neutrocks
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#14 is hardly one of the biggest.... otherwise it is one her best ballads.
Sales may have kept it from charting higher, but it was a huge radio song in the U.S. During that era, it was the one song I could count on hearing on the radio until "I'll Remember" took over. Another big radio song as well. But now, those songs are rarely heard or talked about.
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I find his reasoning hard to believe there, but I wonder if YMLM was removed at the last minute, since that sample of the lyrics is on the title of the album cover - unless that was her way of nodding to it.
This whole "for the fans" business is silly. It was conducted in a slapdash manner over Guy Oseary's twitter. If they wanted fans input, they could have got fans to vote for tracks they wanted on there at her website.
Totally agree how it was conducted. Most fans didn't know about it until after the fact. This was when fans were just learning about Guy had a Twitter account and he was using it often to Tweet about Madonna. It wasn't even mentioned on Madonna.com and/or Icon when it was conducted. Surprise Surprise! You'd think that you'd give heads up to the people who are paying $45 bucks to be part of that club. But no, Guy conducted a low key poll so to speak when people virtually didn't know he was doing it.
Though, the set list is quite good. It seems most agree "Miles Away" and "Hollywood" doesn't belong on it, but at least they are good songs... or at least, I like them very much.
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Yup. Though I'm not seeing what the big deal is about TIC being dead - it was already on its last legs and selling much less than it used to, so the perfect time really.
In a sense, though there should have been a comprehensive 2 disc collection much earlier (GHV2 should never have been released), they had no need as TIC kept selling so well. It sold, what, 1 million this century in the UK?
And anyway, technically TIC is not dead, cause there might be some people who prefer the TIC mixes, so will need to keep buying that.
Assuming they're not used also on this release. 
While I agree, it hardly was a huge seller, but the argument that GHV2 wasn't needed because of TIC selling well, makes no sense. GHV2 was a different collection. It ALMOST picked up from where TIC left off. Certainly, the songs on GHV2 hardly made the impact than the songs on TIC, but it still was a nice time to do another GH's album.
Anyway, I always got the impression Madonna didn't like to do Greatest Hits and that is why she always offered different mixes and edits when she did do it. So I am betting we'll get something slightly different this time around.
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Ok, the 180 minutes dvd thing is just the running time on amazon.The real official thing we know, from the dutch press release and Billboard, is that it's a 2 dvd set.Amazon might be wrong and MAYBE it's 180 minutes on each dvd.Le'ts just wai and see.
I wondered the same when first hearing the 180 mins. I wondered if it was for each DVD. I hope this is the case.
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http://www.youtube.c...h?v=FaQ6d45puJs
OMG! Cute
And What Remix of "Celebration" WAS THAT!?!?!!?!?
Thanks. It contains an excerpt of Achilles Sarcone's Mix. -
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Can't one DVD hold 180 minutes? That's just 4 hours and 20 minutes. Is there a set limit as to what one DVD can hold?
Since it's 2 DVDs, what, only 90 minutes per disc?
BTW- the MadonnaTribe link is gone... uh-oh...
I think I mentioned this in another thread you asked about this sometime back. But yes, one DVD can hold up to 4.7 GB of data/video. The higher the quality the video, the more room it takes. But there is no reason why she can't include up to 3 to 4 hours of videos on one DVD. A lot of movies contain up to that amount, especially with extras. With 2 DVD's she certainly can hold another 3 to 4 hours. Obviously, they aren't using the DVD's to their capacity. What a shame because they could include all her videos simply on one DVD and then on the second include a lot of rare and live footage.
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I guess we can already start eliminating songs/videos that will not be on there:
Holiday
Everybody
Into The Groove
Miles Away
Revolver
Why do you think "Everybody" won't be on there? Though, the fact I hope it's on there, means it probably won't.
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Well if everyone is talking about (good things or bad things) its all good baby, just relax
Not necessarly. A lot of the controversy she's created lately, hasn't profited her well. Specifically, I recall all the hoopla over the "cross" versus NBC cutting it out for the airing of CONFESSIONS. That was left hanging until the airing, and it really didn't draw in the amount of viewers they hoped. And the reply "Waiting" gave is exactly what kinda negativity we're dealing with... and he is supposed to be a fan. Imagine what the non-fans and critics are going to say.
