VogueMusic
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This wait is killing me.
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So who's going to place a bet on Lola sucking Brahim's cock at some point?
I bet he's thought about sticking his cock down her throat. I would be keeping an eye on them if I was Madonna. lol
Yikes you don't have to be so graphic about Lola lol
:dead: Y'all are killing me.
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*cough*Elvis*cough*
In fact did he write any of his songs?
And weren't most of his songs written by black artists...?
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Thanks for posting. It's an interesting article. but I don't like how it repeats the usual stuff about that she's not that great a singer and she doesn't write her own songs. It repeats the usual tired stuff that she's just about business and marketing and reinvention etc. Journalists don't get that a lot of people happen to like what it is she's marketing. You can't fool people for 30 years with just business gimmicks. At the end of the day, she successful because people love her music and her performances.
It just pisses me off. They never really want to give her full credit for anything. There are plenty of male artists, particularly in other genres like rock, that don't write everything themselves, or had influential producers or writers shape their body of work, and they're given applause for it. Madonna does the same, and yet the judgments and expectations on her are somehow so different - just marketing and image. Like you said, you don't last 30+ years on just marketing and image alone. How many writers, producers, DJs, designers, choreographers, directors, etc. have to come out and say how involved she is in every detail of what she does...on a level they've never seen with any other artists? It's like the media just has fingers in their ears and doesn't want to listen. Sometimes I wonder, is it because it's pop/dance music, or is it just because she's a woman?
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Lucky Star, Burning Up, I know it, Think of Me, Everybody has her as the sole writer I believe. I do believe that Madonna gets the most joy from performing her songs and bringing her songs to life in a visual way which is why I never never understand why she hasn't combined her love of film with song longer than the videos she once made. I think Madonna does have a way with words and a keen sense of sound but contrary to what most believe I don't think she is as confident as she portrays. Being a perfectionist and maybe critical of herself I can see her happily collaborate with someone else if they help her realise her vision for the song and that it met with the approval of someone she admires.
Whats funny about Madonna is the perception of her compared to the perception of other artists. I grew up loving other artists but always took for granted that they did everything. They wrote all the words, they played all the instruments, they did everything. When I look into different artists who get automatic respect I find that a lot of them collaborated with different people to write songs, write music. It's taken as a given that they work alone and are praised. Nobody even questions it or more telling, they don't care. I find out that people I just took for granted worked completely alone actually have had co writers.
There are some that do work alone and if that's what makes you happy as a musician than I respect that. Some are introverted and prefer to do things alone. Others are more extraverted and enjoy working with others. The thing is Madonna also might be were she is today because she is open to criticism and hearing other points of view.
THIS!!!!
I find the artists that I like most are the ones that did NOT do everything by themselves.
And a lot of the ones that did everything by themselves often become stale and start repeating themselves...mostly due to what seems like a massive ego, as if collaborating with others is beneath them.
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"Fever" is literally one of my favorite Madonna songs.
Should have been a much bigger hit.
The fact that she hasn't dusted off the song in a while is just sad. And I have a feeling this is a song that she probably still enjoys.
I could have seen it right after Vogue in MDNA's masc/fem section (though I do love "The Erotic Candy Shop"). I could also have seen a really funked up version in the pimp section of Sticky and Sweet in place of Human Nature.
She's got to pull this one out again.
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It has been pointed out before, the problem with Mileys performance is that it looks completely inauthentic. And this has nothing to do with the fact that she was the cute, innocent Hannah Montana character that she wants to get rid off now. No, it's rather that the whole twerking and tongue thing looked like she has absolutely no idea what she was doing at all. Or the whole thing was her idea of what "sexy" is supposed to look like. In result it was a sexless and therefore dull performance and it made it all very uncomfortable to watch. It was flat out mechanic and lacked of emotions. If she tried to seduce someone she failed big time. I guess a lot of people were rather, ewww back off bitch, don't get anywhere closer. Any stripper in a redneck village is more seducing than she was.
Exactly. This is what I was trying to say too.
Love Camille's points in this article
Madonna doesn't come from a factory, that's the whole point
Take her even at her most controversial with the SEX book. It was never about "famous global singer sheds all clothes" and makes loads of money from it (which she also did of course). That book was all about cultural politics. Had she been a Miley, Cristina or Britney, she woudn't have lasted this long. And outlasted 90% of her 80s peers (with the exception of U2, Depeche Mode, Springsteen) and everyone else who followed in the 90s and 2000s
Some of these girls think I'm gonna wear a black Latex suit and an S&M mask or shoot fireworks/cream off my tits and that's me being Erotica or BLOND AMBITION Madonna, controversy. No it's not. But most of all Madonna is a serious musician which you can't say for most other pop acts, male or female
And once again, XXL hits the nail on the head.
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That's interesting.
I don't think she was being negative about Madonna on a personal note but just giving her opinion on the MDNA tour. That's her opinion and obviously she feels the freedom to express herself about it now that she's not part of Madonna's circle.
Not sure how I feel about the Kabbalah thing, I suspect Madonna is just very pushy/opinionated and probably forced her ideas on people but I don't imagine it was a "become a Kabbalist or we're not friends/you're fired" type deal. Stuart Price said in IGTTYAS he didn't even believe in God and Madonna continued working with him after that. Donna is very submissive from what I can tell too, probably found it hard to say no upfront to someone like Madonna.
