Michael.
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WOW, What a pile of flop fans!!!!
Madonna has not incremented the top ticket price for this tour($350,00).
She could charge like $500,00.
I remember us that Barbra charged $1000,00!!!!!!!!!!!! And no one bashed her.
Madonna Tickets 10/6 10-6-2008
Monday
7:00 PM Madison Square Garden in New York, NY $87 - $10000 Buy Sell
http://www.stubhub.com/madonna-tickets/?os...home-page-lb-p2
Look at the other top ticket prices for other shows.
Vegas $5000
Montreal $8000
Atlantic City $6500
Boston $4000
Philadelphia $4500
That's where all the best tickets have gone. As I already said I've not read anywhere where a fan has got anything better then Row 13 from any of the sales. I don't believe for a second that their is anyone else involved in this deal beside Live Nation + Stubhub + Madonna. How else did Stubhub have all the best tickets *BEFORE* they even went on sale.
Live Nation uses Stubhub as a front to sell tickets at inflated price. Madonna and Live Nation come across "clean" because it's not them who are charging astronomical prices it's those damn "scalpers." The profit gets split 3 ways. Stubhub makes a profit on the % of the ticket price as sold on their site. Who in turn give Madonna a flat fee + a % too (on top of what she earns from the face value of the ticket already) and Live Nation makes a killing as the original seller of the ticket. Sinister in my opinion, at the end of the day it's the fans who get screwed over.
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From scalpers who obtained them either from Live Nation or Ticketmaster or possibly the venues themselves.
How is that possible? Why couldn't fans do that?
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From what I've read about the various shows on sale already ticket sales have been fairly lacklustre. Not one city has had additional dates added yet due to "demand" and if you look at the itinerary they've definitely left dates free for more London, New York and Paris shows at the minimum. I feel like it's bittersweet vindication for her snubbing Australia again with this tour. She ignored a market where demand was HUGE and she would have had no trouble selling out how ever many dates that she wanted. Compared to the US the Australian economy is booming too so we would have easily been able to afford her astronomical prices.
Some people here and at other various boards [iCON] keep defending her great business skills and her "genius" partnership with Stubhub etc but personally I feel like it's one misstep after another with this tour. I don't feel like there is one thing going right. The selling of the tickets has been a mess. Prices are way too high for the shit tickets that seem to be on offer which is outweighing demand. Also the seating charts conflict for each venue, I think I've seen about 4 or 5 already, and half the people who've got tickets aren't completely sure where they are sitting yet. The PR for her deal has gone wrong and instead of announcing it on her website (considering the deal is only about her promoting Stubhub and thereby receiving a share of the scalped ticket profits) the online news media reported on it first. As a consequence a deal which may or may not have been completely innocent has now left a great proportion of fans out of place and wondering if she only sees them as big fat dollar signs. To make matters worse it was days before anyone from her camp made any mention of the deal and right now the only damage control I can think of has been the "article" placed in People. AND FURTHERMORE all the great tickets for the show are somehow only available through Stubhub or Ticketmaster auctions for prices WAY above any average fans reach. ($10,000 is the top ticket price I believe for front row at NYC)
Smart business woman I think not. How ever is in charge over at Live Nation or Warners or who ever the fuck is supposed to be managing her at the moment should really pull there head out of their asses and start getting on top of things before they get worse then they are already.
That said I'm still going to do my best to see her this time around but that's only because I haven't had the chance before. Had I seen her already I'd probably be in the same boat as a lot of other people and would be waiting for the DVD.
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This is my "valid point"
It has been explained that the tickets selling on Stubhub are tickets that have been purchased by the public and stubhub does not actually have any tickets themselves. My question is where are the tickets coming from if they were listed before any other sale?
Secondly if these tickets don't actually "exist" yet and stubhub is only listing tickets they assume the public will resell on their site once the general sale begins why haven't any tickets for the first 10 rows or so been removed by now? Not one die-hard fan who has tried to buy tickets in any kind of sale to the public has managed to get anywhere near these kinds of tickets. (I think the best I've read so far was about row 13) Are we to assume scaplers bought these tickets in the pre-sales and general sales before any fan managed to get anything in the same sales and are now selling the tickets on stubhub?
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I cant believe some of you who LOST RESPECT for M because of her business dealings.
She is NOT here to be charitable to her fans. Were fans because we choose to be.
Any =so called= fan @@e x p e c t i n g@@ charity...go see MC
tickets for her are less than 2 dollars.
I can see the anger , truly , but the facts are M is in this game to make $.
She is NOT here to please our fancy. HER WORK AND HER ART SHOULD BE ENOUGH>
Im grateful Im even living during this ICONs years!
This has nothing to do with being charitable. She is purely ripping fans off with this tour.
And of course she is here to please her FANS and people in general. People won't buy something they don't like. No matter who it is. If she was so deluded in thinking that she is making "ART" for "ART" sake then she should have released the album online as a FREE download. If she is going to charge people, and charge them the prices she is, she better fucking hope she is pleasing the fans.
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HOPEFULLY
Los Angeles and Las Vegas
If all goes as planned.
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Nothing from Ray of Light except maybe NRM. Nothing from Music except Music (and if she is going to perform it at least mix it with a current dance track not one thats 2 years old) Nothing from American Life except Easy Ride. Nothing from COADF except HU (and not the shitty "rock" version) and GT. I could do without Holiday, LIB, Vogue, LAP, Borderline.
