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one more thing, IMO LAP is more Madonna's desire to get good reviews (as she was also trying for at the time with Speed the Plow) than a result of divorce.
I somewhat agree with this. But I do think she was aiming in trying to evolve and grow from her last albums. I think she purposely wanted to put a "personal" album out there reflecting on her experiences more directly since before LAP, most of her songs were about just having fun and not so personally involved. Before LAP, "Live To Tell" seemed to be the only true track we could say it may been about personal relationship with Sean, but it's so general, it could have had nothing to do with her. And Madonna even stated in an interview back then, the lyrics derived from thinking of the relationship between her own parents, not her own. Another tid bit, if I recall Pat Leonard wrote the song originally (probably just the music?) for another movie before he submitted it to Madonna and envisioned a male singing to the song.
I do think we fans tend to over analyze these lyrics a bit too much. Nothing wrong with that since it does make an interesting discussion as long as everyone realizes most of these songs we can't be sure what the intent was written for. Also, people tend to hold Madonna to every word she speaks and believes she should remember every intent behind every song. She wrote a lot of songs. You can hardly expect her to remember all the details behind writing every song. I'm sure some songs stand out more to her and she remembers precisely how it was conceived while others have escaped her.
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The divorce aspect of LAP is HIGHLY overrated. Not only it was written before the divorce actually got public, it's kind of limited to one song. It's just that one song is one of the most direct messages she ever did. The rest of the album is more "coming of age", "opening up" and "having artistic freedom" than divorce. Oh and it also had a duet with one of the most hyped male artists of the time.
You know what, one can read this and easily be confused which album you are speaking of. I'm assuming you're referring to Like A Prayer since it included a duet with Prince who was just as popular as Madonna at the time. Then we have Hard Candy which included another duet with Justin Timberlake. And I have no issue with either, but I know a lot of people would consider JT "one of the most hyped male artists of the time". Not that I agree JT and Prince are "over hype", but you pretty much allowed me to consider that these albums are similar in that aspect since Hard Candy was also written before the divorce went public. Just like with Sean... Guy and Madonna's marriage had speculated for several years before it ended. So again, there are quite some stark comparisons there.
In any event, I don't see Hard Candy as "divorce album". If anything, it may have been a last ditch effort to patch things up. There is no doubt the two were struggling when she wrote the album. It seemed to me the Divorce was planned long before it was openly admitted. The Hard Candy album was already released and the rumors of her being with A-Rod had begun before anything official was made. In fact, I recall Guy in the summer of 2008 stating their marriage was intact and the two showed up to his movie premiere hand in hand. Of course, people speculated all along.
So I do agree with you and would say BOTH LAP and HARD CANDY were two albums written before anything went official. And knowing albums can take several months to take, both were written and recorded when she and her husbands were still together (or at least trying to work things out before the big D word.) And if I recall correctly, Madonna did start to file divorce in the fall of '88 with Sean but stopped the process, only to start the process again later in the year.
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Yeah, but I definitely think Hard Candy was a knee-jerk reaction to wanting some mainstream success in the U.S. However, I shouldn't really use that as a point of argument because I actually like that album. So I don't really know what I am complaining about.
In the Rolling Stone interview from October though, she did say she prefers singing songs like "Devil Wouldn't Recognize You" even though they are less-pop friendly (and not big hits from the past), and I would love more stuff like that (good lyrics, introspective, etc.)
The thing is; I think she should have released that as a single. Of course, nothing is guaranteed, but that COULD have been a big single for her. It's in the same route of APOLOGIZE and a couple Justin Timberlake big ballad singles. Like it or not, it could have been quite successful in the markets where she didn't do well regarding follow up singles. I honestly thought "Devil..." could have repeated the success of "TAKE A BOW" (in the U.S.) if released as a single accompanied by a big video.
I guess in the end, it doesn't matter because her Sticky and Sweet Tour was huge. That is where the real bread was earned. It would have been nice to have another big single to back it up, but the tour was quite a success.
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Sweet Christ. Get a fucking sense of humor, ok?
Sorry dude, it has nothing to do with having a sense of humor. It's all about the same individuals always dumping on Madonna's personal life. I needn't to get a "sense of humor". Some people just need to "get a life" and stop trying to dictate how Madonna should live hers. It's not like Madonna has ever listen to her fans regarding her personal life and she shouldn't.
Go ahead... bash me. Nothing new!
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What's with the people saying "dump Jesus"?? Fuck, why do you care so much about her personal relationships? It has no bearing on any fan or her career. Some people are so damn silly.
In any event, I expect tours will be her main gig which put more emphasis on her albums. I have a feeling her radio and video making days are pretty much up. No doubt, she'll keep making videos, but not to what the fans expect. Too expensive and she isn't going to spend money on a single song when she can make ten times that back by just going out on the road in support of a new album.
