Probed By Greys
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GGW sounds like it has a better chance of becoming a US hit, everywhere else, i'd prefer TUTR.
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The videoclip shows so much more than what the TV had shown and from a different perspective, and proves once again that a Madonna stadium show is fantastic up close but also from afar!
Upclose you notice Madonna's energy more, from far, you notice the stage production more. Its up to the fan to decide what they want. I like to be close, but not too close, that way I can enjoy Madonna and the stage production.
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For so long she's been remixing all her oldies that we really haven't heard an oldie with its original music since the Virgin tour! I'd like an oldie with its original music on this upcoming tour. The vintage sound will surely get the crowd fired up. There are so many songs that this would work for, but the songs I'd love to hear in its original form are:
Angel
Pretender
Stay
Think Of Me
Like A Vigin? I'd love this, but would prefer a song she never performs, like Angel
Any of those songs will be a special treat for the hardcore fans.
I love that she's not lazy and remixes her music on tour, but hearing vintage M music for one song on the tour would create a special moment.
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Her sales have to be really BIG for that to happen, given that her airplay is gonna drop hard.
What she's already accomplished with GMAYL is already impressive due to how long she's been around. Those other artists in the top 10 will not be around in 30 years.
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When I thought GMAYL might be in trouble was when I saw that it was not hitting #1 worldwide right away on iTunes, like Hung Up, Celebration & 4 Minutes did. I was unsure about the US, but expected a quick rise everywhere else. But, it never hit #1, according to this site ( http://kworb.net/pop/ ) Its still not #1 anywhere. That's unexpected for an M single, which points to it being a weak first single.
Personally, I love the song, but the general public doesn't seem to be liking it very much for some reason. Or who knows, maybe the song will turn into a grower? We'll see. Still, it won't be a flop, it will be top 10 worldwide for sure. At most it will just be an under-performing lead single.
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so this is the seating chart Staples Center has on their official site for LA
no wonder Floor 1, 2 and 3 would never come up
and I had Floor 4 Row 1 earlier today and I gave it up, thinking it was too far back.
I hate floor tickets. My favorite sections for concerts at that venue are 111, 112 & 101, 119. I try to always sit there for M concerts.
I highlighted my favorite sections/rows: (I sat there for RIT & CT)
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I don't think anyone expected that. What a record!
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The stage?
That stage looks impressive! It looks like the floor is going to be a screen!
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I liked 'Reinvention' (the name that is.)
Confessions was lazy. Sticky & Sweet lame. Nothing will ever top 'Blond Ambition'
The Girlie Show was also a great tour title.
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She's using the entire stadium in NY! That's going to be a gigantic boxscore!
I'm guessing that in the future M is going to usually use LA's new stadium. LA wise for M its going to be bye bye Staples, hello Farmers Field:
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Madonna Tickets and Concert Dates
According to Ticketmasters this is the seating chart for the New York show at Yankee Stadium…
Is that official? If it is, we know she won't be using a center stage and that the show won't have a catwalk.
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Los Angeles only having room for 1 or 2 shows is quite strange though. Surely that isn't IT?
...or maybe she'll do a staples show and a stadium show?
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Angel
Open Your Heart
Physical Attraction
Who's That Girl
True Blue
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clean cover from the official fb page
I prefer the cover that's just a closeup of her face, it seems like a more iconic image.
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I don't see Live Nation telling her no to a title- she doesn't name them after hits anyway. They either want to keep it as simple as possible for whatever reason, or they just don't have a name yet.
I'm guessing its likely too early in the era for them to decide on a theme for the tour promo. They likely want to wait to see how the era does, the first & 2nd singles. Then they will decided on what to use as a tour title. The example I used with Shakira, the name "Shakira Live" was a place holder for the real name that came later on. Similarly, I'm thinking they will name the tour later on and "Madonna World Tour" is just a place holder. Live Nation did the exact same thing with Shakira, down to the picture and name. This all suggest that its just a place holder tour theme to announce the tour early. The real tour promo theme will come later on once they get a better feel as to what to use, once the era is in full effect.
I'm guessing, that they already have an entire MDNA tour theme ready to go, if they decide to use that. They are just giving themselves time to change things if they come up with a more appealing way to promote the tour later on in the era. They likely also have a cheerleader theme, a GGW theme... etc. Then later on they will decide on the best theme for the tour in a corporate meeting, likely a conference call via phone with the top people in M's management.
As for the actual title, they won't tell Madonna no. But, they will tell her to make a list of possible tour titles. They will then use her list, along with the list the management came up with. And from that, they will come up with the tour name. Live Nation puts a lot of thought into everything.
Early on in her career, what Madonna said, everyone did. But, "Madonna" has become a business. Lots of people rely on her. Lots of money revolves around her and the success of her projects. Its why Madonna does value the opinions of her management/Live Nation. She's not a puppet, she's a smart business woman.
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Poor Madonna is only #1 worldwide with an album that it's not even out, her Super Bowl performance was the biggest thing in tv history, her last tour was the biggest selling tour for a solo artist EVER but yeah, Live Nation doesn't let her have a title for the tour if she wants because you never know, she could FLOP!
After all they did it with Shakira so..
