GregVsMatt
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That's "Justify My Thug" by Jay Z - has been out for years
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I won't go into too much details but M prevented me from taking my life as a teenager who was heavily bullied for a perceived learning disability simply by being my obsession and guide in life and constantly releasing product during my high school years 1989-1993 - the simplest way to put it is that the times I was close to ending it, a new single, album, music video or magazine cover was announced or arrived and I always thought "well I'll stick around until this comes out" - kind of sad but may explain my obsession as an Aussie collector and fan.
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Neither!!!! My two least favourite M singles of all time
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Ha ha ha ha
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The Girlie Show in Sydney was the best for vocals alone
S+S felt like the sound was too altered - Borderline was awful mixing album vocals from 1983 with live from 2008 - MDNA was great except it felt like I was watching it on Instagram with all the filters and Turn Up The Radio clothing changes etc
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He is fucking repulsive
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I really only listen to the Pharrell produced tracks now
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My thoughts are the Timbaland / Timberlake sound hasn't aged so well compared to the tracks produced by Pharrell - eg Give It 2 Me and She's Not Me still sound amazing - my thoughts are that as a whole, the album hasn't aged as well as COADF and I am not a huge fan of the artwork.
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Madonna - no change
Like A Virgin - all releases plus a full single release of Over And Over in early 1986
True Blue - no change
WTG Soundtrack - no change
You Can Dance - Full single releases for Spotlight and Where's The Party into early 1988
LIke A Prayer - No change except Til Death Do Us Part as the 5th single followed by Keep It Together as the 6th and Dear Jessie as the 7th
I'm Breathless - no change
The Immmaculate Collection - no change
Erotica - no change
Bedtime Stories - no change
Something To Remember - no change
Evita - no change
Ray Of Light - no change
TNBT - don't bother with anything from this
Music - Impressive Instant / Gone as double a-side 4th single
American Life - no AL, renamed Xstatic Process with DAD, Hollywood and Nothing Fails as singles
Confessions On A Dancefloor - no change - just add Let IT Will Be as a 5th single
Hard Candy - 4 Minutes, Give It To Me, The Beat Goes On, She's Not Me
Celebration - no change
MDNA - Turn Up The Radio, Girl Gone Wild, Gang Bang, I'm Addicted
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Ha ha I will watch it tonight
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Awesome work!!!!!!!!
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Here in Australia we got the following to promote live releases:
VT - Over And Over
WTG - Into The Groove
IBWM - Like A Virgin, Holiday
DWT - Holiday
CT - Jump
And no videos were aired for S+S or MDNA
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In Australia we got Over And Over as the video to promote The Virgin Tour release
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I was disgusted by that too - leave the guy alone I say
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This might sound strange coming from me who growing up slept surrounded by M images - I've never ever dreamt of her sadly
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I think that's more on a indication of no competition for new music DVD releases at the time - it's the same mix of devoted fans and the remaining casual fans picking it up along with collectors like me who bought the DVD, Blu Ray and DVD/CD combo - there is still demand for Madonna to tour Australia but as I said, fans will expect to see all the hits they have never seen live
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Good comments Peter, I personally hold no anger as I know that M and Guy took the feedback and anger from Australian fans on board and from that might come an Australian tour. I'm flying to London next tour and this is because I can't risk being let down again and having being burnt so many times, I won't risk further disappointment.
Fans overseas often don't understand and attack Aussie fans as not "real fans" for not flying across the world to see her - that's something I cop a few times a year and the other comment we cop is "stop acting like she owes you a tour" which is just ignorant - if Madonna had no intention of touring, she should never have promised eg in interviews in 1998, 1999, 2000, 2003, 2005 and in the 2006 apology along with Guy's promises on Twitter including his infamous "IT WILL HAPPEN" tweet - this makes Aussie fans believe she will tour and I'm personally happy these promises have stopped and that M wisely didn't promise to tour Australia on the "next tour" in 2012 apology.
It is hard being on social media and international forums and a tour announcement for me generally means hours scanning for details, watching clips on YouTube and reading about the amazing experiences of other fans. The MDNA tour was the worst, it's like being told you're being invited to a party and then the invitation never comes and you get told eventually sorry and then you just look at the photos and videos from the party and wonder why you couldn't go. It's tough hey.
Until she tours Australia, it will always be a sore point for fans - it seems rejection is not the greatest aphrodisiac in this case lol
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Ivy, I understand your responses. I believe M and Guy learnt a valuable lesson with the MDNA mess - next time I feel there will be no promises or announcements - just an on sale date when the tour is ready to go on sale. Working in the ticketing industry for 6 years, I knew the extensive delay after the South America dates went on sale meant something was up hence my constant tweets to Guy and messages to Live Nation. Guy has not commented on Australia since Madonna's apology and I know that M's team knows the damage and hurt it caused Australian fans - this was the closest we had been in 20 years to a tour and it was different from the usual "no Australian dates" assumption like the other tours.
It's no secret that since the 2006 Confessions Tour snub and apology, Madonna's sales declined - Hard Candy did good based on 4 Minutes and that was M's last Aussie hit single to date. As the media ramped up the "Madonna hates Australia" stories during 2008 and artists like Pink dominated the Aussie touring market, Madonna's popularity has dropped significantly as evidenced by disappointing sales of the Celebration album and MDNA debuting #1 thanks to the remaining fans and then out of the Top 40 in it's 4th week with no hit singles or radio play. Madonna was slaughtered by the Australian media and attacked by fans on Twitter for the cancellation of the tour and at Madonna Australia we've spent the past 18 months connecting the Australian fan base so we can promote any future releases and obviously encourage hope for a tour.