I do think she will be more involved in movies, probably mostly writing and directing. I also suspect if Lourdes is interested in films or being a designer, she will probably help her daughter get her feet in the door. But I hope Lourdes will take initiative to do mostly on her own, so she doesn't come off like she's riding the coat tails of her mother.
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People still use LiveJournal???
Apparently so!
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You guys realize that her comments were distorted. She did not say anything as first mentioned regarding Madonna and exploiting her kids. In fact, she mentioned this on LIVEJOURNAL:
"Ok. I don't know why people love to misquote me but they do. So when I said "children have no say in the matter" with their pictures being taken I am talking about when psycho paparazzi who follow people around and take pictures of their little ones! It happens with me and Noah all the time! I hate it! It is unfair! The kids don't chose that life but there is nothing we can do about it. I just think paps shouldn't be allowed to photograph the kids!
I NEVER said ANYTHING about Madonna or Jolie doing a photo shoot with their kids! That isn't taking them to the playground or for a walk and having a bunch of creepy men flash cameras in their face! Kids should be able to go out in to the world and enjoy it and really live in it. Those photographers take a lot away from their childhood! It is unfair and should not be allowed."
Not that I care one iota about Miley, but you guys can retract the claws now.
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Are we sure this is not just some joke? Him looking forward to the BSB and Nsync reunions souns a little strange ...
Anyway, if this is indeed true, that's the best news in a long time. Mehdi and A trak shit all over Guetta and Oakenfold's tired dance by numbers.
I thought the same... wondering if he was being humorous. Anyway, at this point (like with every album conception), we tend to hear so many rumors, etc., and most of them never are true or they don't come to surface. Also, it's possible that Madonna reached out to a number of producers (like she does with each album) to see who bites and who is interested. Even if she works with them, it doesn't mean it will show up on the new album.
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There's actually been a video clip from the show featuring the song, so this isn't new. Though, I can't find the actual clip, except someone posting slow motion version of it. It may be due to Copyrights that the original intact have been pulled.
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I'll believe it when it happens. And no, this "Anna" isn't Guy O.
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So do we think Live Nation will have more 'direct' input into the making of the album or leave madge to do what she wants?
I don't think Warner had much direct input in what she recorded. It seemed to me she produced the goods and then they may have helped decided what would best for the first single and took charge of promotion.
I think people are putting too much stake into Warner and the influence assumed. And let's remember, Madonna's choice of a lead single was "Give it 2 Me". I don't think that would have made any more of impact as "4 Minutes" did as well as be as successful. At least, with "4 Minutes" it had a popular lead off single.
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Let's remember this down the road when people are arguing and moaning about who broke this story first. This Anna gal (whomever she claims to be??) didn't break this to Madonna fans. We already knew everything that was mentioned.
Anyway, if Madonna is working on something, I can't wait. I am actually surprised she's working so soon on something new. I thought she was hoping to get her script/movie going she's been writing. But I guess she can do both.
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Yes she did a beautiful job in this film. Right up her alley since the majority of the film was miming to sung lyrics. She looked stunning, so did the film. It may not be my cup of tea, but it was entertaining and he singing in this was magnificent. Her singing and seeing her up on the big screen was worth seeing it.
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The point is Madonna is not a rock fan and has never been one.
Really? I don't buy that. In fact, if she wasn't a fan of "rock" she wouldn't have re-invented a number of her songs to have that rock vibe for her tours. Furthermore, I feel Madonna is graduating more and more into putting on ROCK shows. It's apparent to me, she enjoys playing guitar while on tour, but it certainly doesn't mean she's always going to be playing them for every performance. In any event, I welcome a rock album. And I don't believe it would be all loud guitars and screaming. Rock is more than just about screaming vocals and screaming guitars. And over the years, "Rock music" has evolved and spilled over to different genres. If Madonna was going to make a rock album, you can bet it will be more danced and electronic influenced.
I miss those days where she just recorded an album and we barely knew much about it and then just appreciated it. The last time I checked, Madonna is the musician. She has produced music that she wants, not what she thinks the masses want. Does that mean, she'll have a hit with every album? Nope. But any long time fan knows that Madonna does her own thing.
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Oh, I love how the media and fans of her are trying to blame Madonna's refusal to come on the show to why this gal lost. Pleaaaase!! First off, there is proof that winning these talent shows doesn't guarantee you stardom. In fact, some of the most successful people are those who don't win. Anyway, Michael Buble' is a great talent and singer, so she should be honored to be dueting with such a great talent. If she lost, it wasn't due to anything to do with who she sang with. It was either due to her singing or the fact that the others did much better or are more popular than her.
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Can't wait to get my hands on the physical copy. I like the song very much. Don't understand the hate for the song, but to each their own. But with fans like the ones in this thread, who needs critics?
