VogueMusic
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Besides most having probably had a major impression on her personally and/or professionally...I feel like there's a sense of naming people who particularly were lost before their time. Those who, if not for tragic circumstances or illness, were taken from us too soon, and really had so much more to give. And we're missing something because of it. That's my impression to most of the names listed.
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11 hours ago, Flip The Switch said:
No. This song is perfect because the man is on the 99% of the song.
Exactly. Personally, I find this need to always want to get rid of all her collaborators just silly to me, especially on any work concerning this album. This is how she envisioned these songs, and considering how they have all turned out, it's clearly for good reason this time around.
And part of the magic of this song is her taking a bit of a back seat and allowing Kimi Djabaté to shine. In fact, not overdoing it with too many lyrics and allowing the music to shine.
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On 7/14/2019 at 10:38 AM, Shaun said:
The tour is an enormous, integral part of the era. New looks, staging, set list changes, tour merch, daily reports/news/videos from fans, periscopes, traveling, filming rumors, concert film release, live album. All of that is still to come. Plus the Batuka video. What are you on about?
On 7/15/2019 at 8:44 AM, Kurt420 said:Madonna promoted the album for 2 months straight. We have FIVE music videos at this point.........COME ON!
Let's say Madonna was focusing heavily on album promo instead of tour rehearsals....then come tour time when everything isn't 150% everyone will be like "she didn't rehearse enough". Give the woman a fucking break for once. My God.
I said this long before the album was ever released but these days, no matter what she does, it's NEVER *quite* good enough. ALWAYS needs to be something more.
Bingo.
While we would all love more (who wouldn't), and while I would have loved to see a few more live performances...I can see the overall approach she is taking with this project (and specifically this kind of album), and I think it's been pretty fantastic so far (at least from a fan perspective). As said above, times have changed, the industry has changed, and her approach at this stage of life and career is starting to have a focus that it lacked a bit in the last couple eras. Always room for improvement, but I've really enjoyed the rollout this time around, with something new to look forward to almost every other week. I would love to see it go on for another month, but album cycles are short these days (even for many top artists)...and I think the internet has made us want more, more quickly.
And it's been clear for the last decade, or two (even), that M's main focus is the tour now. I've long accepted that. And considering that's where the bread and butter is for (essentially) a legacy artist that isn't going to get a fair shot on the charts any more, it makes perfect sense. We've talked about it many times here before, that we're going to have to change our approach/expectations/and more when it comes to her career at this stage.
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Surprise, surprise...
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An interesting and scary read about who is shaping policy -
The ‘Religious Freedom’ Agenda
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10 hours ago, Martin B. said:
Will he eventually disappear from our lives? I have the impression that his toxic and dangerous presidency has lasted for 10 years, even though it's not even 3 years. His toxicity, his total lack of empathy, his mythomania and his stupidity infect each day a little more the world political order. We will have for decades to get rid of the damage he has done to democracy.
THIS.
Equally as terrifying is the effect on validating the extreme fringe, not just in the US but the world over too. These folks who think they know the actual 'truth', what is 'real news' vs 'fake news', what is or isn't free speech, etc....... people so deep down the rabbit hole of conspiracy and insanity it's literally terrifying. There is no reasoning with these people. Sometimes I slip into a masochistic moment and look at the twitter feed of one of his followers, and it just blows my mind how insane these people are. Even the folks not at the core, but those who you would think have some sense of reason that are just won over by him and everything he stands for... like the Scientology of politics. And even if he was gone, they're still going to go for what he represents. I think we're at a point where there is a certain amount of people that truly want to live under fascism. Full on fascism.
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2 hours ago, johnpaul911 said:
What version of Madame x has all 18 songs on it? I want all the songs!!
The hardcover 2 disc deluxe with the dark hair/guitar photo as the cover.
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There’s been praise for “God Control” from gun-control advocates as well—March for Our Lives thanked Madonna for “using your platform”—but the generally mixed response is typical of the strange spot that the Queen of Pop finds herself in 14 albums into her career. Though patchy throughout, Madame X has a claim as the most adventuresome, politically bold work in her catalog. But unforced errors and clumsy attempts at creating conversation have complicated what could be a triumphant chapter for her. Her insistence on communicating often in the crudest, most blunt terms have proved a distraction, yet again.
Oh FUCK The Atlantic.
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15 minutes ago, Jazzy Jan said:
Love this too. Madame X has many songs that get better the more we listen. Lots of layers to a lot of them. Come alive is one of them. Joyous song.
YES!!! This album is all about layers.
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The repetition of the choir singing "Come Alive, Come Alive" is one of the best parts of the song to me. Heavenly and euphoric.
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9 hours ago, V.K said:
Madonna right now is at her most inspiring . Literally every sour bitch , including "fans " of this disposition is telling her to stop or do it some other way , they're spreading lies , try to re-write history , projecting their most personal fears on her, misunderstanding her work or deliberately misinterpreting it , is talked about with disdain ,disgust and disbelief ALL the time... and she keeps going !
I'm tired just listing these things , I don't know how she does it , she seems superhuman . I need this right now, someone to look up to for perseverance ( and as the song goes , it is indeed increasingly hard to find someone to admire ) . I love and respect this woman from the depths of my heart . Madame X is a teacher ( and great achievement of a record ) .
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35 minutes ago, XXL said:
Although I think HC, MDNA and RH are three distinct and separate scenarios and I wouldn't carelessly lump them into the so called trend chasing department
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1 hour ago, neeto_mosqueeto said:
LOL at “established members”. I don’t mean to be rude but the original poster was condescending and asked people to chill out, and furthermore you can join him or her.
