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  1. No im referring to the persona, Madonna. What do i care about private life Madonna? I am referring to the celebrity, Madonna. I am working with the persona that is put forward to the public and is well established. Im not saying its her only one.

    We are talking about public personas.

    Unless you're referring to the TOD atmosphere which was meant to be so on purpose, you will be hard pressed to find anyone who's actually known Madonna who would describe Madonna's personal or professional conduct as bitchy, cold, unkind, exploitative or any of those negative connotations

    Arsenio Hall 1992: "what astounds me is that she puts up this facade of bad assness but she's one of the sweetest girls out there"

  2. Hey XXL, I dont understand your logic when comparing these two items so hard for me to respond. Im not sure what either have to do with one another.

    A bitchy person from inside a bitchy persons inner circle being bitchy in a harmless way in an interview. (who cares? - especially when its about someone who does the same thing to others, arguably, in a more vicious way.)

    This issue:

    A one percenter taking advantage of a tax benefit meant for the ninety nine percenters is fucked up especially when said one percenter takes positions of being in support of a better world, earth, equality and all sorts of other liberal and fair ideas. Just feels hypocritical to me. No need to argue this as theres nothing to argue here. That said, Im in no way surprised at all by this move. Just never been a fan of this side of her. Luckily, I can focus on her music.

    "The Madonna you can't stand"? I'm not following your logic

    You don't have a problem with Niki Harris being blatantly bitchy and bitter about not getting the call for RIT while looking high on some trashy late summer night tabloid TV programme but you think Madonna is doing something wrong by planting some trees in her own bought land? She's thrifty, we know that, she's not doing anything illegal and the people complaining wouldn't give a shit if it wasn't Madonna, rich woman vs any random loaded hedge fund manager, like other posters have said. These people are jealous as fuck, that's all there is to it

    "She doesn't want people seeing her ride AND FALL" Doesn't that tell you everything about those supposed neighbouring protesters?

  3. this is the Madonna that I cant stand.

    If you're going to fight the fight and stand for disenfranchised people and be a democrat and liberal, do it all the way. Take all those tax breaks meant for farmers and donate it publicly to help support change especially around these ridiculous tax loopholes and crooks that let her get away with this.

  4. Wow! Where did you get it? I remember seeing an Erotica VHS on listed Amazon a while ago, but I never bought it.

    My cousin worked for a music video production house. Completely blanking on the name but its the one that represented Mark Romanek and Jonas Aukerland at that time. This was like 2003ish or whenever the Hollywood video had come out.

    Anyway, I asked her to get me Madonna videos. Through some bartering with the archives guy, she was able to get me a giant box of madonna promo videos. There was good stuff but nothing as good as that Erotica promo vid. They're all sitting around somewhere still.

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  5. This original press sheet surfaced a few years ago

    I can't find the uncropped sheet, it's out there somewhere

    Says there was a physical video release for both Erotica and Bad Girl, both being x-rated.

    I don't know how real it is. As according to Shep's Erotica diaries, Goodbye to Innocence was already out of the picture by the time Fever was recorded. So I find the tracklist and the whole thing questionable.....

    Whoop - I thought that GTI was orignally slated for release until Fever came into the picture last minute and they basically took the beat of GTI for it so essentially they swapped GTI with Fever.

  6. Reading the parts about Madonna, I didnt necessarily pick up that Nile's didnt listen to Rebel Heart or did. He just expressed that the next time he works with her, he wants to produce a sound that isnt exactly what they did before but a level that fits what she has accomplished....extraordinary. He never suggested that she's not currently doing that but thats what HE would be doing with her.

    I would love to hear what Niles and Madonna would do today. Sounds perfect actually. Madonna hasnt really worked with any of her 80's, early 90's producers in a very long time and I think that could make for some exciting art.

  7. You really are pushing it dear, and you have provided no substantial evidence.

    Whoop....im not pushing anything. This is what I feel happened.

    You feel otherwise. That is fair. You havent provided any substantial evidence either.

    Madonna having a horse-riding accident and alternatively faking one to get some work done on her face and can both be possible and get her press.

