Samo
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13 minutes ago, metalissimo said:
True Blue and Like a Prayer shouldve been nominated for album of the year
Bedtime Stories was nominated for Best pop album in 1996, wasn’t it?
Yes and TB and possibly LAP probably would have been nominated, had that category existed at the time
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Just now, Flip The Switch said:
Can we please take a moment? Where it all began!
https://www.instagram.com/p/BwPcYnNhVvz/?igshid=1s0w2ro9d6ftp
Dude, I'm still waiting for her actual promotional campaign for the album to kick off....
Oh wait nevermind
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3 minutes ago, side_streets said:
There are plenty of other commercially successful artists that you can follow, if you can't deal with the fact that Madonna is not in her 20s or 30s anymore and that her imperial phase has been over for years.
You should be proud that no other pop artist sounded in 2019 like Madonna.
Ok well since everyone is a above charts and awards, then the chart section should be removed on here
Since we're so hip and "above it all"
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22 minutes ago, metalissimo said:
Shes too old to get Grammy nominations for major categories. Bruce Springsteen doesn't get any Grammy nominations either.
Grammys lean toward young, mainstream acts.
Its sad that back in the 80s when Madonna was young, she didn't get any major category Grammy nominations for Like a Virgin, True Blue or Like a Prayer album.
Crazy For You and Papa Don't Preach got major Grammy nods for Best Female Pop Vocal Performance of 1985 and 1986
There was no Best Pop Album category until 1994 or dance categories
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6 minutes ago, Shaun said:
You’re so overdramatic, it’s ridiculous. All I asked for was for you to back up your claim that it was a “so-called visual album.” You can’t, got it. Do you ever get tired of complaining? Because we’re tired of reading your moaning about magazine covers FIVE months after the fact.
We got nineteen new songs, five music videos, and a critically-acclaimed tour. Her artistic passion is unmatched and we’re beyond lucky that she’s so engaged nearly 35 years into her career. What a waste of energy to continually bitch about the commercial aspect of this inspired project.
And I backed up my claim that it's a "visual album" in that the album's success lie in the visual MX personas, you know that except for that damn eye patch, we never get to see any of them, so the point was Madonna?
It's her job to get it out , her music that she worked so hard on, to as many people as possible
The Madonna of 83/84 would have never allowed this, she made sure everyone knew her
And I stand that she needs to fire Guy, get actual publicity team (this Novak person that was suppose to rehabilitate her PR , hasn't done jack shit) and invest her OWN MONEY in the future of her career if she wants to be thought of as current, who h according to the Billboard interview, she doe
Oh and get back on a real record label
And stop releasing albums in the Spring and going into tour rehearsals right away, PROMOTE it for months, release I October/November, start the PR the summer before, promote until March the following year and then begin tour rehearsals
Basically the COADF, 2005-2006 promo strategy
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3 minutes ago, Shaun said:
You’re so overdramatic, it’s ridiculous. All I asked for was for you to back up your claim that it was a “so-called visual album.” You can’t, got it. Do you ever get tired of complaining? Because we’re tired of reading your moaning about magazine covers FIVE months after the fact.
We got nineteen new songs, five music videos, and a critically-acclaimed tour. Her artistic passion is unmatched and we’re beyond lucky that she’s so engaged nearly 35 years into her career. What a waste of energy to continually bitch about the commercial aspect of this inspired project.
Yes but what's the point of working hard for your art, when you don't get it out to the masses?
Imagine all the iconic moments of her career, WITHOUT the masses picking up on it and without that great promo that she USED to have
They wouldn't be iconic
The end
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1 minute ago, Shaun said:
Madame X was supposed to be a visual album? That’s news to me. @Samo can you point me to where this was confirmed?
I said it's a visual album just as Madonna is a visual artist in that, she's playing different personas on the album, that make up Madame X, not in that she was gonna make a video for every song type visual album...
It's all pointless now anyway, 98% of the general public have no idea about the album or that she's even on tour, her career, legacy and lack of PR push has been an absolute DISGRACE in the last 10 years
There's no other way to put it
It's like a nightmare you can't wake up from
Ashame because RH and MX are good albums
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1 minute ago, lasky said:
Without a traditional record company backing her up, veteran artists will never ever have a chance...
Yup
Imagine if Ray of Light had the same "promotional strategy" (cough, cough) as MX?
Just drop the album after a handful of TV interviews and two performances WORLDWIDE on TV and then immediately go to your rehearsals and not give a single interview or photoshoot for the remainder of 1998....
