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    Turn Up The Radio vs. Girls Gone Wild for 2nd single

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

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    I like it when madonna flips the script so, even though I supported GMAYL since the demo (cuz it's just too clever), I'm hoping for something completely different this time around. That automatically rules out 'Turn Up The Radio'.

    Let them have their "look at me, I'm being totally artistic and tragic/dark/depressing or confusing" (in an obvious kinda way) video everyone's been waiting for.

    Madonna being referenced heavily in news coverage of Jackson's death

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

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    You are way off the mark.

    MADONNA revolutionized AND raised th bar for music videos like NO other artist, Michael Jackson included.

    She did so by moving beyond the Thriller conventions of the video as dazzling accompaniment to the music and a presentation of talents into something more profound: she turned videos as legitimate vehicles for artistic expression and not merely as a necessary thing on the side of music to sell music. That's her revolution, turning videos as distinct and parallel endeavors almost as important as the music they support. Thus her mindset of videos-as-art and mode of expression resulted in her making the most layered videos of any artist before her and since. As art results in cognitive engagement in the beholder (something even the best of MJ's videos never managed), one is left upon seeing her videos into thinking, What does it mean? What does it say? Why does it affect me beyond the entertainment value of it? Thus, for all its dazzle even Thriller doesn't have the depth of even just Open Your Heart. And that inspired (whether they admit to or not) other artists to explore videos as legitimate artistic outlets of their own. So, as an artist like Bjork may make some of the most conceptual and avant garde videos out there, or a band like Nirvana infused their own with profound subtext, there is no denying that such are merely the result of Madonna having edified the merits of videos. THAT is raising the bar.

    And when your videos ushered thought, conversation, or debate, distinct from the entertainment of the music itself (through provocation or pushing the boundaries of social permission), then that's revolution.

    Michael's videos, no matter how expensive or slick or glorious, are still one-dimensional and static representations of Michael the Great Entertainer. Each new one mere regurgitations of the previous. He made Thriller, then endlessly repeated it. They're facile in their intent. Even his "message" videos are facile and one dimensional in their sloganeering. Madonna's, on the other hand, are startlingly new expressions in that given moment, and meanings splinter into different color as like a light passes through the prism of the eyes seeing it.

    Michael's videos are Norman Rockwells at Picasso prices; Madonna's are Jackson Pollocks or Picassos at any price. The other is still an illustration no matter how grandly and beautifully executed; the other is art.

    And it doesn't stop there.

    word. :thumbsup:

    John MCcain Campaign Calls Madonnas show "Divisive"

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

    Posted · Edited by natural

    I jus saw a much better YouTube video of it and the comparison wasn't that obvious.

    It just showed one group that (in her view) contributed to the destruction of the world and another group that contributed to its well-being. I think it was way more brilliant than the Sorry vid.

    I think you're overreacting and playing it up, like the media, Zezwer.

    John MCcain Campaign Calls Madonnas show "Divisive"

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

    Posted

    She already skewered him perfectly during the Confessions Tour with the "Don't Speak" Interlude which this "Get Stupid" Interlude just seems to be a tired retread of.

    Yeah, I don't recall anyone causing a biggie out of Bush and Condi on that Sorry interlude.

    Better to call someone out before they become president, rather than just bitching and being anti-establishment, after the fact, I say.

    Madonna Reinvents Herself As a Ticket-Scalping Profiteer

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

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    M-Dolla Philosophy: Don't hate. Get yours, bitchez! :thumbsup:

    And I mean that with the utmost seriousness. How long does it take her fans to realize this has been Madonna's mode of operation from the start? Find out the way shit works, for better or worse, and deal with it to its best advantage. She would only encourage her fans to do the same. At the end of the day, she'll get the bad publicity and negative reaction from this, just like everything else she's ever done first... but the act, itself, won't be as bad as everyone made it out to be.

    [ end cheesy assessment ] :lol:

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