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  1. 24 minutes ago, Bitch I'm Christian said:

    America was smart enough to dump Trump after one term. We've given THREE elections in a row to awful conservative governments! There'd better not be a fourth time lucky for them...

    You know damn well that man is coming back. Even if he loses reelection he's running and his fugly mug will be everywhere. 

  2. 14 hours ago, Raider of the lost Ark said:

    I think someone should give those conservative women a dose of their very own medicine and have them face the consequence of their doing. I'm waiting for a situation a man stands up and tells them to be quiet and move into the kitchen to cook and take care of the household and the children. Isn't that the place they belong to in their own worldview, isn't that the place their god wants them to be? Who do they think they are? A woman should not have any say in politics, a woman should not even have a say in her own life. A woman is meant to give birth and to be of service to men. Women think otherwise? Because there are laws or amendments to the constitution. Well, that can be changed. As we see right now. And the irony is, all of this with the support of women. 

    There is no consequence for them. They have the money to just go to a state or country that allows them to do this in private, quietly and without anyone finding out. 

  3. 17 hours ago, Michael. said:

    The US is honestly on another planet. The whole country is unhinged. Between this and QAnon, conspiracies, election fraud claims, Fox News, the whole country is fucked. I feel like they’ve gone up over the edge and there is no saving it. Imagine it being 2022 and legislation regarding interracial marriage or access to birth control is even up for discussion. What the fuck. 

    It's not necessarily true, though. It's not the whole country and that's what's so infuriating. It's a minority that controls the country and makes these decisions, and that's the problem. Look at this, which I think it does a good job at illustrating at a high level just how bad this is: 

    Mother Jones on Twitter: "By 2040, roughly 70 percent of Americans will  live in 15 states with 30 senators, while the other 30 percent, who are  whiter, older, and more rural than

    I feel hopeless. And I can't help but feel like we're swinging so far and fast in the other direction because a powerful and strong minority were SO angry and felt SO threatened that a pro-gay, pro-marijuana, pro-healthcare for all BLACK man won the presidency. Literally, 1 man who stood for everything they've used to hold down the minorities and control our population blew up in their face and they have made sure to use every sneaky trick they have in their evil book to make sure they make continue to hold us back for at least another generation.

     

  4. On 4/5/2022 at 1:48 AM, Kilt said:

    Yesterday, RIA Novosti, the Kremlin media mouth piece, published a lengthy piece titled "What Russia should do with Ukraine", which explains in detail what Russia understands by denazification. It's truly horrific:

    ☠️ The special operation revealed that not only the political leadership in Ukraine is Nazi, but also the majority of the population. All Ukrainians who have taken up arms must be eliminated.

    ☠️ Denazification means de-Ukrainianisation. Ukrainians should no longer have a national identity. Denazification of Ukraine also means its inevitable de-Europeanisation. 

    ☠️ Ukraine's political elite must be eliminated. Ordinary Ukrainians must experience all the horrors of war and absorb the experience as a historical lesson.

    ☠️ The liberated and denazified territory should no longer be called Ukraine. Denazification should last at least 25 years. 

    Link to the English translation of the full article: https://ccl.org.ua/en/news/ria-novosti-has-clarified-russias-plans-vis-a-vis-ukraine-and-the-rest-of-the-free-world-in-a-program-like-article-what-russia-should-do-with-ukraine-2/

    What the fuck the “article” is even crazier than the points you highlighted :wacko:

    Anyway, those pictures above are horrific. It’s so frightening to think we now live in a world where a few countries can do this or what ever they want and we all have to sit back and watch helplessly in horror instead of helping because it’ll just make things worse. 
     

     

  5. 4 hours ago, runa said:

    The only romanticized idea is to think Putin really wants to negotiate. THAT is what is ROMANTIC.
    After 1 month of war, it’s pretty clear that’s not what he wants and he has other things in mind. His ideas of negotiations are: here is what I want, you surrender and give it to me or we’ll keep attack you. It’s all smoke and mirror.

    So yes, I get why they fight for the country and stand for their beliefs.

    Did I ever say any of this and did I ever insinuate that I do not get why they fight for their country and / or beliefs? 