No TV specials, big magazine covers, awards appearances, etc
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3 minutes ago, dcbyebyebaby said:
And since you brought up 4 Minutes. It was already a hit from the moment it was released. It had Justin Timberlake. She was 49 years old and digital sales were on her side. Also as you said, she was coming off COAF. Its 2019 and none of the older females artists are getting hits or selling well. Madonna already did 10x more promo then Mariah, Celine, and Barbra. No one cared. They pushed Medellin it just didnt catch on.
Where was this promo? ONE US tv performance and ONE in Europe, 2 talk show spots WITHOUT performing, 3 radio interviews and a handful of TV interviews during a press junket... Oh a British Vogue cover and a free , insert New York Times magazine cover....
That's considered 10 times promo?
How, where???
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9 minutes ago, dcbyebyebaby said:
Please. MDNAs "promo" was atrocious. I remember everyone saying how it needed promotion because it was just thrown out to drop of the charts. Hard Candy same as well after the first week of release. Nothing. Madame X had tons of promo. If it had worked you wouldnt be saying anything about the amount of promo.
Also, magazine covers dont sell albums. She did interviews and they did nothing. Promo is different now. Get used to it.
And another thing, since YOU brought up Hard Candy
Warner's pushed the hell out of 4M at radio and Madonna gave DOZENS of US radio interviews for it, she gave like 3 I think for MX, so Madonna didn't have to do a million live performances, not to mention the song was used in Sunsilk commercials, one that premiered during the 2008 Superbowl and it worked and received 3 Grammy nominations, the album did
Knowing that radio won't touch her new stuff and her so called label won't push her , you would think that would push her to PROMO like crazy
Where's the Sunsilk commercial type tie in, where's the radio deal, where is Madonna giving radio interviews to EVERY major radio station that could potentially play her?
She did it for 4M
That drive is no longer there
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1 minute ago, dcbyebyebaby said:
Please. MDNAs "promo" was atrocious. I remember everyone saying how it needed promotion because it was just thrown out to drop of the charts. Hard Candy same as well after the first week of release. Nothing. Madame X had tons of promo. If it had worked you wouldnt be saying anything about the amount of promo.
Also, magazine covers dont sell albums. She did interviews and they did nothing. Promo is different now. Get used to it.
Hard Candy got promo and spent like 37 weeks on the charts, which is more than her last 3 albums COMBINED
It did well, #9 top selling album of 2008 worldwide of course it was coming off the COADF high
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1 hour ago, boy skeffington said:
Her goal isn't Grammy awards and acclaim. We got 5 amazing videos and actual promotional strategy until the tour. It SUCKS she doesn't get accolades but it's likely she never will again. She knows this. I'd hate to see her campaigning. If Bruce isn't getting nominated there's no way she will. That ship has sailed for now.
Madonna makes the decisions, so hating Guy is fine but really. She just put her music on Stranger Things and it did exactly what it was supposed to do...promote her to new audiences. It wouldn't have made any Madame X song more of a hit.
What promotional strategy? This is one of her least promoted albums ever
Barely any magazine covers, no interviews for the tour or tour rehearsals, nothing
A dinky 30 minute documentary just tossed , without promo, on Amazon. She could have done a major two hour documentary film and promoted it's release as well
Rebel Heart had an EXCELLENT promo campaign
Hell even MDNA had a better promo push than MX
I still have yet even really SEEN all those MX personas she was carrying on about
Well you barely do any photo shoots anymore...
For such a so called visual album
A huge fail...
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Her PR is a disaster, she barely promotes and goes right into tour rehearsals and forgets she released an album
I mean, knowing radio won't play her new stuff, why didn't she herself pay for a radio deal for Medillian, why didn't she do more performances or promo? Why didn't she have a popular TV series, movie or commercial use the song ?
That fire is long gone, been gone since Confessions
Shit management, non existent PR, legacy severely damaged the last 10 years etc
FIRE GUY
FIRE GUY
FIRE GUY
Go back to a REAL record label too
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2 hours ago, Monsieur X said:
I don’t look forward to movies sorry
Exactly
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1 hour ago, Aries said:
watching one of her singles climb "back in the day" was always exciting and kept the momentum going...but sadly she doesn't chart anymore
Like every female pop artist in her age range, sometimes younger
I like the album but don't post much on here because of the negativity and to tell you the truth, i am EXTREMELY unhappy with the piss poor Promo for this album
The RH promo was great but for MX it was pretty bad/non existent
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5 hours ago, brestol1 said:
I live in the US and I guarantee you that none of MTV channels played her videos 24/7 as you mentioned in your response. Unfortunately and sadly she is no longer relevant for this country.
