Jump to content

boy skeffington

Elitists
  • Posts

    3,201
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Posts posted by boy skeffington

  1. 1 hour ago, FeTuoni said:

    I don’t think we’ll have these songs readily available. The Rebel Heart EP took a month to come out on ITunes. We’ll see how they handle the situation this time around!

    I know I hope they are able to be streamed at some point. I wish Autotune Baby was on Spotify. I will have to rely on Youtube for them until my cd arrives. Even then I don't have a cd player in the house. 

  2. 2 minutes ago, Katypatra said:

    Well then, the obvious solution to this is releasing albums on digital platforms a week before the release of physical copies. 

    I think the physical sales the first week will outweigh any streaming problem caused by a leak less than a week before release. If folks aren't going to buy it and download it illegally it makes no difference what day it's available. 

    Keeping it off youtube, twitter and insta is the key. I would never seek out some download service for an album. 

     

  3. 10 minutes ago, Katypatra said:

    I wrote to Guy Oseary asking this, but he probably doesn’t read comments on his insta. Either way, he should be smart enough to consider this without us having to desperately leave comments... but history shows it’s not always the case... 

    You've got to let it go. If physical formats/digital formats have the same release date, some stores in the world will break the embargo and sell the album early. Madonna's team knows this. They've done a fantastic job of containing this album as long as possible. 

  4. 45 minutes ago, robster said:

    Well, in all fairness, if Madonna and her team REALLY didn’t want it to leak, they would have separated the digital from the physical release. Now the album is shipped all over the world, actually being sold already, with thousands of people potentially having access to it. They knew this might happen. They probably have a back-up plan should an actual full rip appear online, and then work on prosecuting the person responsible for the leak. That prospect and the fact that the last leak and the prosecution of the previous culprit instilled a lot of fear in people. Hopefully enough for them to think twice before leaking anything! 

    Yes. Realistically, they would have do to a digital exclusive for the first week or two and then have the physical cd. When physical cds are involved they will always be sold ahead of time because the shipment of product means the album will arrive to the stores early and many will break the embargo to get the sales. It's not so malicious, it's just that there is a HUNGER for the product. A rabid hunger.

    In the 1990s/2000s prior to Itunes/Napster etc, I purposely befriended the employees of the record stores in my hood to - 1) get the promotional pics and posters and 2) GET THE ALBUM A FEW DAYS EARLY as soon as it arrives to the store. I've literally done that in the US since Erotica...but no more record stores in LA. 

  5. 13 minutes ago, p4_trulo said:

    I think she was blah and a bit mad  about the article when she started reading it but she went ballistic when she read the word menopause on the article 🤗 ,  just a funny comment please dont go ballistic u guys too jeje 😅

    You know, the inclusion of the menopause line was so bizarre. It displays that the writer is fixated on Madonna's age. 
    I found that musing along with the assertion of Madonna's face work to be disgusting and showed the writer's notion she wasn't dealing with a human being in Madonna. Sad.

  6. 1 hour ago, XXL said:

     

    In addition to Janet Jackson and David Byrne perhaps  :rotfl:

     

    I stopped reading right there

    As if

    And while on the subject of star leagues or inarticulateness for that matter ...

    The inclusion of these two (or anyone else she may have come up with) are there to DIMINISH Madonna. Make no mistake. She exists separate from those artists.

    And...the writer is calculating..because if she is called out for the comparison, it will be taken by social media as an indictment of Jancel and Byrne. It insulates her weak argument. 