    I have no need to rule either scenario out.

    Im more shocked that she was able to put on that amazing performance of Hung up on Nov.3rd 2005, which would have been 10 weeks after her ribs, hand and clavicle broke. Lets say at minimum 2 weeks to heal though from what I read online, it could take upwards of 5 weeks to 2 months for broken ribs to heal.

  8. What date was the toronto premiere? The toronto face looks significantly better than the live8 face and may in fact be the result of a fresh surgery as it does take time for the new face to set in.

    Also, the motorola face looks significantly better than her faces from earlier that year.

    Im not a cosmetic surgery expert but here's what the internet had on a facelift:

    • Following surgery your entire head will be bandaged. The bandage may feel tight at first because it is meant to apply an even pressure to your face, neck and head to minimize bruising and swelling. The bandages are usually removed one day after surgery.

    Even if Madonna had bandages on for longer, that would have still given her several days before she was photographed again.

    Again, im not convinced but do appreciate everyone providing what they feel is evidence...though nothing really substantial.

  9. I don't need to send you proof of her losing all that muscle mass. Look at her pics during Live8 then look at her first round of interviews for concessions in October of 2005. Her arms looked like sticks. Particularly her left arm, the arm she couldn't use.

    She got an extreme (or more obvious let's say) face lift or tightening (whatever) in Late 07 or early 08 and unveiled that in Berlin.

    She said numerous times that she never ruled out plastic surgery - the first in people magazine in 2003 and the second time to Liz smith in the post a few years later

    Don't act like this woman is a Jackson who tried to deny all the work she's had done. She's not an idiot.

    I never said she "denied" it but as a savvy marketer she understands the mockery that would ensue if she had disappeared for several months and came back looking that good. This was THE major reconstruction.

    Again, your theory on arms could also be due to her plastic surgery? right? Either of those would cause her to lose weight so again none of your examples are exclusive to a horse riding accident. They could all apply to a major face reconstruction.

    I also agree with loomer. She had mini surgeries well before, including before ray of light and again when she made that pink grammys appearance and looked stunning but the major one, the serious change was mid 05, right after live aid.

    Im not going to get into the jackson comment but like Madonna said before she's not against cosmetic surgery but doesnt need to advertise it.

  10. We've heard this bullshit theory before on this forum, if only you knew what company you were in for believing it.

    We all know Madonna has had plastic surgery. She hasn't even denied it herself. -

    To suggest she needed to fake a dehabiliting injury, lose 20 lbs of muscle mass to make the story hold water, is preposterous especially when the work she had done was so minor. Her big face change came 2 years later in 08 and she didn't even go away for that long to try and hide it. And didn't need to break an additional 8 bones to hide it.

    bullshit theory = your opinion.

    denied comment = she hasnt denied it nor has she admitted to it.

    Send proof of her losing 20lbs and even if she did, doesnt matter. cute thought but doesnt hold water.

    Knowing that she had to go under the knife for what was her most serious face altering reconstruction right before confessions was a perfect reason for her to use horse riding accident to go off public radar.

    Whats she gonna say otherwise? Getting my face redone? Makes no sense to me. I, nor you, have any proof that a horse riding accident even occurred. I want to see medical papers not media.

    Her face was significantly changed and she subsequently put out some of her best physical performances not much longer after the "horse riding accident" time-off.

    The face changes of 08 seem more injectable in nature, puffy cheeks, etc to help freshen up the major change of 05.

    Again most of us dont know her official cosmetic surgery schedule but have our set of insiders that share what they know that we present here so again dont flip out. We can all discuss and share our theories and perspectives.

  11. Im convinced it was also look related. Some folks like to call that time off "the horse riding accident" but the truth is, it was due to her mega major facial surgery. There was no horse riding accident. What we got was a stunning face when she returned for coadf and really it felt like she herself felt attractive again.

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    Those fucking Stella Boots, Stephen, Whoop !!!

    I think she woke up from a fuzzy dream when the horse threw her off its back. Next thing we know she goes from feeding chicken in Vogue to wearing a pink leotard. I love American Life though.

    These years are also known as the green "Argyle sweater" years

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