neutrocks
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again neut, i think thats FANTASTIC that you like this joanne. im not being condescending or anything. glow on!!!
but heres the thing. the more the press and plebs says shes the new madonna (as they did with britney and others) most of us hardcore fans are going to laugh and put a stake in it. and say:
NO!!!
just as im sure, die hard debbie harry fans did when madonna came along and the comparisons started. then after a year we can see the VAST difference between the two.
there is only one madonna, as there was one dietrich and there was one monroe. there is one joanne and if youre on that ship - HAPPY SAILS!!!!
But I am a "hard core Madonna fan". And to be honest, the only time I've read/heard that Lady Ga Ga is the "new Madonna" is from Madonna fans. Maybe the media is making the comparisons too, but I've yet to see them??? And frankly, I don't care. Any female artist who tends to stick out visually as Lady Ga Ga has and make a huge impact will always be compared to Madonna these days. I expect that, but it's hardly a reason I am going take great offense and purposely look for flaws or poke fun at her appearance. I like her because she's "Lady Ga Ga" not because I (or anyone else for that matter) think(s) she reminds me of Madonna. I never thought that.
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and for an entire new generation she may just be and im glad for it. and thank the lord jesus christ in heaven that i am what would lOndBO1 say? over 35? cause if i had to look and admire that mug and shoulder pad, i dont know what id do.
give me that devil haring skirt and my ciccone whore face anyday!!! at 25 OR 85.
beat that tambourine, cowbell and guitar, not clog foot lumpitous up on keyboard.
Well, I am not sure if you're being fair here. While you're entitled to enjoy whomever you like. It's obvious we're all Madonna fans. And I don't expect all Madonna fans will agree on who they like other than Madonna. With that said, Madonna has had her days of sporting some pretty ridiculous outfits. Do I really care? Because it's more than about what they look like for me. It's the whole package. No doubt Madonna has it. She will always be #1 for me, but I am able to look beyond Madonna and enjoy other artists who may or may not be compared to Madonna.
But again, I don't really think Madonna and Lady Ga Ga are alike other than they both stand out and are quite unique. If I was to be honest, Lady Ga Ga has a better voice. But what is interesting is that she mixes it up and is able to sing gritty and then sing really great all in the same song. POKER FACE is a great example of that.
If you don't like Lady Ga Ga, that is your choice, but let's remember it seems the things I see many fans criticize other artists for, are the same things critics have criticized Madonna for all through her career.
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I agree it's quite distasteful and disrespectful, but as someone else mentioned in this thread, I am sure Madonna isn't crying over this, so why should I be offended?
But you can bet, Madonna will not look like this when she's 70 either. She takes care of herself that she will look in her 50's if even that.
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I don't get this bashing of Lady Ga Ga. But it seems it's typical of Madonna fans to bash most artists that may give Madonna a run for her money.
Will Lady Ga Ga just be a "one trick pony". Well, she's already proven she's not. She managed to create enough buzz around her album and first single before they were released. And then once the album came about several of her songs were big hits. So far the songs have longevity since POKER FACE is still at the top of the charts and her "Just Dance" recently was at the top of the charts when that has been released more than a year ago.
I like Lady Ga Ga. She really stands out artistically and has created this wild persona that makes her more interesting. And the thing is, I don't like all the songs on her "Fame" album. All the bonus tracks are obvious throw aways. But there are a number of songs on the album that definitely make up for it. I love that her voice can be quite beautiful while at times quite gritty.
I needn't Madonna to endorse Lady Ga Ga for me to like her. I liked her long before. And I do understand why Lady Ga Ga appeals to Madonna. Lady Ga Ga has a unique appeal as Madonna does.
By the way, I don't think Lady Ga Ga is "the next Madonna". She's unique enough to stand on her own.
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People, people, people---ICONIC is not really your personal favorite or the ugliest but easily the most recognizable when shown to most, or the one that's had the most lasting impact or impression. After saying that I go with the TRUE BLUE cover, NOT my favorite (that's reserved for the LAV cover), but again, easily the most instantly recognizable.
I have to agree with what you stated regarding "the most iconic".