     

  7. 10 minutes ago, Gus said:

     

    96c1b9064a9e47468e565d100209147f-superJumbo.jpg

    For those of us who’ve grown up with Madonna always near us — in addition to Janet Jackson and maybe David Byrne, there are very few consistently present pop stars alive for Gen Xers — it feels unlikely we could learn something new about her.
    But in the magazine this week, looking at Madonna at 60, I did learn some things. She’s grown ever more remote and has always been a bit inarticulate, even as she stays in the popular imagination and in the rotation of playlists. It’s interesting to hear fresh perspectives about the through line that AIDS has played in her life, and about what the limits of ambition are.
    (Surprise, though, and a spoiler — Madonna absolutely despises this profile, viciously and graphically described on her Instagram, though I’m unclear on why. It’s often awful to be written about! It’s a very normal reaction, and I think it’s amplified for people who are very regimented and used to being in control of their lives.)

    https://static.nytimes.com/email-content/LI_14044.html

    Further proves Madonna's point. Takeaways for me...

    1) Of course there is something new to learn. As if she is such a caricature and so simple that nothing else can be learned as she changes and evolves. I'd say we know so little about Madonna. AGE SHADE

    2) Madonna is now and has always been inarticulate. (from the STYLE editor - insert eye roll) It's funny I have molded so much of my speech after Madonna growing up invested in her interviews and appearances. And...I'm articulate as fuck. Tks Choire.

    3) It's so awful to be written about and so that's Madonna's real problem...a lack of control (in addition to being remote).

    I'd bet Choire Sicha (the author of this) hasn't been written about much. I MISS INGRID SISCHY!!!!

  8. The title of the article MADONNA AT SIXTY is an insult if you are trying to highlight anything about Madonna other than her age. I bet that was enough to set her off. As if the only aspect of her worth attaching to the article was her age.

    And yes, the use of the R word will was being used yesterday along with the "FLOP" (their words) album Rebel Heart in the headlines being used to discuss the article in the media. Now today they've created a new headline using her Instagram reference to the R word. 

    I know much of the consensus here is that she somehow was lax with security and so kind of deserved to have an entire library of demos and final album stolen and leaked months in advance of release. I have always shied away from the demos and felt that the absolute horror she must have experienced at this happening was somehow diminished. I can't imagine how awful it was and she confirmed it again in the interview...going as far to say it made her not want to make music. I bet it still fucking stings.

     

  9. 1 hour ago, robster said:

    Oh SNAP! M is FURIOUS about this article! 😮😮😮 and not hiding it! AT ALL

    Mafame ❌ on the cover of N.Y.T. Magazine photographed by my dear friend @jr..........Also sharing my fav photo that never made it in, along with pre-shoot chat and a celebratory glass of wine 🍷 after many hours of work! To say that I was disappointed in the article would be an understatement- It seems. You cant fix society And its endless need to diminish, Disparage or degrade that which they know is good. Especially string independent women. The journalist who wrote this article spent days and hours and months with me and was invited into a world  which many people dont get to see, but chose to focus on trivial and superficial matters like the ethnicity of my stand in or the fabric of my curtains and never ending comments on. my age which would never have been mentioned had I been a MAN! Women have a really hard time being the champions of other women even it they are posing as intellectual feminists. Im just sorry i spent 5 minutes with her. It makes me feel raped. And yes I’m allowed to use that analogy having been raped at the age of 19. Further proof that the N.Y.T. Is one of the founding fathers of the Patriarchy. And I say—-DEATH TO THE PATRIARCHY woven deep into the fabric of Society. And I will never stop fighting to eradicate it. 💔

    https://www.instagram.com/p/ByXoF3NBl8j/?utm_source=ig_embed

    While I enjoyed the article, I constantly felt like it was SO superficial and also did diminish her. The writer felt more intelligent than Madonna, it was obvious. Bravo to her for calling the writer and publication out. 

    Knowing this writer had such access...

  10. 4 hours ago, karbatal said:

    I give not only an EXCELLENT, but a MAGNIFIQUE SUPERBE WONDERFUL punctuation 

     

    It’s quintessential M and is absolutely current but could fit nicely on any of her albums. It’s my favorite so far. 