    Geez, I can't with you angry people.

  6. 3 hours ago, runa said:

    A bit of sanity, here, thank you very much.

    If Russia invaded Canada I would want my country to fight for his sovereignty as much as he can, as long as he can. And of course I will pray for help from my allies. 
     

    Putin hasn’t won yet. It’s way more difficult than he thought it would be. Ukrainian men are an inspiration.

    How is this sanity? You're all romanticizing this idea of "fighting to the death". 

    Ukraine standing up to Putin is wonderful and inspiring, but also if they WERE to reach a compromise (giving up more regions to Russia / agree not to join NATO / whatever) as a means to end this horrific bloodshed and destruction I wouldn't blame them one bit. 

    It's so easy for all of you to say this. You don't have to "pray" for allies, you're part of NATO it will happen automatically. Ukraine is alone.

     

  7. On 3/13/2022 at 12:10 PM, CzarnaWisnia said:

    I did and do condemn Putin's invasion (though it would have likely happened with whichever leader in his place), I do support the freedom of choice of the Ukrainian people (including the freedom of choice of the Ukrainian people living in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions), and I am not throwing blame around but trying to understand the situation, which is more complex than "PUTLERRRRR!!!"

    "THAT MIDGET" :wacko:

  8. An article about a good friend of mine and her family still in the Ukraine 😕

    She Left Ukraine Years Ago — but Her Sister's Family Faces the Invasion: 'I Cannot Believe This Is Their Life'

    Half a world away, Liz Tursi waits for updates from her loved ones: "[My niece] says when she wakes up in the morning, sometimes she's not sure for the first few seconds if she's alive or not"

    By Virginia Chamlee and Amy Eskind
    March 03, 2022 09:39 AM

    Liz Tursi has lived in the U.S. for almost her whole life, but she still feels her heart pulled almost halfway around the world to Ukraine — where her sister, brother-in-law, her niece and her nephew are now stuck in their small village as Russian invasion unfolds.

    Tursi was born in Kharkiv, Ukraine, near the Russian border, immigrating to the U.S. with her parents when she was 7. Her sister, Oksana, 13 years older and a new bride, stayed behind.

    "Ever since I was old enough to help her, I've been encouraging her to come here with her family," Tursi, 36, said in a recent interview with PEOPLE. "She's never shown any interest, never agreed to come visit."

    Tursi now lives in South Orange, New Jersey, where she oversees sales operations for an academic publishing company. Oksana lives in a rural area in Ukraine with her husband, Gena, her son Ruslan, 29, and her 19-year-old daughter Elizabeth.

    With Russian forces advancing around Oksana's family's country, they have had to take shelter and are sometimes "trapped in their house" with no indoor plumbing and dwindling food reserves, Tursi says. But they remain deeply tied to their homeland, even with the dangers.

    "[Oksana] tends to be stubborn, and even now she categorically refuses to listen about going anywhere, leaving, trying to get to Poland," Tursi says of her sister. "I have friends in Poland who would be willing to help. I also have friends who have family in France who would be willing to help, but they are so insistent on just staying where they are."

    Tursi says Ruslan has considered volunteering for the Ukrainian military but Oksana, who works as part of a janitorial staff in an elementary school, has been trying to talk him out of it. Oksana's daughter, Elizabeth, stayed at her boyfriend's home, a few blocks away.

    None of them have left their homes since the fighting began late last week, Tursi said Tuesday.

    She says her sister's family is located "very close to the blasts" they can see explosions and hear gunfire from inside their home.

    elizabeth tursi

    From left: Liz Tursi; Tursi's niece, Elizabeth; and Tursi's sister, Oksana, in 2010 in Kharkiv, Ukraine | CREDIT: COURTESY ELIZABETH TURSI

    "My niece said that she doesn't sleep at night," Tursi says. "She naps during the day but is way too afraid to go to sleep at night. She says when she wakes up in the morning, sometimes she's not sure for the first few seconds if she's alive or not."

    Meanwhile, Tursi says she's scared for her family but finds herself without many options all these thousands of miles away.