I like to add, that later generations will not be familiar with many of the photos posted in this thread. I do think "True Blue" will be more recognizable by the masses, yet their will be generations which will not recognize it and even more know who Madonna may be to the extent we know her.
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So how is this any different than appearing on American Idol? Both American Idol and X-Factor are the same format... a talent contest. I ask people because there have been many who object to that and claim she was above it??
And are some assuming she's performing FOR the judges or she's just a musical guest? I just read some of the replies and some replied as if she's performing FOR the judges when all she would be is the musical guest.
Will she do it or is this another silly rumor? I suspect the people behind X-Factor are trying to get her and Michael Jackson. The question is... "will she do it?"
I don't object to her doing it, but she should certainly do American Idol. She needs more promotion in the states to sell her music than anywhere else.
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I'm sure life will go on for all involved. Meanwhile, we have the media and fans speculating the most ridiculous things regarding this issue and any other issue that is blown out of proportion.
By the way, someone made a comment about the many Nannies she has. This tells me that she must had enough Nannies around the clock, so one particular Nanny wouldn't be required to work long hours. Then again, I do recall hearing that each of the kids had their own Nanny. Not sure how much of that is true??
If she let them go before they were contracted to leave, I can't see how Madonna comes off the bad guy here? She's willing to pay them until their contract is up, so it seems Madonna is getting the raw deal here since it's evident she'll have to pay to replace them and still pay these Nannies until their contracts are up.
Oh look... I'm talking about this as if I really care and it's my business. LOL!!!
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I wonder if this is just a story misinterpreted being she's due back with her children where the media (as usual) twisted it around if she's adopting?
In any event, if she is. GREAT!!! Any criticism over it, is just pure ignorant since Madonna will be saving a life and providing this person with a life they would never have dreamed of without being taken in. She's proven to be a great parent to her three children currently. There is no doubt, it won't be any different.
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Well,it's March.Where's the DVD??
There is NO DVD. There was NO official announcement and the only source claimed such a DVD would be released was through MadonnaONLINE and their source. Anyone who gets upset over this, just set themselves for disappointment since no one from Madonna's camp even squeezed a fart about releasing this DVD.
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Could we pls stop get busy with all GaGaesque stupid singers? GaGa may wrote on her sleeve about Madge but she should tone the copy down. Pathetic women that want to become Madonnas can still wait to release 6 albums or even more. And again, Madonna is ONE and no one other will pass again like her
Really, you need to get over this nonsense idea that every woman entertainer is out to bash Madonna. Just because Lady Gaga stated she wanted to be as big if not bigger than Madonna, doesn't mean she was bashing Madonna. Seriously, I don't understand fans who read so much into what other entertainers say about others. In your case, you've taken something Lady GaGa stated and twisted it into something bad.
You obviously need reassurance Madonna is the best by belittling other artists who are or may become just as successful as Madonna.
As for this SEPTEMBER gal... I've never heard of her until this thread. I think that says enough. She's entitled to her opinion even though I don't agree in what she said. Then again, who knows if the publication didn't twist what she said too.
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I'd probably still listen to hard candy if it were by the pet shop boys. It's a double edged sword. Then we wouldn't of had give it 2 me!
I doubt it would have been even "Hard Candy" or an R&B direction if they were involved. And I don't believe Warners said anything of the sort what direction she was heading when they contacted them.
Whatever the case, no one can really say PSB's involvement would have made the project BETTER. At this point, we will never know that.
I personally like HARD CANDY. It may not be my favorite album by her, but it only proves she's willing to take chances and experiment with either unknowns and popular producers.
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So you have yet to answer the question. Please point to where DVDs of BAT have been released that are not bootlegs or rips of other officially released formats.
I mean we have the Virgin Tour on VHS. I'm sure there are some creative souls out there who have taken that and put it onto DVD.
The point to all of this is IT'S NOT THE SAME as an official release. Something released on DVD now for BAT would be remastered for better quality picture and sound than for what was released on some laserdisc back in the early 90's.
There's also the whole issue of M not getting a cent of the profits of sale from these bootlegs and laserdisc rips. Why anyone would advocate a "who cares" type of mentality towards those seeking to get the concert on an official release is a bit off the beam.
