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Nightshade

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  1. 1 hour ago, GOD said:

    For a lot of people The number 1 issue, is the economy. And it was doing better under Trump. It's shit under Biden. You see people tried 1 term of each, and most was better off during Trump's era, so they remember that and would rather have that. 

     

    That is actually not true. Vox wrote a good article on that topic with charts: https://www.vox.com/politics/24094752/biden-trump-strong-economy-2024-inflation

    The perception is that the economy is shit because of the residual inflation (which was due to the pandemic and subsequent supply chain disruptions more so than Trump or Biden policies). But the stock market, unemployment rate, wage growth, etc. is all doing better under Biden. I realize perception is key, and even if it is a false perception, it could cost Biden the 2024 election. I would still rather have him than Trump. Trump didn't really do anything except pass a tax cut for the wealthy and stack the Supreme Court (as well as the federal judiciary). The GOP doesn't even have a real policy platform anymore.

  2. 1 hour ago, karbatal said:

    Yes but the other two are dictatorships or oligarchy without any respect for human rights. And they don’t give lessons around about democracy and human rights. 

    It begs the question: Who would you rather be the global superpower? It's one thing to complain and another to offer an alternative. I am not justifying anything the U.S. does, and I actually don't think a majority of U.S. citizens are ok with killing civilians, but I am not sure what the answer is. I don't know Biden, but I don't think he's cheering the deaths of anyone. I don't know any government in the history of this planet that hasn't killed people. I think it's just an unfortunate reality.

  3. 12 hours ago, karbatal said:

    Especially USA. Their foreign policies are simply a horror for humanity. Kissinger alone was devil on earth 

    I don't disagree with you, but every superpower would do what's best for them. There are no good alternatives even if the U.S. wasn't as prominent as it is. China? Russia? Those foreign policies would be even worse (IMO).

  4. On 11/24/2023 at 11:52 PM, karbatal said:

    Actually I think people vote AGAINST and not PRO. They vote Trump so “leftards” go to hell. They vote Milei for the same. They don’t care about the political program. 

    I think there is some of that in the U.S. but that's largely a narrative from the media. Most people who lean right but aren't necessary Kool Aid drinkers, are so fed up with everything I think they believe shock treatment is the only option remaining. Unfortunately, that is not going to help them.

  5. Alarming. But being from a country that elected Trump (and may yet again), I've come to the conclusion that the masses will not find the answers they hope for in these idiots, but they are so desperate for a massive change in society's structures, they are willing to blow everything up and see where the pieces fall.

  6. Democrats actually had a pretty good night on Tuesday (November 7).

    • Ohio (a fairly red state that went for Trump in 2016 and 2020) voted to enshrine abortion rights into their state constitution despite Republicans' best efforts to defeat it.
    • Ohio also legalized recreational marijuana by a wide margin.
    • The Democratic governor of Kentucky, Andy Beshear, won re-election - in part by running on abortion rights (in a red state!).
    • Democrats flipped the Virginia House of Delegates and kept their majority in the Virginia Senate. This has pretty much ended Republican governor Glenn Youngkin's 2024 presidential aspirations.

    I would take all this pearl clutching with a grain of salt. Not that anyone should be complacent in the Biden circle. However, the GOP appears to be doing everything they can to lose. Abortion rights continue to be an effective weapon against the GOP, and their boy, Trump, is responsible for Roe v. Wade being overturned via his three Supreme Court justice appointments.

    I'd rather be Biden right now than Trump.

  7. On 5/26/2022 at 2:54 PM, Junior said:

    The Senate is basically Republican controlled with fake Democrat Manchin. They refuse to vote in favor of nearly every single thing from him and Democrats. They’re worse than they were during the Obama years.

    I think it is a little more nuanced. Manchin is from West Virginia and the only way a red state like that would elect a Democrat is if they were kind of Republican too. He voted for the recent Supreme Court justice which at least keeps a liberal in that seat. If we had a true Republican in the Senate (in Manchin's place), nothing would get passed and yet another conservative would be on the court which is already a pathetic 6-3 in favor of the right wing.

    I feel like if liberals really want to win, they better start moving to red states and voting for the blue team. The blue states are doing the best they can with our current political structure.

  8. 20 hours ago, Paul said:

    It puzzles me how a country that likes to tell all other countries what to do in relation to human rights, womens rights, etc thinks it OK to keep living in the dark ages where women cant decide about their own bodies and kids cant go to school without fear of being shot.

    You say that as if we are a single, unified mind. We've been struggling with those topics ourselves of late. But I guarantee you blue America is quite progressive on human rights and women's rights. Unfortunately, the way power is distributed in this country, the red (rural and religious) parts are able to unbalance the system, stymie progress, and even win all branches of government from time to time.

  9. On 5/3/2022 at 6:12 AM, Jazzy Jan said:

    I am surprised more American members are not in this thread.   This is truly taking the USA back decades in the worst possible way if this happens.  The way these judges can change and dictate rights of American people so easily is terrifying.   Women's rights are being eroded completely all in the name of religion if this is overturned.  I hope more people now wake up to what ultra conservative religious people in power can and will do.  If this does not wake people up, then nothing will. 

