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    Trump / US politics thread 🚽

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    Quite honestly i've never seen a more divided nation than the US.

    By the look of things the US will not last more 50 years and will likely collapse and be completely dismantled. I hope that on its final act it doesnt attempt to drag the entire world with it.

    It's time for nations all around the world to start detaching from the US dominance in order to save themselves from an imminent doom.

    Trump / US politics thread 🚽

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    10 minutes ago, beta_test said:

    military bases can exist in foreign countries without occupying them. It actually might have worked out to keep it in that place without having soldiers "on holidays" appearing there. Viktor Yushchenko didn't expell Russian troops either, although they initially supported the actual voter fraud of Yanukovych in 2004

    Of course! And it has been like that ever since 1954! But in early 2014 the new coup self-imposed government passed laws banning the russian language in the entire eastern ukraine including the Crimea region where 90% of the people there speaks russian as their prime language!

    Obviously they felt threatened by this new government and with the complacency of the russians they jumped out of that sinking ship!

    You can bet that if they did not reunited with Russia they would've ended up being bombed to the ground like Donetsk and Lugansk which were left behind for their own luck!

    Trump / US politics thread 🚽

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    21 minutes ago, elijah said:

    yes but it became part of Russia, bitch! Do u know how many territories there are where such referendums can take place? Ask Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Ukraine again...

    Again, the referendum only took place because the people in Crimea did NOT accept the coup self-imposed government of Kiev!

    They basically said "fuck you we have had enough of this shit!" and obviously Russia was very happy to reunite with them, considering that they absolutely despised being part of Ukraine since 1954 when Nikita Kruschev treated them like garbage trading the entire region for ukranian support of his soviet power! 

    Needless to say that since then Russia have a fucking sea port in Sevastopol that by the way connect the russians to the Syrian port in Tartus. They simply could not afford to lose it for the coup self-imposed anti-russian government of Kiev!

    Trump / US politics thread 🚽

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    Just now, spazz said:

    They are slaughtered how could they respond to that question :( 

    if they raise from the dead they would forgive him.

     

    Sad, but it might be true. This is a tough topic. I have no idea how the people who lost everything see the americans now. Some may forgive it all but i guess a huge part of them have blood on their eyes and that is precisely why the US is facing such a danger of an imminent terrorist attack as grave as 9/11, and Trump is thriving on this threat for his own fascist agenda.

    Trump / US politics thread 🚽

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    3 minutes ago, MeakMaker said:

    I have to laugh at some people here still standing by their dear fucked up racist fascist president. Honestly just go to buy some bricks. He might ask you to help him build the wall if you truly support your beloved tyrant. What a disgusting president. What a disgusting people. People should be ashamed of themselves. This is exactly what the Nazi party did with the Jews. They singled them out in order for people to start discriminating against them and not feel bad about it. Don't see them as people. See them as threats. I feel sick to the stomach knwowing some people here are actually standing by this demented pig. Shame on you! 

     

    I'm baffled how people act like "you are with us or against us".

    Can't you realize that people can be against Donald Trump and at the same time despises the "alternative" choice they had during the ellection?

    I don't understand why people MUST ignore everything that Obama did it bad in order to confront the current government.

    Things are not like that. The americans had two very bad choices and no wonder this is a divided nation now.

    Trump / US politics thread 🚽

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    7 minutes ago, spazz said:

    I expected this to happen when i read the previous twitter post which she opposed his immigration ban.

    he will fire all Obama administration.

    I just read that Obama calls for civil disobedience.

    That is the recipe of a civil war... could this actually be on the cards now? a coup or a second american civil war?

    Trump / US politics thread 🚽

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    Mexican president cancels US trip over border wall spat with Trump

     

    President of Mexico Enrique Peña Nieto has canceled his trip to Washington, following US President Donald Trump’s order to begin construction on the border wall between the two countries.

    “This morning we have informed the White House that I will not attend the meeting scheduled for next Tuesday with the [President of the United States],” Nieto announced via Twitter.

    The announcement follows Trump’s tweet earlier on Thursday saying that “If Mexico is unwilling to pay for the badly needed wall, then it would be better to cancel the upcoming meeting.”

    On Wednesday, Trump signed executive orders to begin preparations for construction of the wall along the Mexican border – one of the new president’s key promises from the electoral campaign.

    The orders also beefed up the US Border Patrol and Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and instructed the administration to cut federal funding for “sanctuary cities” that refused to hand over illegal immigrants to law enforcement.

    Trump has insisted that “Mexico would pay for the wall,” while the Mexican government has rejected any suggestion of doing so.

    “I regret and condemn the decision of the United States to continue construction of a wall that, for years, has divided us instead of uniting us,” Nieto said in a brief televised message to his nation on Wednesday. Mexico “will not pay for any wall,” he said.