That said, I don't see it as a big deal. Though, I can see some making a big deal about putting Lourdes in a wedding dress emulating her act from the 80's.
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I don't really know what to say - if the tracks are remixed it will be interesting but if they are just polished up then it really makes no difference to me what the listing is as I own everything. At least it won't be the horrendous Q-sound that ruined TIC.
How was it really "ruined/"horrendous"? Q-Sound seem to me was the latest technology before "surround sound" became largely popular? It seemed to me the same concept. I really don't see how it really "ruined it" being you had to have some pretty decent speakers to hear the sound.
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TIC always will be one of my favorite releases, though- unlike the new album, it has the tracks from that era in chronological order, which maximizes the impact.
The tracklisting has some era "clashes"- we have "Music," "Vogue," "4 Minutes" and "Holiday" sequenced together; and then the next "clash" is "Like a Prayer"/"Ray of Light"/"Sorry"/"Express Yourself." Then "Borderline"/"Secret." I'd say that even tho JML is part of TIC era and "Erotica" isn't, not much of a clash there with those two.
On disc 2, there's "Who's That Girl" and "Frozen" bumping into each other, and then "Frozen" bumping into "Miles Away," which then butts heads with "Take a Bow." "Beautiful Stranger" meets "Hollywood", and closing out the hits on disc 2, "Don't Tell Me" precedes 80s classics "Live to Tell" and "Cherish."
I agree the order seems a bit off, butI suspect that is more something fans would be more aware of than anything. Though, I don't doubt that the order could jar the flow of the album.
I'd think that using the majority of the tracks from TIC is a better risk than GHV2 since TIC has had a better run. I expect they still wish to pull sales from the GHV2. However, if that is the case, why pull it from ITUNES??
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BYE BYE MISS THE IMMACULATE COLLECTION!
IMMACULATE COLLECTION IS DEAD NOW!!!!!
GHV2 Still a good buy!!!
Well, Immaculate Collection definitely had a good run. I am hoping this new GH's set will simply be an updated replacement for the Immaculate Collection as well for the fans who enjoyed her work since then.
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I was not pointing fingers at you hon. I was just speaking in general
Oh, i know you weren't, but obviously my response have gotten one or two in such a tizzy that they had to react nasty to me when I was just asking a valid question. And I would suggest for someone who has such issue with my replies to the point they have to use vulgar language, ordering me to "shut the fuck up", maybe they should just put me on ignore from this point on. I certainly want them to go into cardiac arrest because they didn't like because I asked a silly genuine civil question.
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it just wouldn't be fresh Madonna news without a bit of useless drama thrown in the mix
No drama from me. I'm actually speaking in a civil tone. I am not getting upset because someone dared to question the validity of it being "official". What a silly thing to tell someone to "shut the fuck up" over!!
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Please, their track record proves they are a reliable source.
Oh good gawd, please read what I actually post. I never said they WEREN'T a reliable source!!!!! If you read my first reply, you'd see I asked how we know it's "Official"??? I did NOT say that Madonnatribe wasn't reliable!! As stated in my above reply, I would have asked the same of any source.
And Suedehead, what a example you set for others here as a moderator, by telling people to "shut the fuck up" for just asking a valid question. I am not asking anything that may have crossed other people's mind. Good gawd, sometimes you guys can be nasty to others for the most ridiculous reasons!!
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Everybody knows that when Madonnatribe post something it's official even if it's not madonna.com
So no, you are probably the only one thinking it's another fake setlist.Why do you care about the source?I really don't get it.
Actually, I didn't say it was a "fake set list". In fact, I stated that it's likely true. I simply questioned how do we know if it's official? I didn't even bring up Madonnatribe until you quoted me inserting that Madonnatribe is a place for official info. I would have questioned the validity whomever the source was. So you need to get off my back whenever I question the validity of something coming from Madonnatribe.