    I can't speak for every American in this forum, but I do think there is a feeling that we're all in a burning car heading for a cliff and no one knows what to do. That is certainly how I feel. I felt confident that after 4 years of the terrible "experiment" that was Trump, that he would be swept out in a landslide. Not so. He actually gained votes - and a lot. I think we are all at a loss of how to save our country. Maybe we will separate into two separate countries? All I know is that this path cannot be sustained. It's not going to end well for America.

  10. The sad thing is America seems to vote with more of a "throw the bums out" mentality as a knee-jerk reaction not really considering the ramifications of going back to the horrible alternative. I guess we like learning the hard way. If the GOP wins in 2022 (midterms) and again in 2024, I think we may see a genuine attempt to establish a permanent, authoritarian regime under the guise of a faux democracy. The pendulum keeps swinging that way harder and harder. 😟

  11. 5 hours ago, karbatal said:

    And what do they think after none of their theories happen? 

    It's quite astounding but most just move on to the next "prophecy." I am sure some of the QAnon followers get frustrated when these things don't come true (i.e. Trump being reinstated as President in August), but on the whole, they just move like mindless husks to the next proclamation. It's unnerving to think that 56% of Republicans believe QAnon is partially or completely true. That's not an insignificant number.

    Not to sound like an alarmist, but something like Nazi Germany could definitely happen in the U.S. if this continues abated. I actually have people in my own family now who believe the Democratic party is controlled by Satan and that they should prepare for war. It's like something out of the Twilight Zone.

  12. 2 hours ago, LSD said:

     

    This is the legacy of FOX News and right wing talk radio. For two generations now, they have been poisoning the minds of about 40-45% of the population. And it works. Unfortunately, for those brainwashed by the "Democrats are the enemy" message, all their victories are Pyrrhic.

  13. 12 minutes ago, dollhouse said:

    Im worried about Arizona and Nevada where Trump is gaining

    If they go to Trump, Biden is cooked..

    I am not as worried about Nevada. I think most of what is left is mail-in and someone from the Nevada Democratic Party said that has heavily favored Biden thus far. If he wins Pennsylvania (also likely right now), he doesn't need Arizona. And some are saying Georgia isn't over yet either. 

    I guess we will see. Fox News (of all places) seemed pretty confident about Arizona for Biden. They actually do have a good analytics team.

  14. 3 hours ago, elijah said:

    But it’s better to have a normal person ruling rather then trump fanning the flames of racial hatred and division. Biden would work with fbr to fight the neo nazis rather than stay away cause there are good ppl on their sides.

    Oh totally. Don't get me wrong, the fact that Biden will be President (99% sure anyway), at least most of us can sleep at night. AND I am hopeful he will elevate promising Democrats into his cabinet and advisor positions (Buttigieg, Abrams, Castro, etc.). I am more excited about the doors he will open to the talent of the future.

  15. The odds are very good that Biden cleans the table with the remaining outstanding vote (aside from North Carolina and possibly Georgia - although the trend lines look good).

    I am happy with that victory but it has come at a terrible cost, and the fact that Trump got millions of more votes over 2016 just shows you that 60 million American are completely ok with the last 4 years. This is no longer a minority party in the sense that close to half the voting public would probably support an authoritarian regime even if it was the Fourth Reich.

    This isn't going away. These people are furious and violent (not all 60 million, mind you), but enough of them to cause chaos in the future. America has a very long way to go, and it's like to result in a further weakening of the Union.

  16. 1 hour ago, JR! said:

    That's awesome.

    Yeah, the feeling of anxiety in the U.S. is palpable. There is a part of me that is thinking (optimistically), "This is not 2016, and it will be different this time." And then the other half thinks, "This is it. Prepare for the biggest stink bomb 2020 has to offer...re-election of Orange Mussolini." 

    Keep us in your thoughts, my international brothers and sisters. 🥺

  17. 1 hour ago, Martin B. said:

    I hope with all my heart that Biden wins, but unfortunately, like in 2016, the media totally overestimates the polls. People lie to pollsters and the samples are no longer representative of the actual population. The same polling problems have been observed in many elections for the last 4 years all over Occident. I hope with all my heart that I'm wrong and be able to open the bottle of champagne I bought to mark the day this POS loses.

    Many pollsters modified their modeling after 2016 to account for some of that, however, you are right that the polls are only as good as the honesty of those being polled (and many may support Trump but aren't willing to say it). Some of the good news I am talking about is the increased voter turnout. In some swing states, Democrats are returning mail-in ballots at a much higher rate. Of course, that advantage can easily be wiped out by GOP voters on Election Day, but we'll see. In places like TX and GA (traditionally Republican states), turnout is much higher than 2016 and generally speaking, higher turnout has traditionally benefited Democrats. But again, I know it's not a done deal.

  18. Not to make anyone feel complacent, but the data does seem to show a convincing Biden win. I think people are just scarred by 2016, and we obviously have a lot of chicanery going on with the Trump campaign already (lawsuits to deny ballots, slowing the Postal Service, etc.).

    No matter who wins, there is going to be a firestorm.

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