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johnnox

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  1. What's your favourite line in a Madonna song? Dunno why, but these are some of my favourites....

    (Open Your Heart 12" version) 'Well, do you wanna go out with me or not? What's the matter, scared me or something?'

    (Waiting) 'And the next time you want pussy, just look in the mirror baby.'

    (Drowned World) 'No one-night stand, no far-off land, No fire that I can spark'

  2. Most of her singles always have extended versions/mixes though, I believe. Just listen to those instead. :p

    The first two to me that come to mind are "Die Another Day" & "Impressive Instant" - I love them so much, I never want them to end. :D "DAD", as much as I love it, feels quite rushed at times.

    I never liked DAD much, but I agree with Impressive Instant - an awesome track.

  3. La Isla Bonita 12" version was awful - its stopped and started too much, it wasn;t long enough.

    Like A Prayer 12" would have been perfect had they not got rid of the first verse.

    And Erotica is so brilliantly produced with so many subtle layers, I'd have loved to have it to have gone on for a couple more mins.

  4. But that just proves peter's point, that people are confusing their own personal taste with her not making an effort or being creative. You don't like R&B and consider it bandwagon jumping. I don't like R&B either, but I admit that is my personal bias, and not about Madonna not making an effort or being creative. Plenty of people accused her of bandwagon jumping on electronica when she did ROL, but people didn't complain as much because they like dance/electronica more.

    I do like r'n'b actually, when it's done well. I don;t think the majority of Hard Candy was done well.

    The beauty of madonna is that she was the one who brought these little know producers to work with her and the results were electrifying. Stuart Price, Mirwais and Orbit weren't massive names when she worked with them, and that's when she created something fresh and new.

    Working with Timbaland and Timberlake and Pharrell AFTER they were at their creative peak did not work when it came to album sales.

  5. Really? And how many tours and albums have you conceived and put together to gather this expert opinion. And let me remind you everything you are sharing is your OPINION. Not everybody shares it.

    Sorry but you sound like a fan who's been around for a while who is just sour that she isn't doing what YOU think she should do. That is FACT. Pull the stick out of the hole. Another FACT.

    Sorry to disappoint but there's no stick in my hole. I'm an objective fan. I can her strengths and I can see her weaknesses. That's not me being sour or negative, that's me being rational. That's me being a fan.

    No, she's not doing what I want her to do, and backed up by apalling sales of Hard Candy and Celebration, she's not doing what the majority of people who used to buy her music want her to do either. That is a FACT.

    i'm here because despite her current poor output, i have faith that she can come back and wow us again.

    You have your opinion, I have mine. that's the purpose of a forum. Not to suggest people pull metaphorical sticks out of metaphorical holes.

  6. Minimum effort means creatively, not physically.

    I'm sorry but it takes less effort to come up and conceive a stage show and set list than it does to write personal, meaningful lyrics, with stunning melodies and break new boundaries musically and visually in videos. It takes more talent and intelligence to make the world stop and take notice than it does to put on a bad wig and dance your way through an apalling mix of Give It 2 Me.

    By hopping on r'n'b bandwagon, she loses artistic integrity. By putting almost the same tour two years running, she is lazy. Not physically lazy, but creatively lazy.

    You have to admit she's in a creative cul-de-sac.

  7. again not true.

    just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's a fact.

    he's right. sure, money has motivated her greatly over the years. But when she first started, it was about proving she was as good as any male performer, she could break through boundaries, she could dare to be different, she could push her audience as far as she could and they'd go with her.

    Now she lacks any creativity as shown by Hard Candy and the tour. Even her last few videos since Hung Up have lacked any kind of merit at all.

    She wasn't always about the money. Now she is.

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