And why do I care about the source?? Um, duh big red truck... no doubt, if this was any other "unofficial source", you would have questioned the validity of it as well, so I don't get why you assume MT is an official source? In fact, I've seen plenty of info that Madonnatribe has posted that did not come true. And if I am correct, this isn't the first set list Madonnatribe posted.
What I don't really get is why you tend to get offended everytime someone questions MT's info? It's a fan site. The owners will tell you themselves they aren't an official source for news.
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Celine's popularity coz of the Titanic. If only she never recorded that song.
Actually, she had gained a lot of popularity a number of years before with her hit single across the globe... "The Power of Love". She followed that up with a huge hit album "Falling Into You" which was a huge. "Because You Loved Me" was tied to a huge soundtrack and then she did that epic song and video for "It's All Coming Back to Me Now". All in all, she is probably most successful for her soundtrack songs than any other artist aside to maybe Elton John who made a string of hits from The Lion King.
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Weren't there supposed to be three new songs?
There was no official mention of that. Fans assumed that possibility since Oakenfold mentioned in an interview that they worked on three new songs.
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Models aren't forever.
He wants to be a dj, he said that several times during interviews.
Well, more power to him if that's what he wants to do. Though, DJing isn't necessarily a huge gig compared to modeling. Modeling can also lead into other entertainment careers such as acting.
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AGAIN?!?!?!
it's madonnatribe.we KNOW it's official.end of the story.le'ts celebrate.
"AGAIN"??? Not following?
And remind me how Madonnatribe suddenly became an "official source"? Keep in mind, I am not doubting it's not true, but if MT has some official source they are pulling it from, I think that should be mentioned, since anyone could think this is just another set list pulled out of a head of a rabid and wishful thinking fan.
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Jesus wants to be a dj, so I guess she's just helping him.
I thought he wanted to be a model? Anyway, I have no issue he's in the video. It just takes me back to her Tony Ward days. Furthermore, none of us know much about this guy other than his involvement with Madonna, so I don't understand the animosity? It's just a video. And the whole thing is to be a fun video. Who cares if it's Jesus or someone else who is playing the part?
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While I think it's a tight list and most likely accurate, but how do we know this is "official"?? I certainly hope it is though. But for the life of me, I can't understand how "Miles Away" was something to include when there are a number of #1 and #2 songs omitted that are far more memorable from her catalog. In fact, I'd prefer "Give it 2 Me" to be on it, considering it was a minor hit everywhere except Japan. But c'mon when we have classics like "True Blue" and "Causing a Commotion" being ignored and two of her biggest ballads "I'll Remember" and TUTBMP, surely they are going to be more appreciated than "Miles Away".
Anyway, I like the set list. And I do like "Miles Away". I also am excited to see "Burning Up" on that list. I wasn't expecting that. Hopefully both "Everybody" and "Burning Up" will be included on the video/DVD.
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I can't wait! And there is no doubt Lourdes in the weddding dress is going to cause some controversy. Bring it on if so!!
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Actually, if I'm not mistaking, Celine's tour was the second most successful tour for a solo artist (after Madonna). Which IMO is not bad at all.
Well, there you go... I stand corrected. I guess what I was getting at is I don't think Celine could have pulled off multiple top selling tours world-wide like Madonna, but who knows? As I mentioned, she is quite as popular as Madonna world-wide.
"Celebration": Forthcoming Video Discussion
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I don't see how it's such a "tragic mess" or "desperate" to include your own offspring and good friends in a video? It's not like it's the first time she had good friends/boyfriends and family in her videos. If anything, it probably saved her money in casting someone else. And honestly, I can't see what it matters if it's Jesus acting as a DJ or if it was anyone else? It's just a music video where anyone can play the part. It's the same with Lourdes' part. She could have thrown someone else in there, and I'm sure it wouldn't have changed the dynamics of the video. And I highly doubt she twisted Lourdes' arm to do this. I'm sure Lourdes has been itching for Madonna to feature her in something of hers. Maybe this is a nod that she is open for Lourdes to start pursuing an entertainment career of her own.