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elijah

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  1. 12 minutes ago, Raider of the lost Ark said:

    Another lie by Trump and the Republicans. When did the US pay for other countries defense or security? Of course, his base is ignoring facts as if they would catch a disease by accepting reality and truth. People should read the NATO treaties and look for the 2% part and what it exactly says, especially the timeline. People should look closer where the billions of dollar in Ukraine aid is actually going. It is rich of Donald Trump and the Republicans talking about the U.S. being the defender of Europe when it was the U.S. that has called for article to be imposed in 2001. 

    Do I believe a change in defense and security strategies in Europe is needeed, to be more independent of the U.S.? Absolutely. Especially my country, most likely because of its horrible past, has put diplomacy before everything else and has been fooled over and over again. Diplomacy does not work when you have to deal with autocrats and dictators like Putin, Erdogan, Orban. Deterrence is the only language agressors like Putin understand. I am very much in favor of Germany building a nuclear arsenal. 

    Of course it's non sense, there is no 2 percent in any threaty. However Dumb has make it his chewing phrase, I guess with cooperation from his RU brothers. GER and EU need much much bigger army, because if EST president is to be believed RU is expected to attack NATO within 5 year period!

  2. 6 hours ago, promise to try said:

    ok, I have the same feeling. Well, my cousin won´t, but that´s it. I wonder why. I mean, is it the economy? the war? what has happened internally, nationally that has made so many people go pro trump?

    could be that Americans want isolation and NOT to lead? Or pay for other ppl defence? I wonder why too? Since the US economy seems to be doing great.

  3. 13 hours ago, GOD said:

    what the media doesnt want you to see, this guy is not a fucking hero. He's a xenophobe, racist and nationalist. Also read few places this guy was a CIA asset. I don't condone his murder though.

    Hero is Julian Assange. 

    He was the only viable opposition in RU. He has questionable past/decisions/nationalistic affiliations. However he was a hero even just for the fact that he decided to return back to RU, understanding he may be jailed and/or killed. He faced both. And Assange? Uou!

  4. 1 minute ago, VictorMarques said:

     

    I'm sorry dear, but neither you or Madonna herself seriously believe on this Disney narrative of good and evil. Israel war isn't against Hamas, and that letter isn't about hostages either. Biden did more than defend hostages: he claims that Israel have the right of self-defense, in this context it's a clear authorization to war against civilians.

    Self defense isn't the same to kill 300 innocent babies.

    I don’t believe in good and evil regarding Israel and Palestine, but I believe the hostages of Hamas should be saved if that’s possible. The stated aim of Israel is to eradicate Hamas. And Israel does have the right of self defence but I don’t think this invasion is self defence. I hate that Palestinians are dying right now. It’s a tuff call, because Israeli government feels pressured to do smith about the hostages and Hamas invasion. I don’t know how they should answer, but it should not be against common Palestinians.

  5. 8 hours ago, debord said:

    The letter suggests that the problems of Palestinians are due to Hamas. They are due to the occupation and apartheid regime they live under.

    The current invasion of Gaza is directly linked to Hamas so present day problems are mainly due to Hamas. I mean the deaths due to the Israeli strikes.

  6. 11 hours ago, VictorMarques said:

    Not Madonna signing the letter of artists with Biden 🫠 this man literally voted for war in UNO.

    As far as I ve read she signed a letter asking Biden to do all he can of the release of 🇮🇱 hostages. It was basically against Hamas. I see nothing wrong with this. 
    The bombing in Gaza is horrid though. As I said the viable solution would be an Israeli Palestinian federation like Bosnia and Herzegovina.

  7. 1 minute ago, debord said:

    I didn't claim there were no Jews living there. But as I said above, the population was increasing because Zionists had identified it as where they wanted to create the 'Jewish homeland' and so were encouraging migration there, and buying up as much land as they could. The % of the population that was Jewish doubled in the decade prior. Funnily enough, the initial intention when the UK decided to terminate the Mandate was for one state but it was Zionists who were opposed to this, not the Arabs.

    Hardly surprising so many Jews moved to Palestine the previous decade: WW2. Zionist movement was also the reason why Britain promised a Jewish state after WW1.

  8. 1 minute ago, debord said:

    Of course they were "willing to compromise" - they were being handed land which people already lived on! People who would then have to be forcibly removed! What exactly are they losing that would make them say no to this?

    Ok, I get what you mean, but as you yourself stated there were 600 000 Jews already against 1 mill Palestinians. It could hardly be argued there were no Jews living there in late 40ties.

  9. 3 hours ago, debord said:

    Not true. In 1947 the Jewish population of what's now Israel was around 600,000 while the Arab population was over 1,000,000. And that's after leading Zionists had designated the area as the target for their state and were buying up land. They chose that area for largely biblical purposes. However Herzl, the founder of modern Zionism, had also proposed plans for a Jews to settle in Cyprus, Sinai and Uganda.  The population dramatically shifted in 1948, for reasons we know.

    But I agree it's pretty irrelevant now. There should be one democratic state, with the right of return for Palestinians.

    OK, maybe I wasn't right about the Jews being millionS in 1947, I didn't really know what the numbers were at the time but I knew the picture has shifted significally in their favour: WW2 and all. And Israel was established in 1948. But other than that it is true that at the time it looks like the Jews were more willing to compromise (compared to the Palestinians)... That seems to have changed however after the constant wars they had to fight with their neighbours and the expansion in the West bank.

  10. 1 minute ago, karbatal said:

    I don’t think Israel should disappear. I say they should understand they occupied the lands. So at least they stop stealing more and give back much stolen these past decades. 
     

    About what you say about 1492 I will not comment because those are words from a CUNT. Fuck off.

    What? And why are you speaking to me in such a tone? Did I ever insult you like you are doing here? And for what: pointing out that its not realistic what you are proposing: "Palestine shouldn’t even have to share the land of what nowadays is Israel"?

  11. 6 minutes ago, karbatal said:

    Palestine shouldn’t even have to share the land of what nowadays is Israel. They created a new State based on where people lived centuries ago. Just what Putin did with Crimea. Israel had the same rights on that land as Russia has on Crimea: NONE.

    Hmmm. Really there is no analogy between your examples. The Jewish state wasnt created "based on where people lived centuries ago". In 1947, when Israel was declared a state, there were already millions of Jews living in what is presentday Israel. It was created based on where Jews lived in 1947. Maybe you mean the fact that UK in their mandade over Palestine after WW1 declared they would establish a Jewish state? However as someone mentioned, Jews lived in Palestine anyways, but many Jews moveden masse from Europe due to pogroms and WW2. In the 40ties they were already millions Jews living in Palestine.

    Cremea is no analogus for Israel. It was first populated by Cremean Tatars (original ppl that lived there), after that it was taken over by the Russian empire and many Russians and Ukrainians went to live there. Then Stalin moved millions of Tatars from Cremea and basically changed the ethnic composition: the majority were Russians. Cremea was part of the Russian USSR until 1954 when Chruschov (and the Communist party of USSR) made it part of Ukraine. After 1991 it remained within Ukraine (with Russian majority) and Russia recognized it as part of Ukraine. Not only that: in 1994 Ukraine gave up all its nuclear arms to Russia and Russia, USA, UK and France garanteed Ukraine's sovereignity and security and obliged to go to war if someone invaded Ukraine. Shocking: the one who had to protect Ukraine, invade it. How are the two situations similar really?

    And when you say "Palestine shouldn’t even have to share the land of what nowadays is Israel", you understand there are 10 million Jews in Israel now, right? If Palestine shouldnt share land with them, what should those people do? Move back to Spain, from where they were chased out in 1492???? 

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