VogueMusic
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The girl was a brat. And she was set straight. But to continue to bait and antagonize her with something like that picture of the straight up psycho from the NRA....no. Just no. We are not 'little monsters'. C'mon now...
And newbies, with barely a handful of posts, being belligerent to established members and telling them to 'chill the fuck out' may not exactly be the best way to start your time here at MadonnaNation.
Just sayin'.
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On 7/2/2019 at 9:21 AM, Ghost Town said:
And Gonzalez has the nerve for wanting Madonna to apologize to HER when she herself was in the wrong. I doubt we'll ever get an apology from this misinformed millennial.
Technically, she's "Generation Z".
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I still don't know quite how to articulate my full feelings for this record...because it's that good. No...downright phenomenal. Nearly 40 years into the game, and she puts out one of her finest records, let alone her most experimental. I'm still taken aback at what I'm listening to each time I play the album. And how many new little details I uncover from each listen. Without exaggeration, there is SO much to uncover in these songs it's almost too much. And then there's the visuals, which, lets' face it, are her best in nearly two decades...but sit perfectly alongside her career best. And then there's the very concept of the record which also continues to reveal itself through each listen. Good god. It's actually overwhelming.
This is truly a special era that the likes of may not quite be seen again for a long time. So I'm going to cherish every moment of it.
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12 hours ago, impr3ssive_instant said:
This isn't about Madonna but I thought it would be appropriate here because it mentions a lot of what we've been discussing. Jack White criticizing Pitchfork and similar clickbait publications. Look at the last paragraph...
Now that is a brilliant read.
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10 hours ago, Shaun said:
An integral part of the album! Batuka is so necessary and beautifully constructed. A true reflection of the global influences that run through the album. When the drums intensify the moment she says "let me catch my breath," I find myself catching my breath.
This!!!
No other in popular music - young or old - could pull off something quite like this. It's a reminder (not like we needed it) that she's on a whole other plane than her peers.
11 hours ago, rocknrolla said:I notice many of the songs on MX are too long and repetitive, I tend to skip them at the 4 minute mark
That's one of the things I adore about this album. The music gets to develop, take its time...I've always enjoyed long songs. A shame that attention spans are next to nothing these days.
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What's sad about it is that of all the people who really could/should have 'gotten' what Madonna is trying to do with this video, it would be someone like her (even if the content is too disturbing for her given she's a survivor. Understandable).
Not to mention Madonna used her voice on an actual song...an actual MADONNA song. Obviously we get the significance of that more than someone of her age, but to at least show a little gratitude... c'mon...
Not the first time these kids have caused themselves issues with their comments, so to speak. I think they have a ways to go in understanding how to navigate being public figures.
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On 6/25/2019 at 4:37 AM, Leebf said:
I wouldn't be shocked if the whole thing was planned and orchestrated by the 'Christian lobby' to be a legal test case so that they can argue religious discrimination. They knew he had already been warned about this before so i wouldnt be shocked if they told him to do it again and they will support him and ensure if he was fired they would help him take legal action against the firing.
Its obvious that the motivation is so that the christian lobby can try and win the right to be allowed to legally descriminate against the LGBT community! What a farce..arguing that they are being descriminated against so they can then be allowed to in their eyes legally descriminate against a group of people you condemn!
I am just worried that if they win this test case it may allow the extreme religious groups out there to be able to fire and exclude LGBT people from their schools etc and then it could become worse it may open up doors to allow religious fundamentalists to be able to refuse service to LGBT people as it is against their religion (whether it be in shops, or their hospitals etc it could open up a whole can of worms). This is why they want this case to go to court. I could be wrong and it may just be all about him getting his $5m back as this is the amount the new fund campaign is requesting and i thought that was the exact amount that he lost when his contract was terminated.
If you read any news site or Facebook post there are so many comments supporting him and religious freedom plus claiming descrimination and how they are sick of the snowflakes and madness and lefties ruining the country and the minorities dictating how everyone else has to live...no we aren't trying to ruin the country we just want everyone to be treated equally like everybody else without being persecuted.
They are just sad they cant be bigotts anymore. This world is going into such a bad place people are trying to take away euqal rights for minorities and it makes me sick that these people can't see that and that minorities are not trying to change the world for the worse we just want everyone to be respected and treated equally no matter who they are.
THIS.
