 80's. MJ had some brilliant music back then, but again, he's more visual. Whenver you (at least I do this) hear one of his songs from that time you can't help but imagine the video that goes with it. MJ was also more "safe" with his musical approach whereas Prince experimented like a mad man and still came out with the goods.
As brilliant as MJ and Prince were, Madonna perhaps evolved the fastest as an artist between the 3. After all, it was "only" six years in between her first album and LAP. That's quite a musical evolution for such a small period of time. I'm not sure that there has ever been a more perfect run of singles by any artist before or since than Madonna's 80's single releases. Image wise, she was giving Michael a run for his money and just like him, I think that's how she's been the most influential.
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or not, too many divas in one room...anyway, what i still don´t understand is why she get rid of Stuart so quikly, it´s not her usual way to work
I suppose it seems that way since he was the main producer on COADF only. But, remember he worked with her on tour for many years prior and they did X-Static Process together on AL. Plus he still does mixes for her so they have actually worked together for about 8 years in one way or another at this point. For M, that's not too bad I guess!
M with Jesus, Lourdes and Steven Klein at Lady Gaga's show Saturday night
in ARCHIVE - Madonna
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The "negative" buzz surrounding Madonna when she hit the scene had to do with the fact that she made people uncomfortable, often times to the point of disgust.....the whole virgin/whore thing....and with the name Madonna....can't get much better than that really. Madonna's image fit with her persona and music she was creating at the time. Gaga's image seems to have nothing to do with her music at all. Any negativity regarding GaGa is because people seem to think she's pretentious, fake and just tries too hard to be "odd". Totally different I think. I agree with what I think you are getting at though and that is that Madonna's career has thrived on the whole love/hate thing with the public/media. But the buzz around GaGa is nothing like that IMO.
I appreciate the fact that she has made it pretty much on her own and has adapted this oddball sort of image that does stand out in a world of celebs who generally all look the same to me. They all want to be "Barbie" usually and it's boring. GaGa....as pretentious and "PLEASE LOOK AT ME!!!!" as it all is, is at least funner to look at and when you see a pic of her you KNOW it's her. There's no second guessing. Girl has got to work on the music though....it's Britney-lite at best.....which makes it unacceptable to listen to!
I find Blackout more "edgy" in sound than anything on The Fame.