Samo
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40 minutes ago, karbatal said:
Ok gurrrl
Huh?
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40 minutes ago, dollhouse said:
The album is fucking great and deserves all the glowing reviews it and it will get them from US too
Yup, I like what I heard so far. A lot
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1 hour ago, headonfire said:
@Samo, I get your point, but I disagree, and ultimately I couldn't care less about the GP, who are the first to jump on her and accuse her of the most awful things at every opportunity. Art and creativity stand the test of time, and this record is just further cementing Madonna's place in music history books as a unique legend and creative force.
Of course I would want for people to know Madonna has a new record out, for people to recognise how amazing the music she is creating almost 40 years into her career is, but at the end of the day, all it matters are the fans, those who have been with her in the good and bad moments, those who stand by her when she is unjustly attacked or vilified, those who hold Madonna deeply in their hearts, those who truly 'get' Madonna, who she is, what she stands for, and what she represents to all of us.
Madonna has been releasing music for 4 decades, and despite many challenges put in front of her, she always comes out stronger. Even at this stage in her career, she remains a talking point in cultural discourse, and will continue to until she wishes to stop.
Finally, as for the PR campaign which you called 'rough', I couldn't disagree more. In no way the campaign for RH was better - just different - and to make a statement like 'none of the GP is aware of the album' is just not true, otherwise you wouldn't see articles and articles coming out in the press about Madonna and everything she said and did since the album campaign started. People know, and those who care about her, will go and buy the music.
Everything in this era has been perfect, and much better than what many of the 20 something hip and trendy pop girls of today have been doing. Although more exposure is always good, as I love to see Madonna at every chance I get, I don't see that as something which impacts my appreciation of her music in any way.
So my overall response to what you said is that maybe you should focus more on your own appreciation of the music, and not on what she should be doing, how she should be doing it, and what others think of her.
Ask 10 random people on the street if they know that Madonna has a new Album coming out and I guarantee you not a single one would say yes. Most would be like "she still makes music"
The last era in the US the GP was aware of was Hard Candy, EVERYONE at work talked about 4 Minutes and Justin and Madonna, radio play is SO SO vital
I haven't had a single person at work come up to me and mention Madonna's nee album and everyone knows I'm a huge fan, they're just unaware of it
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4 minutes ago, Pera said:
I hope she does more talk shows, it's been a while since she did something like Fallon or Letterman. A real lengthy interview.
Although I've no idea what counts as a good promo these days, where is she suppose to go to get the biggest audience.
Few people are still buying Magazines, listening to the radio etc.
Yes EVERY icon releasing new music still does magazine covers
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11 hours ago, headonfire said:
THIS WILL BE A DEFINING ALBUM IN HER CAREER, ANOTHER CREATIVE PEAK, ALMOST 40 YEARS INTO IT!
I think and hope you're right, unfortunately unlike Like a Prayer or Ray of Light, the general public won't be aware of it or even that she still makes new music. The PR campaign has been "rough" at best. The PR campaign for Rebel Heart was much better and none of the GP is aware of that album
Madame X should be everywhere, talk show spots playing different characters, Netflix special, major fashion magazine covers etc
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So this Denise Welch in Australia on a show called Loose Women, just went on a nasty anti Madonna rant and mocked her "old tits"
Wow, once again, women hating on and attacking other women
Let's blame the patriarchy!
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5 minutes ago, BlondAmbition1990 said:
if she worked so close with the Reporter over months, i don´t get why she does not get the article to read before it´s release
Right?
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16 minutes ago, rekha said:
I'm pretty sure it will be broadcast but we will have to wait a week to see.
I hope so or at least be up on YouTube
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I like it, had to listen to it multiple times but it's a grower.
Another great video too, this has already been an amazing, visual era for her.
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Just now, jamesshot said:
Samo, men do the same thing just not in the same way.
Nope not straight guys, they always stick together, the wolf pack mentality, dudes will lie for their bros, hence the "all boys club" sayings. The only time straight men don't support other men is if the guy is strereotypically gay, even in 2019, a lot of men are uncomfortable with that, but a straight, red blooded, pussy loving male, gets priveledges . I've had those priveledges too as I'm bisexual but masculine and no one thinks I like dudes too unless I tell them , which I'm open about.
Also I've noticed conservatives always stick together, women and yes liberals in general always "in fight" amongst each other, the "Who's oppressed the most?" Olympics
Shit like this got Trump elected in 2016
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14 minutes ago, Jazzy Jan said:
@Samo I wish you would put as much effort into talking of Madonna's new songs etc as you do to getting stuck into" Liberal women" and saying most women are like that and don't stick together. Your misogyny is breathtakingly transparent. Who cares about those idiots on the View, the Talk etc who are just paid to sprout nonsense. Hardly hard hitting shows.
Come back to us when you want to talk about Piers Morgan, Roger Friedman, Morrissey, Rufas Wainwright, Elton John etc. O'h and make sure you mention how men are so nasty about Madonna etc. When of course, only some men are just as only some women are. Would never judge men on these idiots so please don't judge women on those idiots you keep referring to.
For God's sake, give it a rest.
I do but you can't deny that women never stick together? Everyone knows this and Madonna has been a victim of this her whole career. Most people think third wave feminism is a joke because of this very reason
I see women being hateful, for no reason, to other women EVERYDAY practically, especially at my workplace, they rip each other apart and tear each other down but let's blame the "patriarchy" for how a grown person acts towards another person....