I’m not here to kiss established members’ asses.
I’m here to read and contribute to Madonna’s work. Discussing Madonna’s critics, for better or worse, is part of it. Unfortunately, the reason this is different than a Pierc Morgan is because this Emma “brat” LOL, as you call her, is part of a Madonna song and video. Sorry if you don’t agree with other opinions because they’re not from “established members”. I don’t agree with your passive aggressive, condescension, or mother hen ways. So don’t mind if I ignore your opinion on this issue.
Also, belligerent? LMAO. Are you not entertained? LOL. If your delicate nature can’t handle it, skip to the next thread, princess. Hope that’s not too harsh for you.
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3 hours ago, smeowly said:
anyone see this? https://www.facebook.com/groups/SGMadonnaAssociation/permalink/346186109407092/
apparently monetxchange felt she was being used as a prop in god control. she doesn't explicitly say it, maybe for contractual reasons. maybe thats why she never tweeted about the video when it was released.
I adore Monet, but being an extra was probably obvious when she got the call to join the video. Her disappointment is her own fault.
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5 hours ago, dubtronic said:
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I stand firm in my belief that Ciao Bella deserved a place on the actual album. It's pure magic.
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27 minutes ago, Wunderkind said:
They basically split her career into three parts. Albums where she brilliantly combined risk and pop mainstream (LAP, ROL, Music, COADF), albums with which she went to far for the mainstream but were loved by the fans (Erotica, American Life), and albums that seemed defensive, trend chasing, trying to make up for lost grounds (BS, HC, MDNA, RH). Madame X won’t move the masses, but like Erotica and American Life, it’s an album that will ensure the love of her fans.
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50 minutes ago, Martin B. said:
The most under appreciated song on the record. Future is the perfect summer jam.
THIS a million times over!!! I can't get enough of it.
oh, and the @dubtronic extended mix is EVERYTHING.
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The girl was a brat. And she was set straight. But to continue to bait and antagonize her with something like that picture of the straight up psycho from the NRA....no. Just no. We are not 'little monsters'. C'mon now...
And newbies, with barely a handful of posts, being belligerent to established members and telling them to 'chill the fuck out' may not exactly be the best way to start your time here at MadonnaNation.
Just sayin'.
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On 7/2/2019 at 9:21 AM, Ghost Town said:
And Gonzalez has the nerve for wanting Madonna to apologize to HER when she herself was in the wrong. I doubt we'll ever get an apology from this misinformed millennial.
Technically, she's "Generation Z".
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I still don't know quite how to articulate my full feelings for this record...because it's that good. No...downright phenomenal. Nearly 40 years into the game, and she puts out one of her finest records, let alone her most experimental. I'm still taken aback at what I'm listening to each time I play the album. And how many new little details I uncover from each listen. Without exaggeration, there is SO much to uncover in these songs it's almost too much. And then there's the visuals, which, lets' face it, are her best in nearly two decades...but sit perfectly alongside her career best. And then there's the very concept of the record which also continues to reveal itself through each listen. Good god. It's actually overwhelming.
This is truly a special era that the likes of may not quite be seen again for a long time. So I'm going to cherish every moment of it.
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12 hours ago, impr3ssive_instant said:
This isn't about Madonna but I thought it would be appropriate here because it mentions a lot of what we've been discussing. Jack White criticizing Pitchfork and similar clickbait publications. Look at the last paragraph...
Now that is a brilliant read.
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10 hours ago, Shaun said:
An integral part of the album! Batuka is so necessary and beautifully constructed. A true reflection of the global influences that run through the album. When the drums intensify the moment she says "let me catch my breath," I find myself catching my breath.
This!!!
No other in popular music - young or old - could pull off something quite like this. It's a reminder (not like we needed it) that she's on a whole other plane than her peers.
11 hours ago, rocknrolla said:I notice many of the songs on MX are too long and repetitive, I tend to skip them at the 4 minute mark
That's one of the things I adore about this album. The music gets to develop, take its time...I've always enjoyed long songs. A shame that attention spans are next to nothing these days.
“Batuka” music video
in ARCHIVE - The MADAME X Forum
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Just when you think you've seen it all from her, she takes it to the next level.
Spiritual, uplifting, awakening... I can't even begin to describe the many emotions it makes you feel...all at once. Combined with absolutely stunning cinematography and direction, it says so much while being so very simple.
As for any issue with her performance in it vs the tone of the song/video, I have no issue and buy it completely. The Batukadeiras are not about wallowing in the darkness, they're about bringing the light to it. They use call-and-response, and dance, to convey their message...and it's clear that it is supposed to be infectious and inspiring to the listener. Madonna is the bridge between what she experienced with these women through her exploration and travels, and now bringing it to us, the audience. So her movements and her physical expressions (joy and rage, pain and inspiration) all make perfect sense. Not to mention the women themselves are seen in both moments of reflection, pain and joy throughout the video. The song may be dramatic, and have a sense of darkness...but it's actually about rising about it. It's that contrast that makes it work.
As for any comments out there about "appropriation"...they can rightly fuck off. It's clear these women have allowed her into their lives, so much so as to go on a world tour with her. And the video places the women front and center, while she takes a step back and highlights them (as she has done for so many groups/individuals before). This is exactly how it's supposed to be done...I WILL NOT buy any argument otherwise - because there is none.
We keep saying it, but it deserves repeating - she is operating on a completely different level than her peers, past and present. Always has, always will. This entire project has elevated that truth even more so. Nearly 40 years into a career...who else at present? NO ONE.
ps. Those last shots with them staring out onto the horizon, hands clasped, with the ghosts of slave ships fading away.....