ALL MTV channels played Madonna leading up to the Medilian premiere, there were even commercials for it and her videography, there were videos played that I hadn't seen in years and I have about 12 one hour video thons Madonna specials saved on my DVR from April from MTV Classic and regular MTV
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16 minutes ago, HolidayGuy said:
I believe it was the day leading up to "Medellin" that a couple of MTV channels played all-Madonna videos.
Again, the VMAs have become a public-voting "awards" show, so they're not what they once were.
THIS
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14 hours ago, reQuiem4adream said:
They really embrace her, unlike her home country!
Uh ALL MTV channels in the US played nonstop Madonna 24/7 the week leading up to the Medillan video premiere
I would not comment if you are not in the US
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14 hours ago, Jazzy Jan said:
In the latest issue of Australian quarterly magazine " Women in pop" this is the " last word" on the last page. Takes up the whole page and is wonderful. This picture and this quote from Madonna - below. There is also a huge long article on the 30th anniversary of Like a Prayer. Will type it out over the week. It is very long
Here is the Madonna picture and quote. This magazine adores Madonna and always praises her completely
LAST WORD
" Women have been so oppressed for so long they believe what men have to say about them. To the doubters and naysayers and everyone who gave me hell and said I could not, that I would not or I must not - your resistance made me stronger, made me push harder. Made me the fighter that I am today. It made me the women that I am today"
Madonna.
Nice and thanks for posting but isn't Gags on the cover of that Issue?
It will stop me from buying it
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20 minutes ago, karbatal said:
Maybe she's a Cindy Lauper fan?
Cyndi Lauper? What is this 1985?
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29 minutes ago, juliebean said:
Yea. I hate to admit i was a little disappointing in the promotion for MX I would of liked more performances even if on talk shows.
Yup
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4 hours ago, jonski43 said:
I remember MDNA era was all over in two months. We were all in shock. The singles tanked and everything seemed focussed on the tour.
The singles for RH were more drawn out but still promotion was only over a few weeks.
It was the start of Madonna's wilderness period I still feel we're in where her albums are pretty much done after a month of release.
Still, we've got two months speculation about the tour!
Promotion for Rebel Heart was INSANE compared to MX
Versace campaign, Interview, Mojo, Rolling Stone, Cosmopolitan, Vanity Fair Italia magazine covers, Johnathan Ross, Howard Stern, Madonna week on Ellen for five days, countless press junket interviews, Jimmy Fallon, Coachella, Brit Awards, Grammy Awards, I Heart Radio Awards, multiple radio Interviews, 2 part TODAY Show Interview, performances on multiple TV shows in Europe, more interviews in Time magazine, OUT, Billboard, Us Weekly and Entertainment Weekly, The New York Times and The New York Daily News, 3 music videos, special all Madonna edition of Rolling Stone magazine to tie in to the tour launch, another Interview cover for the tour launch etc.
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2 hours ago, dollhouse said:
selling albums is not profitable anyway isnt it? The moneys on Touring and shes made a fortune aftet WB years of it
Yup not in the last 10 years anyway so Madonna now has ZERO fucks to give!
Warner's would of NEVER allowed her to release a God Control video when she was with them as their meal ticket, selling shitloads of albums and singles from.84-09
I feel like she's happy now and enjoying her creative freedom.
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I think that with her away from Warner's since 2012, Madonna has more leeway to be political and controversial, Warner's most definitely reigned her in when she was with them, because she was their Cash cow
I mean Madonna has ALWAYS been a commercial artist, she's "pop", pop is commercial, the polar opposite of being a "cult artist", and Warner's spent a FORTUNE on PR campaigns for many of her albums, she was always expected to sell a certain amount of albums with them and generally she did, even her under performing albums with Warner's, Erotica and American Life were falsley called flops at 6-7 and 4-5 million units sold Worldwide, simply because she's a massive seller and those albums would be considered hits for virtually anyone else
Her numbers from 1984-2009 were extraordinary from a commercial perspective
Now she has ZERO fucks to give and maybe she has moved into more of a "cult" place like Bowie and Prince the majority of their careers, but she certainly wasn't in a cult place even 10 years ago, she was packaged, and she packaged herself, to appeal to the masses, with COADF she succeeded at appealing to the masses
Madame X album general discussion
in ARCHIVE - The MADAME X Forum
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I don't follow those acts so I wouldn't know
I still don't feel she did enough for the album
I'm not being overdramatic, I'm passionate, like when the Cowboys, my favorite football team, lost that game they should have won two weeks ago and I was posting, "Fire Garrett" , their head coach all over social media
Same with Guy O. Fire him