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7 hours ago, justinian said:
She might be most successful....but strangely her number ones in Germany only 4: la Isla bonita, american pie, hung up and 4 minutes
Well Janet Jackson has ZERO #1 hits in Germany
God was she a local star
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3 hours ago, jamesshot said:
Someone mentioned this will be discussed on The View. Most likely. And they will be nasty towards her yet if this were ANY other female, they'd knock themselves out defending, over defending.
If they, by chance, aren't openly nasty towards her (unlikely), their words will drip with sarcasm, eye rolls and all that. They'll make it known they don't like her even if they don't openly act nasty towards her.
But aren't all the women on The View liberal women who stick together to "fight the patriarchy"?
I'm sure they'll have Madonna's back and support her, like strong women do!
Sarcasm....
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4 hours ago, Shaun said:
What do you guys think a Cyndi Lauper forum is like?
The singer who had a couple of hits in the 80s?
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5 hours ago, rekha said:
Whatever the case this is going to be amazing promo!
Is An Audience with Madonna being aired on TV or streamed? If not than it's POINTLESS promo
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8 minutes ago, ursula said:
the woke thing is just another doctrine, and a rather vague one at that. any attempt at directing anyone's personal development equals to putting him to sleep. Imho, the woke people are deep in a coma.
Exactly
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3 minutes ago, pjcowley said:
And because it is your personal experience, that is a universal FACT! YAY!
Love when certain people deceitfully state a semi-positive only to shit all over it seconds later with a BUT conjunction that leads to what sits above...
Are you even for real, or do you just troll out of boredom, just for kicks?
Madonna has said numerous times that women don't support each other and should look at their own behavior towards one another first....
And she's right
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Just now, Herfaceremains said:
One could argue this is a result of said patriarchy. I think that’s M’s entire point, isn’t it? Even if we don’t agree with her, it’s her experience and her decision of how to address that, no? And doesn’t it make more sense to seek to understand her rather than dismiss her, considering this is a Madonna fan forum? I don’t mean that as a dismissal of the validity of your fandom. I’m just playing devil’s advocate.
Ok point noted. I see them from both perspectives, I'm a masculine bisexual guy, in a relationship with a woman for 4 years now, played sports (baseball and hockey) my whole life, was in a frat and have always had predominantly straight guy friends, men always support their bros , most women I know do not, in fact I know so many women that PREFER stereotypical gay guys as friends because they know they'll be a true friend and won't lie to them about how they look or plot against them. I CONSTANTLY hear women say "other women are bitches and are evil" etc
And these are Trump hating "liberal'" young women...
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29 minutes ago, XXL said:
Are you for real?
Yes. It was very well known that she HATED working with all women on ALOTO. Most women would rather work with predominantly men than women, so many women have told me that and if the woman is younger and prettier , forget it, the hate is on
Feminism! Girl power!
LOL
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20 minutes ago, MadFan said:
Madonna is lashing out at the world, not the New York Times. Otherwise, why would she grant an in-depth editorial to a newspaper she feels is a founding father of the patriarchy?
Exactly. It's not like a FOX news newspaper, NYT is very liberal
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17 minutes ago, pjcowley said:
There are plenty of other people in the entertainment world out there that you can follow, since clearly you and your own head have major issues against Madonna.
I do? I love Madonna, I'm just pointing out things she said IN THE PAST, I get that she may not feel this way in 2019 but from my own personal experience, women generally don't support and hate on other women. Men ALWAYS stick together and have their buddies back no matter what, third wave feminists need to look at how they treat fellow women before blaming the "patriarchy"
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1 minute ago, tuckeye said:
madonna thought female journalist was a dumb ass bitch, called her out, also blames the men who own the publication and for her catering to men ass.
makes sense to me.
You mean LIBERAL men, who've written tons of pro women stuff in their magazine and paper?
Again it's between Madonna and the journalist
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14 minutes ago, XXL said:
You are confusing things
Regardless of whether the article was written by a woman or a man one could still make the case for categorising the publication in question, in this case the NYT, as an outlet expressing the attitude and views of the patriarchy. Which is clearly what Madonna thinks about it and highlighted in her IG assessment of the piece. From the title choice to what she thinks the writer chose to focus on rather than what was offered in the actual conversation or time they spent together as a whole
I also majored in journalism, the NYT is very prestigious and the writer ALWAYS gets final say in how she wants her "piece" to come out, so it definitely focused on her age, but that was the FEMALE WRITER'S intent and angle all along
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Just now, XXL said:
No
She's clearly telling you there's a history between her and the NYT in terms of confrontation. It has nothing to do with the writer being a woman. She's simply saying she's unsurprised that they as a publication chose to focus so much on her age (despite talking at length about how often she gets crap for it) and "other trivial things" rather than what was probably offered by Madonna in the encounters
And liberal is a loose word these days. The NYT just like the BBC (to name a parallel scenario) is one of those institutions that love to present narratives with a touch of "because I said so" attached to it .... That is the truth unfortunately and you see that with so many issues that plague the world and how they simplistically present them to the public
We get it, you don't think women can inform opinions themselves or likes or dislikes, you don't see them as having their OWN opinion and own agenda
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Well it is true. But somehow I'm OK with that because the music seems to be good