The Asian market did get an official release in a number of formats for Blond Ambition. And I think the point some are making is that BA did get a commercial release on Laser Disc. Now, that may not mean squat to anyone these days, but back in the early 90's, LD was the latest technology that was hoping to catch on. Even GIRLIE SHOW got a LD release.
I actually have the LD of BA. I was one of those idiots who bought the LD player simply for the concert. This was before DVD's existed and I should have figured a smaller format was on it's way such as albums went to CDs.
Anyway, I'd love to have the DVD of this concert. The only way to get an official copy is order the Japan version and I'm not certain readidly available they are anymore. I know Amazon.com has them available.
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There was no official announcement of the DVD being released this March anyway. Just a fan site stating it's source said it would be released. And maybe there were plans originally to release it in March, but never set in stone.
Anyone disappointed over this, set themselves up. I am not disappointed. Sure, I wouldn't mind to have that DVD in March, but I understand why they will delay it til later in the year. And hopefully, it will give them more to add to the Extras?
It'll be released. Patience is a virtue.
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I suspect the TRUE BLUE cover (as several posted in this thread) will probably be the over all Iconic image of Madonna in her history. I do agree that there will be younger generations that may think... "that was Madonna?" She's changed her look so many times, I've always wondered long after her death, which image would be used the most that would be associated with Madonna. I feel regarding her music, the TRUE BLUE album cover will be forever used when she is mentioned long after she's gone.
But of course, that all could change within the next 30 years and where she takes her career and life. She seems to have no plans of retiring from the public life, so it all can still change.
Most people now associate her with the long blonde golden locks she's been sporting for more than a decade (on and off). That very well good be the image most people will remember her as. But again and as I mentioned, it all depends on her future. It's not like she had one look like many legends. She's constantly kept changing her look over and over. It's just the last 10 years it's been more the same.
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I'm going to go with my current fav.. which is DEVIL WOULDN'T RECOGNIZE YOU
But honestly, there are so many others I enjoy just as well. LIVE TO TELL still captivates me.
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Apparently "Attitude" has an exclusive
At least they admit that it's 'NOT CONFIRMED' and 'Unofficial'.
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First of all even if this is true...and i don't take a Madonnatribe mention or a French newspaper article as confirmation....but if its true why are you guys upset? all this complaining about how stupid it is...
Its easy not to go....Who cares why she is doing it? If you want to go...go. If you don't...don't.
I agree. I am not sure why some think since Madonnatribe mentioned it, it means it's "official". Not that I doubt Madonnatribe has some inside word about a new or revisited tour, but Madonnatribe doesn't have the "official word".
That said, I find it peculiar she would revisit the same tour almost 7 months later. This isn't like her. But then again, she's always been known do things unexpected.
I'm betting if a tour is planned, it may be really for the compilation owed to Warner. It's possible that it may feature many songs from STICKY & SWEET.
I am one not to complain. Whatever happens, I am happy she's going to tour, but I have a feeling if it is indeed a continuation of STICKY & SWEET, it's only going to visit the European countries as well as Japan and Australia. The U.S. may be bypassed!!
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lets cut to the chase...
SHES A LECHEROUS OLD WHORE ALWAYS PREYING ON THE YOUNG. GIVE IT UP WOMAN.
And she enjoys it. She defies all these silly labels. To me, she's enjoying life, not following rules set by society.
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Ahh, Jesus and Madonna look like they are about to make out!! That'll sure raise some eyebrows!!
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@ this thread!!Flamboyant people can annoy me pretty much from time to time... depend on the situation... my main problem is that they make gays look bad in the public eye and the rest who just are gay have pay for that aswell.... but I wouldn't care though. Let the poor thing have his fun. Actually it's worse with people who are lame and just stand there.
I read a comment that he should be aloud to have as much fun as he wants because he payed for it... well I agree with that, but the people behind him did pay for it aswell, but his freaking arms are all over the place so they can't barely see anything... if there's a problem in this whole thing... that would be it. He may be having fun, but he's obviously egoistic aswell. If I would have been behind him, I would have grabbed those arms and put them in place so I could enjoy the show too.
Well, this is just one small clip from a 2 hour concert. I doubt he was flapping his arms like that through the whole show. It's evident to me, he was emulating the moves Madonna was making. You're assuming far more than you actually know. 2 minutes of this guy, doesn't mean he's egotistic or being rude.