There absolutely is an agenda behind it. The progress that has taken place in the last couple decades has terrified them, I think. Here in the US, marriage equality passing was the kicker (not to mention a black man in the White House for 8 years), I think, that sent their side panicking, hence the "Religious Liberty" battles that started up. The 'powers that be' on the right know how profitable and valuable that religous/conservative vote is. It's their bread and butter so much that the most un-Christian thing - Trump himself - buttered up to those folks, and they ate it right up. US, Australia, etc...they want ultimate power. Period. Western liberal democracy be-damned. It's clear to me, within my lifetime, that they don't simply want a seat at the table...they want to dominate it. That's the literal ideology - Christian Dominionism. Never underestimate how low they will sink for power. The Handmaids Tale (even in a watered-down sense) isn't an impossibility if these types gain too much power. (Look at what they're already trying to do with abortion laws in the US).
On 6/27/2019 at 3:46 AM, Leebf said:@Jazzy Jan amazing article. It soeaks the truth. But im so worried our cause is lost...everyone is on the religious persecution train and lets get rid of the pc brigade that i fear pro religious freedom laws will get introduced to allow my community to be persecuted and hated but those that persecute us are protected by law. Where is the fairness & equality in that. I fear that since we won the marriage equality vote i fear the religious nuts are out for revenge
Spot on. Painting themselves as the new persecuted minority is a major tactic...and it's effective. It's how Trump rose to power - treating a certain portion of America like they were the minority, and the liberals were the new bullies. And sadly, thats become far too easy to do now that they have used the far-left to paint all liberals/liberalism/democrats as being this PC boogie man. That's why as much as I am no fan of political correctness/cancel culture/purity culture/etc...I've become more careful of getting sucked down that rabbit hole of only focusing on the far-left like too many do, even using the "SJW" moniker (as it was essentially coined by the right-wing). It's actually not even close to being the majority of liberal/independent views... but they paint it that way. It's all tactics. Anyways, I'm rambling...
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On 4/13/2019 at 4:19 PM, Jazzy Jan said:
Great points you make Paul.
I agree that it is important to know what people are thinking as ways to discuss and debate with them. Unfortunately though, there seems to be a lot of people now somewhat applauding ultra extreme right wings views which includes homophobia, racism, sexism etc and seems to have make it more acceptable for these people. Fraser Anning for example - have read too many articles saying he has the right to free speech and supporting him and he mentioned the Final Solution. It is pretty chilling that they can still support a man that utters those words and see him as being correct. He is also openly anti-gay and wants to overturn the yes to gay marriage vote as well. I have noticed more and more people saying incredibly bigoted things now than say 4 years ago. Not sure exactly but almost as if their extreme and hateful views have become more " acceptable" now. Probably coincides with also how many with those views are in political parties now.
A lot of people have changed their views over the years for the better too of course.
Agree too on the way children are raised. If they are told and taught from a young age to be be homophobic, racist, have no respect for women etc, they often just carry that through their life as that are the opinions they have heard since childhood. Many do change their views but many don't.
I don't think it's any coincidence that a lot of countries showing a rise in extreme far-right/neo-fascist views are those with major media networks run by Rupert Murdoch (or those that function like his). A slow and steady diet of right-wing propaganda sold as "news" has warped far too many minds. Legitimately frightening.
On 6/25/2019 at 1:11 AM, Jazzy Jan said:See where the Australian Christian Lobby has taken over the fundraising and now have over a million dollars.
Sad where SOME Christians would rather give money to a millionaire sportsman who uses religion to excuse his intense bigotry and homophobic views than to sick children who desperately need funds It is tearing many Christian groups apart too with many horrified that they are being represented by extreme groups. Also startling is how wealthy so many ultra conservative right wingers are.
That describes the US in a nutshell. Sad to see Australia going down this road.
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10 minutes ago, Je5u5 said:
This is...interesting.
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1 hour ago, boy skeffington said:
There is no win for Madonna here. The shit and hate come from all sides. It must be suffocating. I think her goal is just to tune it out and that’s wise. Even this Emma tweet, while so sadly misinformed, is noise - cue tmz story in 3,2,1. It’s attempt is to diminish and vilify Madonna. Sadly hate prevails in this world now.
They’d all like to cancel the “rich privileged” pop star who didn’t self destruct, isn’t a drug addict or a victim and continues to fight for love, freedom, human rights.
Madonna is an easy target and really can’t defend herself without that being a target too. This era has helped me accept the hate she gets from everywhere and accept she will not be universally loved likely again until long after her death.