     

    https://www.rt.com/usa/375193-mexico-president-wont-meet-trump/

    Trump / US politics thread 🚽

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    Trump signs executive order withdrawing US from TPP

     

    With a stroke of a pen, President Donald Trump has unraveled the Trans-Pacific Partnership, withdrawing the US from the controversial free-trade pact. Without Washington’s participation, the TPP would have to be renegotiated or scrapped altogether.

    The largest global trade agreement in 20 years, the TPP would have included the United States, Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore and Vietnam. It was championed by former President Barack Obama as a way to open Asian markets for American goods and create a trade bloc to counter China.

    Opposition to the TPP was one of the key planks of Trump’s presidential campaign, with the billionaire businessman calling the trade pact a “potential disaster” for the US. He said he would prefer bilateral trade deals with individual TPP countries instead. Monday’s executive order signaled the new administration’s determination to address its priorities quickly.

    Vietnam backed out of the pact in November, citing uncertainty created by Trump’s election and the refusal of the US Congress to ratify the TPP.

    Trump has also targeted the North American Free Trade Association, which eliminated commercial barriers between the US, Canada and Mexico during the Clinton administration.

    If Wilbur Ross gets the Senate confirmation to head the Department of Commerce, he will be charged with renegotiating the trade deals, alongside US Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer and chief of the newly established White House Trade Council, Peter Navarro.

    “We are going to start renegotiating on NAFTA, on immigration and on security at the border,” Trump said on Sunday, after the swearing-in ceremony for senior White House staff.

    Trump’s animosity for the TPP was shared by some of the Democrats, led by Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders. His rival in the November 2016 presidential election, Hillary Clinton, initially supported the trade pact.

    On Monday, Trump assembled chief executives of major US corporations at the White House and promised to lower the tax and regulatory burden on doing business within the country. His administration will be scrapping free trade in favor of fair trade, he said.

    “The regulations are going to be cut massively, and the taxes will be cut with them,” Trump said, warning that those who relocate factories will face a “substantial border tax.”

    Trump signed two more executive orders on Monday, freezing all federal government hiring – with the exception of the US military – and prohibiting federal funding to US organizations promoting abortion overseas.

     

    https://www.rt.com/usa/374819-trump-orders-tpp-repeal/

    Trump / US politics thread 🚽

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    3 minutes ago, MeakMaker said:

    How can the leader of the free world be aware of millions of people marching against him and his policies and yet say nothing? They responded to the millions of women and men who were not afraid to voice their convictions with nothing. They dismissed the whole thing by saying pro life organisations will march next Friday and the media won't talk about it. What?

    Just because those people didn't vote for you that doesn't mean they're not honest, tax paying, US citizens. Shouldn't they be acknowledged by their president? Any president with an ounce of decency would at least assure those people he won't implement any anti minorities policies but that's the problem right there Trump will change things for all the minorities groups. I don't know how he wil get away with it. What sort of excuses he will give. But one thing is for sure this new president will only serve the people who voted for him. How tyrannical. How anti democratic. How anti America. Impeach him now. 

     

    It seems that he did say something in a quite Trump-esque controversial fashion....

     

    ‘We just had election!’: Trump puzzled over Women’s March

     

    Protesters should have expressed their opinions during the US election and not after, US President Donald Trump tweeted, commenting on the mass protests following his inauguration.

    “Watched protests yesterday but was under the impression that we just had an election!” Trump tweeted, adding: “Why didn't these people vote?”

    He also said in the tweet that “celebs hurt cause badly,” referring to the statements of a number of celebrities who criticized Trump and his policies.

    He followed this by quickly taking a step back, assuring his Twitter followers that peaceful protests are “a hallmark of our democracy.”

    “Even if I don't always agree, I recognize the rights of people to express their views,” he wrote.

    At the same time, Reince Priebus, Trump's White House chief of staff, accused the media of trying to delegitimize Trump’s presidency, and warned that the new administration is “not going to sit around and take it.”

    On Saturday, Donald Trump’s first full day in the White House, thousands of women marched through US cities to protest against Trump and to call for the protection of civil liberties and diversity, which the protest organizers believe are threatened by Trump’s policies.

    In Washington, as many as 500,000 people reportedly turned up to make the walk from Independence Avenue towards the White House on Pennsylvania Avenue. Sister rallies took place in Japan, Australia, and other countries, while demonstrations were also staged in some European cities, including London, Paris, Barcelona, Dublin, and Milan.

    Trump’s inauguration also saw violent skirmishes break out in parts of Washington, DC on Friday, and people took to the streets from cities across the nation in anti-Trump protests.

