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    Dictator Trump / US politics thread 🚽

    in Politics and World Events

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    13 minutes ago, Martin B. said:

    “Don’t be afraid of COVID!”

    Say that, big pile of shit, to the 210,000 families who have lost a loved one since last spring in the US, many of which did not have access to health care.

    I have said it and I will say it again: I have never hated someone so much in my life.

    I feel the exact same way.

    I've never hated someone, let alone a politician, quite in the exact way I HATE this evil man.

    Telling people to not be afraid of the virus when he has socialized medicine and access to the best care and treatments. FUCK. HIM.

    Dictator Trump / US politics thread 🚽

    in Politics and World Events

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    A White House Long in Denial Confronts Reality

    The tight quarters of the West Wing were packed and busy. Almost no one wore masks. The rare officials who did, like Matthew Pottinger, the deputy national security adviser, were ridiculed by colleagues as alarmist.

    President Donald Trump at times told staff wearing masks in meetings to “get that thing off,” an administration official said. Everyone knew that Trump viewed masks as a sign of weakness, officials said, and that his message was clear.

    “You were looked down upon when you would walk by with a mask,” said Olivia Troye, a top aide on the coronavirus task force who resigned in August and has endorsed former Vice President Joe Biden.

    In public, some of the president’s favorite targets were mask-wearing White House correspondents.

    “Would you take it off, I can hardly hear you,” Trump told Jeff Mason of Reuters in May, then mocked Mason for wanting “to be politically correct” when he refused.

    ............................

    Kevin Hassett was a top economic adviser to the president in May when he became one of the few to break the unwritten White House rules. In a television interview, he said that he found it “scary to go to work” and that “I think that I’d be a lot safer if I was sitting at home than I would be going to the West Wing.”

    Hassett, who left the administration over the summer, told CNN on Friday that he was criticized at the time for publicly expressing concern.

    https://news.yahoo.com/white-house-long-denial-confronts-151248201.html

     

     

    2020 U.S. Election

    in Politics and World Events

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    20 minutes ago, Barbie said:

    You really think the next debate is going to be any different than the first? This is Trump we're talking about :rotfl:he will continue to hurl insults at Biden and Biden will continue to bend over for him. It's disgusting. We need someone with balls to stand up to that idiot. 

    Look, I'd love some serious claps back on twitter...but I highly doubt that's going to make a significant amount of people show up at the polls. Even these debates are a ratings failure compared to 2016. Trump's reception from the first debate wasn't even good. Most felt the 1st debate, as a whole, was a failure, particularly on the moderator's inability to moderate, and on Trump acting like a maniac. Most voters have probably already made up their minds.

    I get the whole 'we need someone with balls', 'stop bringing a knife to a gunfight' criticism. I do. and I've been saying that myself for years. But where is this magically strong, ballsy, perfect candidate everyone's always going on about? I mean, if they were out there, their supporters didn't show up when it mattered (the primaries). This is what it is, and we got who we got. It's a useless gripe at this point.

    Dictator Trump / US politics thread 🚽

    in Politics and World Events

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    55 minutes ago, Cyber-Raga said:

    I would not put it passed him that he is only pretending to have COVID so that he can later claim “it’s not that bad, the liberal media is lying, go back to work and school, ...”. However, on the other hand if he has it ...


    If Trump and then at some point Pence are knocked out (I don’t wish for anyone to die, even these assholes), and they can’t attend to their jobs, Americans will have President Nancy Pelosi until January 2021. 

     

    1 hour ago, ctg12 said:

    He really wants out of the other two debates doesn’t he?

    Sorry, but I am suspicious of anything he says. 

     

    It's either that, or as Cyber-Raga said above, when he "recovers", he'll use it as a way to downplay the virus through more lies and propaganda, and his base (and all those already thinking Covid is a hoax) are going to have a field day.

    Dictator Trump / US politics thread 🚽

    in Politics and World Events

    Posted

    6 hours ago, Cyber-Raga said:

    Is this Berlin 1933 or what the fuck is going on here?

     

    5 hours ago, Jazzy Jan said:

    They are beyond words. How on Earth can this be happening in 2020. 

     

    Because this is basically the Republican party base. They've spent decades pandering to this demographic, slowly but surely, convincing not just racists but in general poor, uneducated white people that they are still better than everyone else, and that all their problems are someone else's fault (aka evil, satanic liberals). And that they (Repubs) are the only ones that can truly give them the America that only they truly deserve.

    2020 U.S. Election

    in Politics and World Events

    Posted

    1 hour ago, rebelheart said:

    Fancy having to choose between Trump & Biden, no wonder American's don't vote...:madno:

    Sadly, it's that mentality that has us in trouble. Joe might not be the ideal candidate (hell, who even was this time around), but if folks can't see the obvious differences between Trump and Biden (no matter how imperfect he may be), and aren't already motivated to vote purely on stopping Trump's blatant insanity, then they are already a part of the problem.

    Dictator Trump / US politics thread 🚽

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    3 hours ago, Jazzy Jan said:

    Proving that yet again people that support Trump just excuse him for everything.  A guy I know who is always rightfully saying that it is disgraceful that multinational corporations and millionaires pay hardly any tax,  is actually defending and praising Trump for not paying tax.  Says that anyone would do that and Trump is a true maverick etc.  Says it shows he is smart even though Trump has been bankrupt as well several times.  How can someone have one opinion and rule for everyone else re tax evasion yet defend Trump passionately for exactly the same thing.   

    Because 1. it's a cult. Trump's base (and what he appeals to) isn't run-of-the-mill conservatism. It's basically authoritarianism/neo-fascism combined with an utterly bizarre cult of personality. People just suspend all logic and reason (of course, if they had any) when it comes to him because he validates something within them. And 2. I think there's something in exactly what you described that actually appeals to people. People always say one thing, but do another. And with Trump, they see the person who kind of gets away with it all, and something in them actually admires that. For anyone else, probably not...but for him, yes. There's a sort of validation in it for them.

    These are folks who also have been fed a steady diet of right-wing propaganda (aka Murdoch press, Fox News, etc.), now overlapping with the conspiracy theory fringe that they get a steady diet of online. They live/worship their "God"/raise families/etc. in these bubbles, and over time can no longer tell fact from fiction. And Trump has been made out to basically be their savior.

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