Clearly it was only a matter of time before Madonna fell prey to their corporate puppetry after they'd SO EASILY stripped the biggest selling female. . . Colombian artist of all time of all her choice and artistry
Look, you're thinking like a fan. They are not fans, they are managing her. This is how they think. They know how much Madonna makes, which is why she has such an expensive contract. From that, they only want to go higher. They are trying to maximize the profits. Of course she's not going to have a flop tour. That's Mnation fan talk. This is how they think. If the tour title is associated with an underperforming song, it could lead to slightly lower ticket sales. If the lead single is a hit, then they want the tour title to be associated with the era. But, for Madonna, this has nothing to do with a flop tour. They know that will not happen, they want the title to be as appealing as possible to maximize the exposure and profit of the tour. The albums for Live Nation are pretty much just promo for the tour. They do not care much about the money they make from the album/single sales. For Live Nation, they try to connect EVERYTHING with the tour. That's not what labels in the past have done. Fans are blinded by the big numbers. They see $350 million and laugh, then say "its so much money that Madonna can do anything she wants." Labels see $350 million and think, "how can we get $450 million?"
The album being #1 is irrelevant because they expect it to be #1 due to M's name recognition. They are thinking of the longevity of the project at this point.
Also, obviously Shakira & Madonna are not on the same level. They are aware of that and they aware of what each of their global reach is. They have extremely detailed charts of the demographics of each of them. They are aware of what their appeal and reach is. An example of this would be how Coca Cola handles Coke & Dr Pepper. Obviously Coke is the bigger soda for them, but they do market them similarly because they are both popular sodas.
As for the Superbowl, its yet another example of them handling them similarly. Live Nation got the Superbowl for Madonna and the World Cup for Shakira. GMAYL has a football theme and Waka Waka had a soccer theme. GMAYL was performed at the Superbowl, Waka Waka was performed at the world cup.
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Stop it. Her last tour had a name and she was with Live Nation, and the tickets went on sale right after the album.. Madonna is NOT Shakira.
Her last tour had a big hit though, it was announced when 4 Minutes was already a solid hit worldwide. That's the difference. Record labels are not fans, like we are. They see things much differently. This isn't about them, but about their management. They both have the same type of contact with Live Nation. A similar example would be how people bring up Gaga when trying to see how Interscope will handle Madonna's album. Obviously people here are not comparing Gaga to Madonna. Its about the management, not them as artists.
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Where Shakira leads, Madonna fol...
After three silly / irrelevant tour titles in a row she probably just got sick of naming them for the sake of it.
That wasn't what I said. Its not their decision anymore, its Live Nation. They decide what to call the tours and they tend to think similarly for all the acts they have under contract. Its not about leading or following, its about the same company managing them, Live Nation. If you notice, I didn't mention the past, but the current Live Nation eras for them.
Fans tend to just think of the artists and pretend like they do everything. For example, if Madonna wears something that's similar to something another star wore, what do fans do? They says "so and so copied so and so." The reality is that the stylist is the person that's responsible. Similarly, when dealing with pop stars, it's the management that is responsible for what is going on. Obviously they do value Madonna's opinion and give her creative control, but Live Nation does have the final say in everything.
Saying _______ follows _______ leads is just silly fan talk.
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Madonna World Tour is very ICONIC and since the album is called MDNA it fits. Also, it looke like it's her first album since Erotica without a main theme of look. I mean yes, the them is that she's amazing you can barely see her face/look in the picture (I adore it, btw).
This is all probably a place holder tour theme. If MDNA has some big hits, you can be pretty sure the tour logo, poster and name will change.
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What I wrote. That she doesn't perform in MSG but in the stadium. Which honestly is quite shocking:
Its really not. The demand for her there is so high that she'll make more money off a few stadium shows, and much quicker. Once these older big acts start using stadiums, they never go back. Look at the Rolling Stones, how long has it been since they performed in arenas?
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Madonna World Tour. Don't like it
This all seems familiar, doesn't it? Remember that Shakira wanted her tour to be called "Tour Of Earthly Delights," but due to She Wolf underperforming Live Nation went with "Shakira Live." Later on once she got hits from her Spanish album "Sale El Sol," they changed the name of the tour to "Sale El Sol Tour." I'm guessing Live Nation is doing the exact same thing with Madonna. Live Nation likes the title of the tour to be associated with a hit era/song, if no hit is available they go for a generic name like "Shakira Live" or "Madonna World Tour." If GMAYL is a hit, they will likely change the name of the tour. By calling it "Madonna World Tour" they are assuming the tour will sell based on name recognition alone, not the current era hits.
Live Nation is like that, they put a lot of thought into everything.
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mtribe confirms tour announcement tomorrow
name of tour is simply MADONNA WORLD TOUR
Interesting. Live Nation likely does not want the name of the tour to be associated with an underperforming song/era, so they are going on the safe side and calling it "Madonna World Tour" for now. If GMAYL is successful, they will likely change the name of the tour.
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and you had almost the same section both times!
That's my favorite section. For me, its either that section or front row. The DWT was one of my first concerts. Back then I just got the best available seats and ended up in the back of the floor section. That sucked, I could hardly see. After that experience I ended up being very picky over where my seats where.
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Aww, that's really awesome
You've inspired me to finally do something with my S&S tickets.Getting something memorable custom framed is the way to go because then you can keep it forever
I'm the type that likes to have just a few really nice memorable items over tons of random memorabilia that are just going to end up gathering dust in a closet.My other tickets unfortunately got ripped at the gate:
Those are the ones I kept. I've been to DWT 1x, RIT 3x & CT x2. I didn't go to S&S because it was in a stadium.
Tour 2012
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Isn't this the first time in M's US touring history that she has two back-to-back stadium shows in the same city? Two Yankee Stadium shows is impressive, almost too impressive since they will be tempted to keep doing stadium shows in NYC in the future.