     

    https://www.rt.com/usa/374707-trump-woman-march-twitter/

    Trump / US politics thread 🚽

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    US exit from United Nations could become reality with fresh bill

     

    A Republican-proposed House Resolution has quietly slipped past the public radar – proposing that the United States withdraw its membership from the United Nations, just as another bill was being concocted to cut US funding to the body.

    The bill, proposed by Rep. Mike Rogers (R-AL), entitled American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2017, seeks a complete US withdrawal from the UN, that the international body remove its headquarters from New York and that all participation be ceased with the World Health Organization as well.

    Rogers and other prominent Republicans have repeatedly voiced the idea that US taxpayer money should not go to an organization that does not promote US interests – especially one that does not stick up for Israel together with the US. The new document is merely the latest manifestation of sentiment that has been brewing for some time.

    The bill was quietly introduced on January 3 and was passed on to the House Committee on Foreign Affairs. If approved, the bill would take two years to take effect. It would also repeal the United Nations Participation Act of 1945, signed in the aftermath of WWII.

    “The President shall terminate all membership by the United States in the United Nations in any organ, specialized agency, commission, or other formally affiliated body of the United Nations...The United States Mission to the United Nations is closed. Any remaining functions of such office shall not be carried out,”according to the text of HR 193.

    The bill would also prohibit “the authorization of funds for the US assessed or voluntary contribution to the UN,” which would also include any military or peacekeeping expenditures, the use of the US military by the UN, and the loss of “diplomatic immunity for UN officers or employees” on US soil.

    Rogers had tried to pass the same bill in 2015, albeit unsuccessfully.

    “Why should the American taxpayer bankroll an international organization that works against America's interests around the world?” Rogers asked at the time in defense of his idea.

    “The time is now to restore and protect American sovereignty and get out of the United Nations.”

    Another supporter of HR 193, Rend Paul (R-KY) also put it like this in January 2015: “I dislike paying for something that two-bit Third World countries with no freedom attack us and complain about the United States… There’s a lot of reasons why I don’t like the UN, and I think I’d be happy to dissolve it,” added the Kentucky senator.

    Later, in June 2015, Rogers had introduced his document – then named HR 1205, but essentially the same USExit idea he’s proposing now.

    “The UN continues to prove it’s an inefficient bureaucracy and a complete waste of American tax dollars.” Rogers went on to name treaties and actions he believes “attack our rights as US citizens.” These included gun provisions, the imposition of international regulations on American fossil fuels – but more importantly, the UN attack on Israel, by voting to grant Palestine the non-member state ‘permanent observer’ status.

    “Anyone who is not a friend to our ally Israel is not a friend to the United States.”

    That same logic was used this January when House Republicans prepared a legislation that would decrease – even potentially eliminate – US funding to the UN. According to calculations by the conservative Heritage Foundation, the US provides over 22 percent of all UN funding.

    The bill to cut the funding was introduced shortly after the UNSC voted 14-0 to condemn the continued construction of illegal Israeli settlements – the resolution Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu considered a backstab from the US, which declined to veto it, as per former President Barack Obama’s suddenly critical attitude to Israel at the end of his presidency.

    Still, the resolution vote came the same year the Obama administration awarded Israel with its largest military aid package ever, signing a memorandum of understanding in September that would give it $38 billion over 10 years.

    However, with Donald Trump now in power, many Republicans seem to be attacking the idea of participating in the UN or cutting funding with renewed fervor.

    Each year, the US gives approximately $8 billion in mandatory payments and voluntary contributions to the international peace agency and its affiliated organizations. About $3 billion of that sum goes the UN’s regular peacekeeping budgets.

     

    https://www.rt.com/usa/374754-us-leave-united-nations-bill/

     

     

    Trump / US politics thread 🚽

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    4 hours ago, spazz said:

    I am free to express my opinions and expose the facts ,this is political section so don't expect everyone to agree with u.

     

    Exactly. So many members here are secretly wishing for censorship that it's becoming really off-putting to engage on any discussion. People have to understand that different point of views are essential for a civilized society, especially in a political section of a very wide forum full of people of different backgrounds and nationalities.

    Obama Thread

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    On 14/01/2017 at 8:16 PM, MeakMaker said:

    Obama was truly a gift from God after those war-some Bush years. I don't care what people say but maybe people in the US don't realise how much America was hated when Bush was in power. Obama changed that. He truly brought hope to the whole world. The fact that that racial barrier was broken once for all meant so much to people who believe in equality for anyone.

    Of course conservatives hated him and they tried any tricks to get rid of him or just humiliate him. He responded with such class and dignity like only a true president would do. 

    Good luck with racist Trump now. :ugh:

     

    The nobel peace prize winner Obama engaged directly or/and indirectly in wars just as much as Bush. 

    Under the Obama presidency the US bombed 7 countries at least: Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Lybia and Syria.

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