  11. 4 hours ago, Kurt420 said:

    Piece of Sheffield's original ROL review from 1998:

    “Sky Fits Heaven” takes its text from a Gap ad, which is at least an interesting place to seek the secrets of the universe, but “Shanti/Ashtangi,” where Madonna chants verse from the Yoga Taravali, sounds facile down here in the material world, especially since for all the faux Indian trappings it sounds like Devo’s version of “Working in the Coal Mine.” Madonna spends too much of the album slowing down the tempo in her quest for God, but God probably prefers “Into the Groove,” just like the rest of us.

    Ray of Light isn’t quite the triumphant musical comeback her fans were praying novenas for. She hasn’t regained her genius for the crass, linear pop hook, and the Eighties Madonna of high-energy beats and wise-ass bravado is gone forever — that show is over, say goodbye. Instead, Ray of Light sums up the best we can expect from Madonna at this late date: overly arty, occasionally catchy, confused, secondhand, infuriating and great fun in spite of herself. She doesn’t seem to have a clear idea of what she wants to say about motherhood, other than that it’s the sort of intense experience that happens to a special person like Madonna. But that’s all it takes to get her emotions going, and passionate peaks like “Drowned World” and “Little Star” remind you that for all the years Madonna has spent chasing art, class and fashion, the reason we still care about her eccentricities is the emotion in her music; all her desperately chic decor can’t hide her rock & roll heart. We’ve all already forgotten the Sex book, the nose ring, the gold tooth. But we’ll always swoon for the lovesick Italian girl who sang “Crazy for You.” You can hear that voice on Ray of Light.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/ray-of-light-109869/

    It's funny because it sounds like reading fans critiques on this board......always wishing for "the next...." (lately seems to be COADF) :lol: Does God prefer Hung Up like "the rest of us"??

     

    YES to your last line...as I was reading I was thinking...it sounds like some of the overly cynical critiques here where posters think they know how and what Madonna should be. So easy to dismiss if you don't like her direction. This reviewer wants his Madonna in a box. 

  12. 42 minutes ago, vertigokane said:

    The extreme negative reaction seems to stem from something far deeper than some off pitch vocals — I’ve never seen a pop performance generate such swift and polarizing emotion. Madonna struck a nerve here, and I think it the crummy vocals are just what the (public) detractors are grasping onto as the reason for their disdain—I think folks are reviling it because she turned the “formulaic pop performance” that folks were expecting on it’s head—there was a subversive darkness to it that caught me off guard, and I imagine even more so if you were expecting a joyful, frothy performance. To me it came across as more of a modern art performance centered around creating a mood and aura rather than centered around the music.  LAP was used as a tool for the whole. This was pure Madonna vision on display. Watching it live, it took my breath away, and I found it to actually be genius, and I still do. She clearly didn’t want to do a SuperBowl style performance—she knows how better than anyone. She was intentional in her vision, and the fact that it’s so polarizing publicly actually shows she did something that was pushing the envelope in a new way (because who in their right mind gets that upset over some pitchy vocals...?) It’s almost as if the general public refuses to let her be subversive like this because she’s a “pop star”, and she’s breaking some unsaid rule. Also, the fact she did this at Eurovision, where the contrast couldn’t be greater between the mood of the evening and her performance shows her intentionality. 

    With Drake performance it was she was too old and too disgusting to see kiss anyone.

    With Prince tribute performance it was she is not the appropriate person to do the tribute. 

    With VMAs the fact she spoke about herself somehow was disrespectful to Aretha Franklin

    Stonewall she has ass implants 

    Eurovision she can’t sing 

    I understand this is simplified and that some folks do not like these performances/appearances based on artistic merit and such. That said, yes, the extreme vitriol and outrage is clearly about something deeper. She’s always had this effect but with outrage culture and social media it’s growing. They want to see her destroyed, cancelled so the outrage police will find the “weakness” wherever they can.

    I continue to just find joy, inspiration and a role model in Madonna and her art. I never think the reaction/outrage matches the thing being complained about. 

     

     

     

×
×
  • Create New...