Try and let the anger go, Ivy - it's outside our control.
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I'm comfortable sharing info I know I can share Carta - it's thanks to people like Hector and MadonnaNation on Twitter that I have become quiet well known by M fans around the world and even people on M's team know of me and of course Madonna Australia. Social media has connected me with people and I am trusted with information at times. It's also my way of connecting as you would understand, being Australian and never involved in touring or events or fan meet-ups can feel isolating - that's why this thread and rare events like the Brisbane Madonna Party are so valuable.
On the flipside there are people who give me shit for it along with shit for having a large collection and not flying overseas for the last 5 tours to see M - I think if you live in a city where you see all the tours, it's hard to understand what the Aussie fans go through each time a tour is coming .
I do know the fans you mean who have the demos and unreleased photos and for me, it's another form of collecting. I buy physical items while for some fans it's that unreleased song. We benefit only when those fans have a disagreement and demos are leaked out of spite lol
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Hi Carta, I was told by Warner in 2000 that the tour was to open in Australia and they had been asked to issue a tour edition of Music - which they still released in Australian stores even though the tour plans were cancelled - Warner told me on the phone the tour was cancelled and as I worked at Ticketek from 1994-2000 I called a friend that still worked there and they said the Brisbane Entertainment Centre was booked for 3 night for M and then the tentative booking was cancelled
The MDNA tour info was provided to me around 6 months ago and is common knowledge off the record - before that I honestly believed it was purely a personal decision which to me didn't make sense - now it makes sense.
And yes, I do believe a tour of Australia is unlikely - part of me still has hope - the rest of me is saving for London
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I agree an Australian tour would sell very well, this won't be a popular opinion however given casual Australian fans would only know Papa Don't Preach (90 second version) , Express Yourself, Open Your Heart, Justify My Love (remixed) , Vogue (edited) , Human Nature and Like A Prayer along with heavily altered versions of Hung Up and Like A Virgin, I think the MDNA tour would not have gone down well and the reviews would have focused on the MDNA album's brief chart appearance and lack of hits on the setlist after a 2 decade absence.
S+S and CT would have gone very well due to the current hits and classic hits mix where as the MDNA tour did not contain any "current hits" as such and while I would have loved the MDNA show, I can just hear my mates slamming it as they did when they saw the DVD. They just didn't get it's brilliance sadly.
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It means basically that in order cover the cost of shipping equipment to Australia, venue hire, advertising, insurance and all other costs and turn a profit they needed to guarantee M a minimum amount/profit per night and this couldn't be agreed allegedly - same issue as 2008 and I believe in when venues were booked and just a week before tickets were due to go on sale, Madonna cancelled her plans and decided to end the tour in December which I suspect was a combination of financial, family and also basically to take a break at the end of a gruelling tour. We know M never talks finances so hence the apology focused on family.
The gaurantee of a profit per show has always been an issue for Madonna touring Australia which is why the Who's That Girl tour plans never happened and after these negotiations fell through, Aussie promoters negotiated for 5 years to get a tour which was The Girlie Show, negotiations fell through to open the Drowned World Tour in Australia and since then it's been an issue - signing with Live Nation was the closest we've been to getting a tour and if they can't make it happen I'm not sure it ever will. Guy working with U2 could be a good thing as they always tour Australia.
It's hard to know how the next tour will be received if she comes to Australia - the biggest challenge will be if hits will be on the setlist after a 20+ year absence and I guess what do you say to a fan base who has given 30 years of support including almost non-stop #1 albums in the last 2 decades, all the promises and the apologies etc when you finally tour. I think S+S was the opportunity to make it up given there was even a second leg and each time she promises and cancels, more casual fans in Australia abandon her. The only way she can guarantee sold out stadium shows is to do a hits tour which is not the next tour so my feeling is we will get an Aussie tour when she is ready to a hits tour and not before.
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Hey Carta, I will tell you what I know from people who were connected to the tour - the Australian cancellation was because Live Nation Australia could not secure financial guarantees for a minimum amount per show. This is what delayed the dates being announced pre-June 2012 and in the end I'm told it was Madonna's decision as it became just too hard to make Australia work at the end of a long tour. I was told had MDNA opened it Australia it would have gone ahead. It was similar to the 2008 plans falling through - simply financial. Guy has been very quiet since and that's because I believe he was burnt by his promises and "It will happen" tweets being thrown back at him on Twitter and in the Australian media as recently as last week. Madonna's apology at the end of the European leg was when she became aware of the negative feedback on social media and felt she needed to respond as after almost 3 months, there was no response from Live Nation, Madonna, Liz or Guy around the cancellation so I believe her recording the message was damage control - unfortunately for her it coincided with the launch day of Material Girl aka Material World fashion line in Australia so again the sincerity was questioned.
My personal belief is that if Australia is early in the schedule, it will happen. If not, then here we go again. I think the best approach is, if you can afford it, fly overseas as after 20 years, I can't wait anymore.
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On the next tour I want Like A Prayer live simply because I've never seen it live - even if she just does it at the Australian shows (if she chooses to tour here)
Thoughts??
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I was horrified by this and even worse, it's a bus tour of Bay City