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So this is finally over. Was probably the worst Madonna rumor ever, for 4 months it just couldn't die. And this should be the final proof that Madonnadownload-lighthousemike is not a "source" and he can't be trusted (he started this shit in August).
Well, to be fair, the rumor was based on what Danni Minogue stated in August in exciting to see Madonna on X-Factor this season. So it's possible they were hoping she would appear, but it never panned out.
I knew she wouldn't appear. Even if it was kept secret, I think the key would be knowing she was in England. I don't recall her leaving the states to have time to rehearse and appear on this show.
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I crack up when people think because she came out great in Evita, she would follow up a non-musical with a stellar performance when she never did so before. Certainly, there are a couple films which she did some decent acting such as Dangerous Game, but that film just sucked. The best parts of her acting was the film they were making within the movie. In any event, Evita was right up her alley. She could hardly screw up a two hour music video since she's perfected that. Though, I will admit she emitted much realistic emotion that I've never seen in any other film she did, but again, I've seen her do it in videos as well. It just has something to do with her speaking voice and how when she does speaking roles, she doesn't sound as confident. And when she does, it's almost too confident which results in sounding too fake or unrealistic.
The Next Best Thing is a decent film. Definitely something I can see made for LIFETIME. I'm not going to say her acting was the great, but I enjoyed the film nevertheless. I agree that lighting was bad. Not sure what the hell that was about??
I do have to agree with Zezwer. I wasn't really impressed with that film. She didn't seem to be in it that much and she was, she was simply playing up to the musical persona she created. I'm not even sure she even had to act for that. She just came in and delivered lines as her self. I think the reason why she is praised so much is because it was her first major film which broke out when she was on top of the world. We really didn't have much to compare her to until she started making more films.
My favorite character is the over the top Niki Finn. I will admit "Who's That Girl" is pretty much a dumb movie, but I loved Madonna's character. Or I loved the random multi-personalities she came up with.
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Whether the source is bullshitting or not, I do hope her album is more rock oriented. It's something she hasn't really put a lot of emphasis on within her albums. Her tours have seen more rock, but it's not the same to re-work an old song, rather create something original. I know some hated the rock version of HUNG UP, but it doesn't mean a rock album will sound like that mix. I suspect creating something original that we haven't heard in a rock vibe would be much different than turning one of her old songs into a rock song.
I actually think the whole rock vibe suits her. I loved when she rocked out on songs like "Ray of Light", "Borderline", "American Life", "Burning Up" and "Material Girl" on tour.
Whatever she does, it really needs to be different enough to make an impact and stand out.
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LOL to this thread.
She isn't appearing on X-Factor's finals. MORE B.S!!!
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they're using 4 Minutes for the teaser? A lot of promo for Celebration that's gonna make...
"4 Minutes" was the last huge memorable hit people would associate it with. Certainly, they could used some of her other big hits, but I don't think they are playing any favorites when using music to promote all this.
I wish Madonna would do some more promotion in the states for the Holidays. This is a great time to push the hits compilation.
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She looks great and love how coy she was in that teaser.
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believe me when I say that this is the type of poster that gets really popular around here
Unfortunately, you're right. My day job requires and pays me to tolerate juvenile behavior. I certainly am not coming to a forum on my free time to read this crap.
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UM THIS ICON SHYT JUST NEED TO GO I SWEAR.IM TIRED OF THEM SENDIN ALL THIS OUR WAY WHEN IT NO LONGER MATTER CUZ MA GURL ALREADY DONE IT ALL AND ITS OLD.FUCKIN FANS JUST NEED TO PULL A PETA ON THESE FAN CLUB LAME AZZ FKS AND DEMAND THEY RELEASE THIS CRAP ON TIME OR ELSE WE JUST GUNNA BURN THEIR SHITTY MAGAZINE,OH WAIT THATS RIGHT THOSE LOSERS DUN KNOW HOW TO LICK AN ENVELOPE AND MAIL EM ANYMORE CUZ THEY TOO BUSY LICKIN EACH OTHERS RECTUM 4 HAVING SO-CALLED 'CLOSE' CONNECTION TO OUR MAIN BYTCH.
C'mon MadonnaNation mods and admin. Is the type of posts this community comes down to? Is this the type of member we want posting here, writing vulgar and insulting comments like this? This post is sooo unnecessary and I have to wonder if this isn't some alias of a banned or current member.
Madonna's 12th studio album: David Guetta Confirmed
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Do you realize how many fans would be outraged over this? I can hear it now... fans and critics will start saying she can produce anything new and innovated, so she has to dig through the archives.
I for one would welcome a release as this, but it should be done along side a greatest hits compilation of past hits such as "Celebration". Would make great for an exclusive box set edition. But I suspect that there are some songs Madonna prefer to keep buried and never be released.