johnnox
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Don't like? Don't read. Why does it bother you so much?
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Well 3 of those pages were Gugu not understanding what avant garde means
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Who cares?
Lets close this thread.
You must have missed the last six pages of people caring and expressing opinions.
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So in terms of having chosen the wrong singles, I guess that's only 2/3 true - they chose the right first single. But because that "right" first single was crap, it's actually the wrong single too. In short, she should've never recorded that song, period!
LOVE THIS response!
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Madonna: Borderline, Burning Up, I Know It
Like a Virgin: Into the Groove, Angel, Dress You Up
True Blue: La Isla Bonita, Open Your Heart, Papa Don't Preach
Like a Prayer: Oh Father, Like A Prayer, Spanish Eyes
I'm Breathless: Vogue, Sooner or Later, Something To Remember
Erotica: Waiting, Words, Erotica
Bedtime Stories: Human Nature, Don't Stop, Secret
Ray of Light: Power of Goodbye, Ray of Light, Drowned World
Music: Nobody's Perfect, WIFLFAG (Above and Beyond version ); Paradise
American Life: Easy Ride, American Life, Love Profusion
Confessions on a Dance Floor: Hung Up, Push, Forbidden Love
Hard Candy: Beat Goes On, Dance 2Nite, Voices
MDNA: Love Spent, I'm Addicted, Some Girls
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So you would've not released 4 Minutes? First?
No,
I would have released that first. But I think there were stronger singles that would have made a greater chart impact than Give It 2 Me and especially Miles Away.
The Beat Goes On was a shoe-in for a single, but I guess she didn;t want to be seen releasing two singles in a row with rappers.
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it's weird but she always seems to between albums when it sounds like she would fit in on radio.
Ha! I totally get what you're saying!
I kind of wish she's put some taster singles out there every now and again; stuff that's not necessarily connected to an album, but just to remind people she's still here and be a bit experimental.
But as I guess she thinks she has nothing to prove, there's no money to be made by doing that.
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I think, like Hard Candy, the wrong singles were chosen from MDNA. WHich often is said with the benefit of hindsight. But even at the time of the album's release, i think it became fairly obvious to most that the planned singles were not as strong as some of the album tracks.
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Stupid question. Those two songs have nothing to do with anything on that album. As usual, you come back here wanting responses to your stupid threads. Well, here's one response: you're a fuckwit.
Suedy - go away and be a grump elsewhere. If you don;t like the thread, then ignore it like I do almost all of your comments. Judging by the number of people who've commented here, it's something people have found it interesting enough to share their feelings about.
Stop making yourself look like an idiot.
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Yes and I'm discussing it
yeah, you're just being ' you' I guess.
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Robin Thicke's Blurred lines & Give it 2 me are basically the same song
I listened to both of them this morning back to back and thought exactly the same thing.
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Sorry but the suggestion that Hard Candy was ahead of its time is abit ridiculous.
It's a question to discuss, forgive me if I'm wrong but I thought that was a forum was about?
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I've always thought Beat Goes On was way too strong a track to not be a single. Had it been released this year, with a video of course, it had the potential to be a huge hit.
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You're signed, Homer.
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Based on two of the biggest hits of the year, Daft Punk's Get Lucky and Robin Thicke's Blurred lines, was Hard Candy ahead of its time?
She was accused of jumping on the r'n'nb and Timbaland/ Timberlake band wagons at the time. But when you hear the Thicke/ Pharrel/ Daft Punk collaborations doing so well right now, they are not that far removed from Give It 2 Me, Dance 2Nite, Candy Shop, The Beat Goes On etc.
Had Hard Candy been released this year, would it have sold more or received more praise?
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or on The Other Shore.
Thanks.
Already have.
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It's a news story, Acko. This is a forum about Madonna. Just because YOU aren't interested doesn't mean other people aren't.
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http://www.boston.com/ae/blogs/mediaremix/2013/03/gay_peoples_court_madonna_v_bo.html
If, like me, you were out on Saturday night doing something way cool that definitely did not involve watching videos on the Internet (WINK FACE), you may have missed that Madonna showed up to the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) Media Awards in New York City. She gave a two-minute speech honoring Anderson Cooper for his work as an out journalist. She preceded it with an eight-minute speech honoring herself for being the most awesomely supportive gay icon of all time, and if you dare disagree she will cut you with the Swiss Army knife hidden under the brim of her Smokey the Bear hat.
Oh yeah, that. Madonna was dressed as a Cub Scout to publicly repudiate the Boy Scouts of America’s increasingly maligned no-gays-allowed policy. It was the latest bold move in an ongoing war among singing stars for gay hearts, loyalties, and (enter cynicism) consumer dollars. In recent years the LGBT demographic community has become a coveted prize for those peddling pop music. But when determining the difference between "support" and "exploitation," there's important evidence to consider: history. Unlike bush-league performers who warble paint-by-numbers Message Songs about being born this way like perfect fireworks or whatever, Madonna has been sticking up for the gay community since the days when it was a potential career-killer. That earns her a pass – and good faith in her sincerity – even when she pulls off gimmicky PR stunts that would seem patronizing coming from others.
Madonna’s appearance at the GLAAD awards earned a lot of pre-press, for obvious reasons. Madonna speaking at a gala of affluent gay power brokers is sort of like the Queen Mother making a transatlantic voyage to address the colonies. It’s a special moment.
But the announcement of her appearance elicited backlash from a contingent of Lady Gaga fans, AKA “Little Monsters,” AKA the online fan world’s equivalent of a fringe militia. Totally not trying to be funny, they petitioned GLAAD to rescind its invitation on the grounds that Madonna does not care about gay people and probably tried to give them AIDS. Sigh.