That's sort of gross that they lied about the Truth or Dare cameras. The stuff she said about Hollywood is perfectly understandable and the stuff about not wanting to be skinny too and wanting to make the music she wants to make. I totally respect what she's saying. She comes across as quite a grounded in tune person to me.
Exactly. She was honest and respectful, while still having her own point of view. She's always been that way too. Nothing negative here at all.
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But comparing Madonna and Miley is like comparing apples and oranges. Miley is far from the entertainer Madonna is. I guess at this point, I really had no expectations. I didn't see it as a "mess". I think that's quite subjective anyway. I know a lot of people who followed her as Hannah Montana were a bit put off by her stage antics. For me, I never was really interested in who she was as a child star. I also don't believe she's trying to appeal to those sort of people anymore. I also got the impression, that the whole performance was simply staged for Robin Thicke's benefit... to lead into his song. I honestly believe it was meant to come off wild and ridiculous. Those up and arms over it, are taking it too serious. Also, it never cross my mind to compare her performance to Madonna's. Two different artists.
Nowhere did I say Miley is anywhere on Madonna's level...and that was not even the point. The point I was making is that her "performance" was a fucking mess. And yes, I can say 'mess' because that is what it was.
But by bringing in Madonna and Britney as reference points for outrageous sexuality used in VMA performances...and I was basically responding to what the media has been doing by making the comparisons... Miley's was a mess - in terms of concept, staging, choreography, etc.
I could care less about her previous Disney image...I could care less about the Robin Thicke aspect.
As I said before, I have no problem with the crazy party girl twerkin' schtick. I don't. But If you are going to do it, make it something of quality.
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I have to say, I thought it was the most depressing spectacle of the evening. She was both artless and graceless and, tyoical of the 'reality' TV generation, the only thing she had to say was 'LOOK AT MEEEEE!'. For those in any doubt of that look no further than her crowing over the Tweets per second record during her performance. I think it's safe to assume that we're probably looking at the next Paris Hilton, rather than the new Madonna.
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I actually really really like this design.
I do too!!!
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I LOVED this artwork when I first saw it.
Yeah, the images picked could have been better...but I love the concept.
And that's what M's packaging has lacked...real concept.
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But that's the thing, and Bluejean hit it on the head... there's nothing wrong with doing the 'good girl gone bad' shtick. Fine. Just put together a performance that is actually good, well choreographed and staged, etc.
I feel like so many seem to think that we're criticizing Miley for wanting to shed her past image. No, we're not. She wants to grow up and get rid of that...fine!
Just put together a better performance. Because the other night, it was a fucking mess...and no where near the level of what M or Brit have done in the past.
And if people think it's all the same thing, than my my how the bar has fallen.
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^Was it? I have the itunes version of the W.E. soundtrack, so...
Amazon CD-R for the W.E....weird. I'm surprised that soundtrack got that kind of release.
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Who the fuck would want that? We can just buy it on iTunes and burn it ourselves
I know, it's sounds kind of ridiculous. I could be a bit wrong on exactly what it is and how they do it, but I remember looking for a hard to find disc that I thought might be out of print, and Amazon had it...but only through this CD-R program thing. So I read up a bit on what it was, and thought, hmmmm, that's kind of weird.
I guess it makes sense for out-of-print things though.
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So is the CD going to be released in the US after all?
And that the fuck does this mean?
"This product is manufactured on demand using CD-R recordable media."
Amazon has a somewhat new program where certain music items are not sold as manufactured by the record company. They give Amazon essentially the digital files (or something like that), and Amazon burns it to a CD-R for you (if you order that particular item that way). I know, sounds ridiculous right...thing is, the CD-R thing Amazon is doing is usually for very rare, or out-of-print music items. I have yet to see it offered for a new release like this, particularly something that is already getting a professional physical cd release overseas.
Weird.
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She's having fun with a little teeth jewelry. Relax. They're not permanent.
And as someone else said, it's amazing that this woman can get such press for wearing some grillz, at the age of 55, in between projects...other pop bitches wish.
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WHy dont they just release the same thing everywhere at the same time....
It is confusing, isn't it?
I'm just waiting until it's actually in the stores, then I'll get my Blu-Ray. Then maybe order the physical cd as an import (since I'm in the US).
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Yes, a lot less of fake screaming audience.
You can find it on madonnachile (I don't know the policy about posting torrent links for yet-to-be-commercially-released-material here)
Interesting. Do they have a link to just the audio...or is it only video?
I highly doubt different markets are going to get different versions. That would just be...weird.
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Holy crap he looks just like his mother!!!
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They had a Lady Gaga piñata
Seriously....?
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The HD Japanese broadcast version kicks ass !
Is this the MDNA tour? Is it any different than the EPIX version, in terms of sound, etc....?
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A live concert mastered for a CD is different for a live concert mastered for a dvd. Audio rip from dvds are usually shitty no matter how loud the music is.
That is usually true. But I've noticed with several "live cds" I have of fairly recent concerts, the sound seems no different than the mixing for the Blu-Ray/DVD. Like the engineer or record company was just lazy and just ripped it from the film. I think some artists get lazy and do that.
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The crowd noise in the Epix Broadcast version is way to loud... but the mixing overall seems better there.
The crowd noise is lower in the Epix webstream version, and the sound effects (like during Vogue) are louder... but the overall levels are a bit off.
I wonder what we'll get with the DVD and Live CD......?
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Madonna fans are so beautiful. The difference in seeing Madonna fans vs. that other group (in that other thread)... they couldn't be more different.
Just beautiful.