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I'm seriously looking into going to the US to catch a show. Every tour I always say to myself she'll come next time and she never does. I originally planned to go on a holiday this year to the US but I scrapped it. I might go afterall. My only dilemma now is to try get a good seat. I don't want to spend all this money and end up sitting at the back of the fucking arena/stadium!!
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Live Nation response about Madonna tour in Japan and Australia.
Our reader Joseph from Sidney contacted Live Nation about Madonna's Sticky & Sweet Tour in Japan or Australia.
Here is the response from Live Nation:
"Hello Joseph, and thank you for your enquiry.
Unfortunately, there is no plan for her to play either Japan or Australia this time out. The tour schedule is Europe and North America, and has been set."
From drownedmadonna.
Does that mean Mexico/Sth America has been scrapped too? They make no mention of it anymore on the Livenation site.
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Personally I feel it's the principle of the matter. Sure there may not be a way to avoid scalpers but it's not like she needs the money. The fact she's made a deal to profit from them seems unethical to me.
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Well, maybe she'll do what she did for the Drowned Worldtour, where she didn't come here, but she STILL gave us an overpriced 2 disc TOUR EDITION of her 'Music' album!!!!!!!!!! THANKS M!!!!!!
I know some people who bought that, when the opened the cd case, they physcially got slapped in the face by her!!!!!!!!
MADONNA THE KWEEN!
LOL
It's sad isn't it. I seriously thought we were a sure thing this time. Like 100%.
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^Which should remind some complainers here that she just did a free concert in New York & Paris not to mention doing another one in London. If you are such a "devoted" fan. Than don't be LAZY & what in line to get into a promo show for free!!! You are paying to see the greatest performer in the world. If you don't want to pay the price than DON'T! NO ONE IS MAKING YOU BUY TICKETS FROM THIS SITE! It is an option for those who choose. If you are a fan & want to insure you get a good ticket @ reg price get an ICON membership or d don't claim to be a huge fan & complain about her not catering to her "fans" when you aren't even making an EFFORT to get them at reg price! It's not like you couldn't get one if you wanted to. GEEZ PEOPLE! It's very clear she is going on more tour because of her live nation deal. If you can't see her this time SAVE UP FOR THE NEXT ONE!
You seriously can't justify this by bringing up the fact she did 2 free 30min shows for what 1000 people? And how can you make a statement claiming that fans aren't even going to the "EFFORT" of getting good tickets? There is so much wrong with that statement I don't know where to begin.
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I'm not surprised Croatia was canceled
Why is that may I ask?
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WTF?
This is really low. This whole tour is turning out to be really lame.
Seriously GREAT WORK Madonna.
What makes it sad is people defending her and saying what a great business woman she is.
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Just noticed on the live nation site the background image of the map doesn't even bother to show Australia. Things aren't looking good. Seriously wish they could just say yes or no.
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I just like to add I'd love it if the tour is broadcast/DVD from ZAGREB!!
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& just go 2 AUSTRALIA!
but the US is where the money is I guess
Not true, right now EU is where the money is. The US $ is way down. $1AU = $0.90US or there abouts so she can't use the currency value for not touring Australia as she did with DWT and RIT.
I'm really shocked there has been no mention of Australia. I really thought after CT and her apology to Australian fans that we were a sure thing this time around. I even thought that's why the tour is timed as it is. I'll stay optimistic for an announcement sometime down the track but I gotta say it isn't looking good. I will definitely be shattered if she passes up on us again.
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From http://www.absolumentmadonna.fr
First idea of pricing:
PRICES
LAWN 72,70 EUROS/ 78,20 EUROS/ 83,70 EUROS
PLATFORMS 78, 20 EUROS/ 100,20 EUROS/ 127,70 EUROS
GOLDEN CIRCLE 149, 70 EUROS NOT OPEN FOR SALE
And in HQ the graphic looks pretty cool:
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Ticketmaster has updated it's site with the graphic too. It's even on the AUS site.
http://www.ticketmaster.com.au/artist/768011
Backlash
in ARCHIVE - Madonna
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I wouldn't say it is a backlash per se but I don't think the demand of the tour is going to meet their expectations. They really miss calculated here. The prices they were already asking for were steep to begin with and with the US economy totally fucked at the moment people are definitely hesitating buying tickets. Let alone buying tickets at the prices listed on Stubhub. Demand too is not as big as she's toured 3 times in the past 7 years the same market. It definitely does not feel like it was only 2 years ago that she toured with CT. Plus the tickets available for fans are pretty shit on Ticketmaster so a lot of people are holding out for Stubhub to drop their prices which they no doubt will have to do or release more tickets for the shows or announce more dates.
I've still yet to see her sell out a date for this tour. For CT the rush for tickets was crazy and they were adding more dates almost immediately. Madonna.com apparently listed a few dates SOLD OUT but you can still pull up tickets on Ticketmaster.
THe deal with Stubhub has definitely turned people off.
The lacklustre promo for the album is failing to keep people interested, hence why it's struggling on the charts.
The promo performances - New York/Paris/Maidstone didn't really generate the same buzz as Koko for example.
So again I wouldn't say a backlash, simply a disappointment. It's still early days yet and there are still more dates that need to go on sale.