Nevertheless, he's having fun and while I suppose that I can see he could be annoying to some, I think the fact that a fan can just come in here using the word "fag" so loosely to describe this fan is quite awful.
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I suspect this Patrick fellow (never heard of him and after this, don't care to know anymore about him) embellished what happened when he got thrown out. I mean; if the guy was just playing kissy face and purposely mocking Madonna, and who knows what else, I'd say he deserved to get kicked out. But I don't believe he got hurt like he said. If that was true, you can be sure that there would have been some legal action taken. If they only did what he said; the bouncers wouldn't have any reason to rough house these guys unless they were being physical and rough themselves.
The fact he mentions that he suppose he won't listen to Madonna's music after this point, tells me that he probably never did and wasn't much of a fan in the first place.
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maybe she's going to be doing a mini tour to support the greatest hits collection?
doing the sticky and sweet show again sounds really weird and unlike her...i would certainly be bored with doing the show after being on the road for so long doing it over and over again
i would rather she take the time and go to australia and japan if she's going to add some dates...i always feel bad for fans that live in countries that are harder for the tour to go to. i sometimes take for granted that i live in nyc and there's no doubt she'll do a bunch of shows here
I thought this was strange too. I mean; 6 months later, she continues the tour?? That's just not her style. Not that she can't do it, but she's always been the type to move on quickly to another project.
If she's planning to do some shows, I suspect it could be in support of the last collection owed to WARNERS. So I don't think it would be really a continuation of STICKY & SWEET TOUR, but more of a promo deal for something in the works for the collection album.
I think it's just talk though.
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I'll tell you what disgusts me is that while the majority of Madonna's fan base is gay, a member can come on here and use the word "fag" so loosely and negatively.
For the record, I've never made fun of any other artist fan who carried on quite flamboyantly. I suspect; the real problem isn't the guy who is in the crowd dancing and having fun, but the people who are embarrassed for him in this thread, and may have hang ups about their own sexuality or just having fun period.
I never imagined that I'd come to a MADONNA appreciation forum and then read from Madonna fans making fun of other fans who are having fun enjoying a Madonna show!!
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Sticking to the topic...
I do believe the compilation should cater to the fans. As stated, with the digital age, a retrospect like this would basically be something a fan wants to own. And of course, they need to make it worth it. None of that shabby "edit" crap for songs and try to not just release another Immaculate Collection set.
I also agree it should include a disc of rarities. I doubt this will even happen, but this is WB chance to really put a great retrospect of Madonna together. Maybe include a DVD as well.
But then again, I am not sure how much pull Madonna has now with WB, but I'm sure she doesn't want WB to release something which tries to put together something, making her like she's a "has been!" I get the feeling that is why Madonna isn't too much into compilation albums.
Is Madonna more visual than musical?
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The thing is that Madonna never set out to be a musician. And it's apparent to me it was all about being "visual" for Madonna. Madonna came along just as MTV was busting out the seams. She embraced that and molded herself in this visually stunning artist. Along the way, she proved she could produce catchy tunes. But even in her earlier work when people didn't know her as well... before she exploded on the scene, it was about creating an image... a visual. We can definitely see that in many of her appearances before she became famous. Each time she came onto stage for these appearances, she always made sure she and her dancers would have this certain look and attitude. They all had orchestrated the dance moves down to a tee. The persona she was creating had this specific look (which ties into being visual) which eventually every girl and even some guys wanted to adopt.
As the 80's progressed, she made it more and more visual and used the music as a "soundtrack". At the time, VIDEOS were huge, so it was evident she would embrace that. But I must say along the way, she has managed to separate the music as well. And now that she's older, it's becoming harder and hard to be visual since people are having issues with her age. I don't agree with it, but it's pretty much a fact that most people seem to be disgusted at a 50 year old woman wearing the outfits and parading around on stage, accusing her of trying to be younger than she is.
For me, she's an over all entertainer. She'll always be VISUAL, and that is how many people will think of her. Lucky for her, she's had several iconic songs, so people very well may be able to hear the song before coming up with the image, but I think they pretty much go hand in hand when one thinks of Madonna!