    She says she was able to successfully wire her sister money one day prior to the invasion on Feb. 24, but now that the fighting has begun in earnest there's little else she can do.

    "They have nowhere to really go," Tursi says. "There aren't any relatives or friends or anyone outside of Ukraine that they know that can take them in, so that prospect of leaving your home is scary. To go where? And also the solidarity that they have with their neighbors, and their country — they don't feel right just trying to escape, I think. In their particular neighborhood, no one has left."

    While not leaving might keep them safe from the conflict, it's been a challenge in terms of procuring necessities, Tursi says.

    "My sister told me that she had tried to step out and get food and was turned around by [Ukrainian] military ... so they are basically living on whatever reserves of food that they have. Right now the only people who are allowed outside are military and police, anyone who's volunteering to be in the military," Tursi says. "Random citizens are advised to stay home."

    Stuck in their home, the family is communicating to Tursi via Instagram direct message and watching the news when they can. (The internet, she adds, "is on and off.")

    "I don't see [Oksana] emotionally falling apart, but I don't see her as super resourceful," Tursi admits. Even if her sister's family decided to leave, she says, it would be a challenge to get out, as moving around is potentially dangerous and the waits at border crossings are hours long.

    Tursi says she hasn't visited Ukraine since 2010 — yet found herself deeply affected by the images of the invasion.

    "I considered myself disconnected from the country and really felt American, but when this happened my heart just broke," she says. "I'm very proud of the people and the way they are handling it — how strong they are and how resilient they've been. I'm so proud of the president who hasn't given up and who continues to stay and is trying to keep up the morale among all the citizens."

  9. 10 hours ago, Jazzy Jan said:

    If Putin invaded Canada,  would you want Canada to negotiate with him and most likely be forced to give him much of your land or would you want to fight to protect your country ?  Seeing so much footage of people from Ukraine despairing about Putin and Russia changing their entire lives with his cruel and undemocratic regime,  why should they negotiate with a brutal cruel dictator.  It is their country,  not Putin's to invade.  So bizarre to see people who live in democratic countries expect Ukraine to just give up their much cherished democracy to go back to times that were supposed to be firmly in the past.  Plus you can't negotiate with power hungry control freaks like Putin.  

    You could literally cross out Canada and replace it with Palestine/Syria/Etc. And according to your logic Israel is a brutal dictator (I actually agree with that). 
     

    “How is this relevant” you might ask? Because countries / people ARE expected to “negotiate” and give up their land or be bombed by the west so not sure why you’re acting all shocked. 

  10. 15 hours ago, air1975 said:

     

    Initially you said I was twisting your words. I asked you to specify where exactly I twisted your words. You are unable to do so.

    Now you are making a bullshit/vague claim that I was being passive aggressive. I have no problems being upfront - so there really is no need for me to be passive aggressive. But its your opinion - you're entitled to it. I disagree w. your opinion. 

    OMG thank you so much for letting me be entitled to my opinion. 

  11. Just now, air1975 said:

    What are YOUR thoughts about Putin's decision to invade Ukraine? Do you agree with it? Do you think its wrong?

    Where in the world did I ever say I support this monster? I think he's bullshit. I think the US is bullshit. I think every imperialistic power that uses other defenseless countries as a proxy to show off who has the biggest dick and grow their influence on the world's resources / riches is bullshit. 

    My heart goes out to the people of the Ukraine and I'm sorry if I came off as insensitive. Maybe I have to wait to give my opinions because people like you twist my words to make it seem like I somehow support fucking Russia. 

    I have been on this forum for over TWO decades and I have seen so many people on this very forum either sit back and defend the US or flat out not give a flying fuck when the US has done EXACTLY THE SAME AS RUSSIA over and over and over and over again.

  12. 2 hours ago, elijah said:

    Again shifting the discussion I see. Ukraine is the theme here. If u want to discuss how evil US has been since ww2, open another topic. And really linking 70ties Nixon to 2022 Putin? Really? We are talking about Europe here and not some local war, but one of the nuclear powers invading its neighbour.

    How is it not relevant? It’s clearly the never ending US vs Russia proxy war nonsense that’s been going on since forever. 

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