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    J.K. Rowling Faces Criticism for Transgender Comment

    in Politics and World Events

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    On 6/11/2020 at 4:58 PM, karbatal said:

    ^ 1.trans women are real women and there's even a name for being born in the wrong body. Gender dysphoria. 

    2.Not believing it is the equivalent to not believing that you are born gay or lesbian or bi. 

    3.Just the same that a gay person can't help being attracted to people of their same sex, trans people  can't help feeling a sex different to what their genitals say. 

    And very nice of JK to "march" with trans for being discriminated for being trans. Funny because she's never done it.

    4..What really irks me and the reason why I answer in this thread over and over is that no trans woman would fight for the right of being considered a menstrual mammal. And yet that's what this absurda and other people bring about biology. 

    THEY FIGHT TO NOT BEING DISCRIMINATED NOT FOR THEIR RIGHT TO BUY A TAMPAX. 

    They simply hate trans woman. Period.

    whistle

     

    J.K. Rowling Faces Criticism for Transgender Comment

    in Politics and World Events

    Posted

    1 hour ago, IsaacHarris said:

    You know what? I'll go down the rabbit hole with you @Andgon144

     

     

    • Point 1: It's hardly an ENTIRE GENERATION & referring to those that transitioned early in life as "brain damaged, weakened eunuchs" is a bit... HARSH :lol:
    • Point 2: Is there an implication that these gender-non-conforming kids are being encouraged to identify as trans? Kids are NOT as impressionable as we make them out to be: I had girly interests as a child (Sailor Moon, the Spice Girls) but no one could've convinced me that I wasn't a boy. They couldn't convince me that I was heterosexual!
    • Point 3: Ultimately, yes, everyone should be comfortable with their bodies. But what about those that are not? Who are WE to deny what makes THEM feel comfortable? I would imagine that any parent taking their child through the process of hormone therapy understands the long term consequences (if they don't, then surely they're not utilizing Google, which is free). The same goes for any surgical procedures, which are NOT mandatory: no one is forcing anyone to undergo a double mastectomy!

     

     

    • Point 1: Again, who is doing the 'convincing?' The doctors, therapists, parents, society?
    • Point 2: I watched a documentary about that, but those folks are actually FORCED to transition or face jail time, correct?
    • Point 3: People, like JK Rowling, have a right to express their point of view & others have a right to CANCEL/ not support them for those views. That's not new :dazed:

     

     

    There is a small minority of MAPs (minor attracted persons) on social media trying to attach themselves to the LGBT movement, but they're usually dismissed as the outcasts they are & for good reason: ask any person that was sexualized as a child by an adult if that experience was pleasant or consensual. Let's also not forget that pedophilia was around LONG BEFORE any of us were having a discussions about sexuality or gender! That's really an entirely different subject. 

    Hey again thanks for wanting to discuss! 

    As for who is doing the convincing?

    another poster just said social media and. Internet. 

    In addition all mainstream outlet’s: science, drs, entertainment industry etc.

    according to another article I posted earlier, these mainstream outlets have financial/fiscal relationships with the tra billionaires behind this movement  therefore  people will bend the truth or risk Loosing their livelihoods kind of like the women who speak out. 

    There is a lot of online grooming of vulnerable people to become trans. 

    Maybe @nefarious could enlighten us. 

    J.K. Rowling Faces Criticism for Transgender Comment

    in Politics and World Events

    Posted

    1 hour ago, IsaacHarris said:

    Now, I will agree with you there (I don't think any logical person is denying that). Terms like cis- exist because there is such a thing as biology.

     

    Ultimately though, what is your concern? That people shouldn't transition at all? That people are transitioning too early? If you're implying that gay kids can be "brainwashed" into thinking that they are trans, let me ask if YOUR parents could have "convinced" you to live & identify as the opposite sex? I'm actually NOT being a smart ass, I just need clarity.

    Hey thanks for chiming in and being polite. 

    My concern here is that this movement is homophobic and misogynistic. 

    My concern is that trans is being used to cure homosexuality given that in tra logic sexuality is a choice. Straight men can now identify as lesbian women, gay guys identify as straight women etc. 

    Yea kids are ridiculously smart but in no way sound enough to be making lifelong medical decisions. 

