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    Do Teens know 80s music?

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

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    I know a few teens who only know Like a Virgin, 4 Minutes etc. I've even come across gays my age aka in their 20s who barely even know her catalogue, which I find really weird

    On the other hand my friend who's an elementary ESL teacher told her class (full of Chinese and Indian children who haven't been here for more than a year) that she was going to the tour and they were all like MADONNA!!! FAMOUS SINGER!!!

    ICONIC intro video discush (Wheel me away in a gurney please?)

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

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    The shot of her running with the army following her :dramatic:

    Yes it's everything! Overall I'd say it's not my favourite opener - BAT, RIT, Confessions and MDNA were even more impressing and built up even more hype for her entrance too IMO..but the video definitely is a visual masterpiece!!

    Yasss. The cool thing about the RH intro is that it's the first time she presented a distinct, concrete narrative in the intro. Usually any messages/dialogue gets lost in the sound system/audience cheers but I think she did a really great job of setting up the whole theme.

    Yes, she used sex. But she was never an object

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

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    I hate when people have that misconception, especially in regard to Vogue.

    Madonna acknowledges her inspirations by including them in her videos/ live performances by allowing THEM to take center stage (Jose & Luis had solos in the video, on tour, were featured in the MTV Voting ad, AND she did a track with them). She doesn't take credit for their artistry as her own, nor does she reduce them to mere props or background decoration. She doesn't appropriate or exploit cultures, she showcases them. Madonna has consistently been an ally to Black folks & gays since her debut.

    As for her being white... it is what it is. :vogue:

    :clap: it's sad that people don't see past their own judgements to realize that Madonna always showcases cultures with love and respect (and a lot of research). It's never stereotypical or fetishizing nor does she merely try things on.

    Yes, she used sex. But she was never an object

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

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    Can someone explain to me how come Beyonce is a greater icon in many feminist circles than Madonna? It's just beyond me, I can not understand it.

    I think it's for a few reasons - we've seen her evolve from a member of a group controlled by her father to marrying a powerful man, so lots of people relate to the fact that she still exists in a patriarchal realm, whereas Madonna's never been seen as reliant on a male figure. People love the fact that she can be a doting wife and mother (aka portraying softness) while staying super sexy and calling herself a feminist. Also, I think the feminist messages in her music are way more obvious, almost slogan esque ("I'm a survivor", "is my body too bootylicious?" "Who run the world? Girls" etc) than Madonna's, which are often embedded in other themes (i.e. Express Yourself is a feminist anthem but it's more specifically about affirming your self worth in a relationship). Even when Beyonce's singing about being ***flawless, a survivor, an independent woman, feeling herself, running the world etc. she arguably still panders to the male gaze to some extent, which makes her brand of feminism easier to swallow than say, Madonna's "hulk" arms in a leotard. She can play the Kylie role as well as the Madonna at the same time.

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