ruey Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I find some of them are debatable. The ones that class as rebel songs without a doubt Bitch I'm Madonna Unapologetic Bitch Illuminati Holy Water S.E.X Veni Vidi Vici The ones that I'm not sure about: Graffiti Heart Borrowed Time Queen Devil Pray Iconic Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graffitiheart Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Iconic, Graffiti Heart and Borrowed Time fit the rebel category Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmark Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 "Borrowed Time" feels more "Heart" to me.... But I would also nominate "Iconic' as a rebel song... And "Devil Pray" as one too because though she is trying to get better from the lyrics, it shows that she did go astray at one point, something that would happen to a rebel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rocco Papa Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I think some of them fit into both categories. Maybe this is part of the reason why Madonna chose to put them all together as opposed to a double album. As she has said recently, in order to be a rebel, you have to have a heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messiahxxx Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 It depends on what you consider "rebel", the term includes a lot of concepts. To me, while songs like Graffiti heart and Borrowed time could fit in the Rebel category because of the social unconformism of the lyrics, they feel more "Heart". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruey Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 Just reading these first responses already makes me swell up with tears. Madonna has truly created an album we can philosophise about For the sake of argument, I will just paste here the definition of "Rebel" I found on the Urban dictionary... I thought it was more fitting than official dictionary definitions. A rebel is a person who stands up for their own personal opinions despite what anyone else says. A true rebel stands up for what they believe is right, not against what's right. It's not about smoking crack, drinking till you're rendered unconsious, or beating the crap out of anyone that crosses your path. It's all about being an individual and refusing to follow a crowd that forces you to think the same way they do even if it means becoming an outcast to society. True rebels know who they are and do not compromise their individuality or personal opinion for anyone. They're straightforward and honest and they will sure as hell tell it like it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rocco Papa Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 ^That quote sums up the entire album for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonoka Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Well, lyrically I agree that the tracks are sometimes hard to separate into two groups. Just going by the sound though, I think there's quite a clear pattern. The Heart songs are mostly the more conventional, easy-to-digest songs and have a predominantly poppy sound to them. The Rebel songs on the other hand are much more in your face-type of songs with a sound M has not explored that much before - Dancehall, Hip Hop (you can argue she's been there before, but definitely to a much lesser extent than with pop music), Dubstep etc. (and thus the more polarizing reactions by fans and critics compared to the Heart songs)... So going by those factors, I think that's how I'd group the songs: Heart: Living For Love Devil Pray Ghosttown Hold Tight Joan Of Arc HeartBreakCity Body Shop Inside Out Wash All Over Me Messiah Rebel Heart Beautiful Scars Borrowed Time (Queen) Rebel: Unapologetic Bitch Illuminati Bitch I'm Madonna Iconic Holy Water Best Night Veni Vidi Vici S.E.X. As for Graffiti Heart and Addicted, I think they could go either way...but Graffiti Heart sounds more heart to me while Addicted sounds more rebel to me. The only one I have no idea about is Auto-Tune Baby...it sounds too crazy to be a Heart song, but kinda too 'tame' to be a Rebel song. Maybe that's another reason why those songs were released as bonus tracks, they don't fit the Rebel / Heart concept that well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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