     

    J.K. Rowling Faces Criticism for Transgender Comment

    in Politics and World Events

    Posted

    5 minutes ago, nefarious said:

    I am a detransitioned butch lesbian woman. I identified as trans for 10 years because I hated being female and thought that made me a boy. It's been a hard journey into loving myself, to say the least (I've only just switched my gender marker on this website). I'm starting to undo the years of damage that gender ideology has done to me. I really do think butch lesbians and gender non-conforming kids in general are being pushed to transition - or, if that upsets you, perhaps "pushed" is the wrong word. Let's just say peer pressure and social media play a big part. I know I wouldn't have known such a thing as transition was possible without social media sucking me in with false promises.

    Because I've experienced (and still struggle with) gender dysphoria, I have enormous sympathy and respect for trans people. And just because I was wrong in my transition, doesn't mean their journey is the same. Still, I have to say, I stand Jk on this one. Biological sex is a fact. Women are oppressed because of their biological sex, not their "identity", and they deserve sex separate spaces away from men.

    You may disagree with me and that's okay. Can we just agree that the issue really isn't black and white, to say the least.

    Thank you for this 

    I know that there are many butch lesbians out there who feel this way. 

    Nothing wrong with being a masculine-butch woman or  fem guy. 

    J.K. Rowling Faces Criticism for Transgender Comment

    in Politics and World Events

    Posted

    They would say those things about gay men to discredit us but never actually proven. 

    The gay rights movement was actually very innocent in its aims. 

    But the trans is something else: convincing gay men of a biological impossibility-they can become women, no different from my mom and yours. 

    Convincing butch lesbians their interest in butch stuff is indicator of them really being men. 

    So give them drugs and surgeries and make them “straight.” (Homophobia) this is what  Iran does to many LGB people, btw.

    Changing language and pronouns. 

    Transing children for playing with the wrong toys. 

    Canceling people for misgendering trans people. 

    Putting men in women’s spaces 

    and putting straight people in lgb spaces. 

    They gays were never this invasive. 

    unfortunately, the gay movement lead to trans which is going towards pedophilia and other philias. 

    I see many people are drunk off the gender  identity cool aid and disagree with me. That’s ok, I was once drunk too. Lol 

     

     

    J.K. Rowling Faces Criticism for Transgender Comment

    in Politics and World Events

    Posted

    Thing is, 

    Many straight men who transition consider themselves lesbians (think bruce jenner), these types want to stick their dicks in lesbian women, and yell transphobia when a lesbian woman denies them.

    We, however, know that penis in vagina is not homosexuality!

    There are also straight women, who for whatever reason, transition and try to get with gay men and chastise them when gay men aren't interested. 

    Again, we know that homosexuality =/= penis in vagina!

    This is why Jk rowling is saying that sex is a biological fact.

    But apparently everything I've said is transphobic, but really the t movement is homophobic in such a sneaky way. 

    J.K. Rowling Faces Criticism for Transgender Comment

    in Politics and World Events

    Posted

    Idk when you follow the money and see who's behind the trans movement, you start to find a lot of disturbing things.

    For example, an excerpt from this fascinating read: 

    TransYouth Project says: "Right now, we are recruiting children who are gender nonconforming, tomboys, princess boys, intersex, and gender “typical” children."

     "An entire generation of gender non-conforming children that may have otherwise grown up gay are going to grow up to be brain damaged, weakened eunuchs with a medical malpractice lawyer on retainer."

    https://medium.com/@sue.donym1984/inauthentic-selves-the-modern-lgbtq-movement-is-run-by-philanthropic-astroturf-and-based-on-junk-d08eb6aa1a4b

     

    This video was another eye opener.  

     

    "There are consistent findings that gender non conforming kids-boys who prefer traditionally feminine activities and girls who prefer climbing trees and playing with trucks will often go on to become generally healthy gay and lesbian people as adults and sometimes even straight."

    "I would think that ultimately, we'd want kids to be comfortable with themselves and their bodies and this is a better outcome than lifelong hormones with irreversible effects, irreversible surgeries, sterility and struggling to believe the impossible: that they are the opposite sex. which we can never happen."

     

    Leaving this here, not to trigger people, just trying to shed some light as to why some people aren't on board the trans train. Many gay men and lesbians are starting to call this conversion therapy 2.0.

    Read, do your own research, check your sources not once but twice!

     

    btw, these articles were shared to me by a trans person. 

     

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