The original petition (since removed from the website where it was posted):
Dear GLAAD:
It has come to the attention to Little Monsters everywhere that you are letting Madonna give an award to Anderson Cooper. Not only is this an insult to a true gay rights activist like Lady Gaga, but it insults every gay man and woman on this planet.
Madonna is one of the major reasons for AIDS. Back in the 1980’s, she encouraged gay men to have unprotected sex. While she certainly didn’t start the disease, she and her lack of morals helped it spread.
Please rethink your choice of having Madonna as a presenter. If you don’t, we Little Monsters will strike back in a way you won’t like.
Sincerely,
Lady Gaga’s Little Monsters
This letter is tragic. Not just because, ironically, it exhumes from the 1980s the homophobic insinuation that gay men’s sexual proclivities wrought the AIDS epidemic.
It’s tragic because it shows a lack of knowledge of pop music history. And in this case, pop music history is linked to political history. Lady Gaga arrived on the scene about half a decade after same-sex marriage did. (Massachusetts became the first state to allow it in 2004.) To suggest the bravery of her social justice contributions somehow surpasses that of Madonna, whose biography is drenched in gay culture, is to reveal oneself as an LGBT “activist” with no grasp of LGBT media history. And anyone with a supposed passion for something has a responsibility to understand its roots, whether that requires tracing back a music sample from a song or appreciating the sentiment behind a political statement.
So for those just joining the program, here's the super-condensed version of Madonna's connections to the gay world: Christopher Flynn, her ballet instructor and oft-cited mentor, immersed a teenage Madonna in the arts – and the gay discos of Detroit, where she honed her street moves and an attitude one MAC makeup shade away from that of a boa-whipping Motor City drag queen. At Flynn’s suggestion Madonna moved to NYC to become a professional dancer; she became a first-rate couch-surfer, living off popcorn and the kindness of strangers while she eked out a living through nude modeling and gigs with ragtag punk bands. She spent her days shacking up with edgy artists like good pal Keith Haring. She spent her nights at gay clubs, shopping her pop-dance demo tapes from DJ to DJ. Often in tow was her gay younger brother, Christopher, who eventually became her tour designer.
Madonna’s pavement pounding paid off, and she used her newfound notoriety to achieve greater visibility for the LGBT community that fostered her fame. At the height of ‘80s-era homophobia, she actually celebrated the effeminacies of her most flamboyant dancers in her music videos, live shows and movies: particularly her tour documentary Truth or Dare, which in typically histrionic fashion depicted her as a messianic mama rescuing gay crew, like stray cats, from familial abandonment and a cruel, hostile world. She specifically engaged queer people of color; “Vogue” was inspired by a dance movement derived from the African- and Latino-American gay club scene. And after watching friends like Haring and Flynn succumb to the epidemic, Madonna became an early and outspoken AIDS activist, using benefit concerts and television PSAs to educate about the disease and its stigma. Her Like a Prayer album came packaged with a fact sheet about AIDS and safe sex guidelines, and she used a pro-condom message to open her famous Sex book, which depicted her engaged with (and/or assisting) every combination of genders in various states of titillating tomfoolery.
The public outcry over Sex, her album Erotica and its accompanying MTV-banned music videos, all heavily influenced by the leather and fetish clubs of the NYC underground, marked the end of Madonna's most overtly sexual oeuvre. By extension, her more obvious tributes to gay culture grew tamer: think guest spots on Will & Grace and her painful "best pal comedy" with Rupert Everett, The Next Best Thing. No matter. The commitment was clear.
And that is why what's good for the goose isn't always good for the Gaga. It's sweet when younger pop stars stick up for gay rights, but in an age that requires little moxie to do so, it can also smack of condescension.
Madonna's recent appearance is not unimpugnable either. Like everything she does, it was mostly about herself. It's obvious she is as much interested in wresting back the gay icon crown from younger stars as she is in furthering any particular cause. As always, whether you find her unique brand of childlike narcissism to be more charming than offensive is a matter of taste.
And her speech about bullying and Boy Scouts sort of meandered between pro-gay bullet points strung together by blown kisses. It was heartfelt, but heavy-handed. Madonna knows that in the age of Twitter, subtlety doesn't work. "Express Yourself" needs to become "Born This Way."
By Madonna’s standards, Saturday's appearance was a touch... reductive. But hey, at least by now she’s earned the right to steal from her own catalogue.
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In the last one but one second of the album version of Into The Groove where she sings a knowing 'Yeah.' Turn the volume right up to hear this one.
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Girl Gone Wild: 4/10
Gang Bang: 8/10
I'm Addicted: 8/10
Turn Up The Radio: 3/10
Give Me All Your Luvin': 2/10
Some Girls: 8/10
Superstar: 2/10
I Don't Give A: 9/10
I'm A Sinner: 4/10
Love Spent: 10/10
Masterpiece: 9/10
Falling Free: 7/10
Beautiful Killer: 5/10
I Fucked Up: 5/10
B-Day Song: 3/10
Best Friend: 5/10
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One of my faves from the start, although I always thought it deserved a better ending. Love Spent has a great finish, but Some Girls runs out of ideas in the last 30 seconds.
Still an ace track though.
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Reluctantly agreed.
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Not a chance. If the tour cant sell the album, if the singles cant sell the album, then there is no point in her releasing anything else from it. Its not commercially viable.
Was Hard Candy ahead of its time?
in ARCHIVE - Madonna
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I didn't realise we just closed threads for the hell of it.