madonnasuperfan01

Wow Darren Hayes went IN, i love it

Exactly I really hope a true left wing alternative will come up in 2022 (it almost happened this year with Jean Luc Melenchon and his France Insoumise movement) or the far right could end up winning.

Except that's not exactly what happened. Yeah most people voted against Le Pen (and i'm glad for that) but they certainly weren't voting FOR Macron. Even at the first round of the election, 40% of people who voted Macron did so to avoid at all cost a second round between the right and the far right, like it happened in 2002. That election in 2002 was traumatic for the left and people were terrified it would happen again, as polls were showing for months. So they voted for the "less right wing" candidate for the second round, that's all. Also the medias were pushing Macron HARD for more than a year, saying he was the candidate of "change", that only him could beat the Front National, that he was "young" and "dynamic"... It was extremely obvious that the medias and political establishment wanted to install Macron, since he was the candidate of Europe basically. This election was basically a remake of the US one, with Clinton (Macron) vs Trump (Le Pen). It only had a "happier" ending because of the way elections works in France. Le Pen never had a chance this year. Most people are NOT celebrating right now, they're only relieved that Le Pen was defeated. But Macron is going to be an extremely unpopular president (he already is) because his extremely liberal program is not what most French people want. He's going to destroy social security, privatize everything and make Europe's control over France stronger. In others words, he's exactly the kind of politician that makes Le Pen and the Front National stronger in the long run. If there's no other alternative in 2022, Le Pen could possibly win the election because people will have enough. This is only a temporary "victory", and this "victory" will have bad consequences for the country. I'm really scared of the future.

Spazz is a far right extremist, i don't understand why his neo-nazi mentality is even allowed here in the first place

Taking healthcare away from people, destroying internet freedom and advocating racism and fascism is better than Obama? Seriously? And this is coming from someone who don't like Obama at all. WTF is wrong with some people

I never knew some people on this forum were such far right extremists

Mainstream media is nothing but propaganda those days. I take alternative media over it any day.

Well, since the Republicans have complete power right now those things are not likely to happen. Voters all over the world are experts in voting against their own best interests. I mean a LOT of Republicans don't even know that Obamacare and the ACA are the same thing... Thank you for your message, it was an interesting read

What a surprise. As if we needed more proof that Le Pen was a fascist...

Tell me: why is the US so friendly with Saudi Arabia, if they care so much about overthrowing nefarious players? Saudi Arabia is the most fascist and oppressive country in the world yet the US treat them like good friends. For me that alone shows all the wars the US is doing all the time has NOTHING to do with overthrowing bad guys. It's all about control and money. I don't understand why more people in the US can't see it. The government (both Democrats and Republicans, there's no difference) always pretend all those wars are about "briging democracy to oppressive countries" yet they are best friends with some of the most oppressive countries on Earth. Complete and obvious hypocrisy. Unfortunately too many Americans just turn a blind eye to it, worse they gleefully vote for warmongers like Bush or Hillary Clinton. I hope it's gonna change in the future, i'm not too hopeful though.

Actually (sorry for being a bit off topic here) i think Fillon is scarier than Le Pen, both of them are far right wing lunatics. He voted against the decriminalization of homosexuality in 1982, that alone shows a fascist far right mentality. The French election is going to be a nightmare and there won't be any happy ending.

billiejean, i agree with you when you say that racism is not only for white people. There's a LOT of SJWs on Tumblr and the internet in general who are disgusting racists and they should be called out as such. As a left wing person i find SJWs and identity politics in general to be a cancer, they destroy the left and discredit it for a lot of people. That's what happened during the whole primary campaign, the Hillary campaign only selling point was that she was a woman. Vote for her because she's a woman, voting for Bernie is sexism by definition. That narrative was beyond pathetic and it was a disastrous campaign strategy for the general election. But it's also very important to understand that minorities are in a GRAVE danger in America right now. Yeah we shouldn't ignore hate crimes against white people but as i said we cannot act as if they're the ones the most in danger right now, that's just a fact. The Anti-Minorities God of White People has been elected US President, so white people are just fine as a whole. Minorities, not so much. Republicans want to act as if ONLY white people are victim of discrimination and they have all the powers in America right now. They're going to actively destroy minorities in the coming years by destroying healthcare, voting rights for black people, mass deportation of millions of immigrants (yeah Obama did it too and it was also inexcusable), keeping any muslim to go in America and take away gay marriage. White straight people as a whole are not going to lose anything. So my point is: yeah let's not be hypocritical and call out hate crimes evil and disgsuting no matter who the victim is. But let's NOT forget who are the people the most in danger right now in America and in the world. And that's certainly not white people.

Exactly. The world is becoming more and more unfair and there's a LOT of angry people who know there's a problem but haven't been able to identify it for what it is, so they vote for far right extremists who will only make things WAY worse in the future. There's nothing more dangerous than people who are both angry AND ignorant, America is indeed going to pay the price for it with Trump. I just hope it won't be too late to fix it in the future.

I think it's totally on point. Most Labour politicians are no different than the Tories at this point, they're even more hostile to genuine left wing politics than the Tories themselves.

This thread is sad to read, it really shows how divisive politics in general are. I think everyone can agree that hate crimes cannot be accepted, no matter where they come from. I think the reason why people are more sensitive when it comes to crimes committed against blacks, mexicans or muslims is because historically, those people faced constant discrimination, both privately and in the law, and there's still a LOT of racism against them today, way more than against white people. Trump's election is one example of that even if it wasn't the only reason he got elected. Same with the rise of far right parties in Europe like UKIP (i know UK is not part of Europe anymore but still) or the Front National in France, both extremely against minorities. This is quite a terrifying situation and we need to face it seriously. We of course don't have to turn a blind eye to crimes committed against white people, that'd be hypocritical. But context is important, mostly when one group is more vulnerable than the others. There is no political movement against white people in the world right now, but there is a huge political movement against minorities. Let's not forget that. I don't even understand why racism exists in the first place honestly. Hating someone else just because they have a different skin color or religion is just incomprehensible to me.