She’s too powerful. The easy choice for Madonna would be to walk away, hide away. She very well may end up doing that and I can’t blame her. Directing films must be such an artistic escape for her.
I swear as a man in his early 40s I feel hopelessly sandwiched between the generation above me which gives us straight white men in charge of everything (rage, oppression, hate, bigotry) and the generation below me so helplessly disconnected by their “connection” and ownership of everything that sucks the air of joy and freedom out of everything they touch.
Perfectly stated.
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1 hour ago, side_streets said:
Oh, well.
Madonna seems to be the worst human ever.
A shame...but not surprising.
As much as I applaud these kids for leading a much-needed revolution...they're still young. And reflections of their time/generation...and have a lot to learn about certain things (let alone how to articulate themselves as public figures now). As for feeling generally uncomfortable with the video because of her experience, that's understandable. Wish she could see what M is trying to convey even if she can't stomach the content (understandably).
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I'm excited as hell, but knowing this fandom, I'm also preparing for the meltdowns now...
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Fuck these two assholes.
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What is there to say that hasn't already been said about this one.
What a delicious little gem on such a heavy album...and it works!!! Never would have guessed.
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It's a perfectly splendid bonus track.
And I love that contrast between the lightheartedness of the production with the sincerity (and sadness) in the lyrics (particularly the name-checking).
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7 hours ago, Crystal Coffin said:
I am a bitch and many love me
Well..........
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Besides the incredible narrative and message...on a more superficial level, I'm just astounded at the level of production design on this one. They really spared no expense and paid attention to every detail. All the elements come together so beautifully (in something so horrifying). That lighting in the club (OMG), the way it hits those costumes, the choreography and staging...in contrast to the apartment writing scenes. The two distinct looks for her...not to mention the impeccable editing on this one. And of course the backwards narrative...the first gun shot striking up the beginning of the song shows the shooter blowing his own brains out... The whole thing is a goddamn work of art.
And to think that some thought her video 'game' was kind of over years ago...and then she hits us with one of her very best - ever - nearly 4 decades in...
fuck.
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2 hours ago, rocknrolla said:
I'm sorry but that song sucks so bad it cannot belong to a great album. Similar to Jimmy Jimmy with true blue.
Overall that review was pretty positive otherwise
1 hour ago, rocknrolla said:Killers, I have to agree with the majority of the reviewers on this one.
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15 hours ago, Shaun said:
No other pop star would dare in today’s cancel culture. This video just reiterates Madonna’s place as our most culturally-significant entertainer. She is creating a much-needed conversation about gun legislation under the guise of pop music. She makes people think. She makes people debate. She could rest on her laurels, head to Vegas, perform her beloved hits, and record a covers album. Instead, in the fourth decade of her illustrious career, she serves us a visual feast like God Control on a platter. She releases an album so forward-thinking and experimental that even the most seasoned critics are left to catch their collective breath. She takes the road less traveled by. And thank God for it. What would we do without her? So next time you feel like bitching about an outfit, grills, or a collab you’re not feeling, take pause and appreciate that the most important star in our history is still here, creating, evolving, shaking things up, and expressing herself in new ways. God Control is an example of a pop goddess in her prime...long after her “prime.”
Stone cold TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!
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5 hours ago, boy skeffington said:1 hour ago, rocknrolla said:
"In a way, the savior complex, incoherent political message and lack of self-awareness on display here are all very authentically Madonna"
These "critics" can literally fuck off.
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Actually, Ciao Bella truly does sound phenomenal coming right after I Don't Search I Find, and even closing out the album. If that's not for you, perfectly fine. But snide remarks aside, it is something quite special for those of us who do hear the magic in that transition. It's the perfect lift after the quite heavy journey that is the rest of the album.
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Speechless.
I want to write an essay, but I'm just.....speechless.
She has more fucking balls than her entire industry, media and politics...combined. Good-fucking-god.
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59 minutes ago, Amelia said:
Shit is probably going to hit the fan in the U.S. when the gunslingers get a whiff of this.
Good.
57 minutes ago, Shaun said:I have a feeling we’re in for quite a ride after the video premieres tomorrow. Hope everyone in this fanbase is ready!
This.
Brace yourself now. She ain't playing safe this time around.
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The colors, the lighting, the fashion, the looks...EVERYTHING!!!
I am ready NOW.
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THIS a million times over!!! I can't get enough of it.
oh, and the @dubtronic extended mix is EVERYTHING.