Rebel Heartbreaker
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I guess for a lot of us, the demos are the closest we will ever be in getting anywhere close to the 'recording process'. It would be an amazing experience to sit on an actual recording session, but alas this will not happen for 99.99% of Madonna fans!
One thing I was thinking was why Madonna never ran with doing a studio version of 'Behind The Bars' (from her not-so-secret-project)?
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I mean it makes sense to collect all the RH demos if you have a record of keeping all demos of her discography. If not, then I really don't understand why so many people here are so eager to look for each demo, even versions that are rough and unfinished. I'm not judging anyone of you since I own a bunch of these demos too, but I just don't see why you would still want to get more of them even after the final album has leaked. It's a bizarre situation.
It's 'a feeling I can't explain'!
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The BIGGEST a fans I know...the ones that fly around the world over to see her opening night and buy and collect everythjng she releases are "collectors" and have every demo. You can see it however you want...this has been going on for decades...her biggest fans have been involved in listening in on leaks and demos and pre-fame songs etc...
God, yeah! Madonna fans are very passionate indeed. There is another level of excitement with demos, unreleased tracks, etc. I have never understood people who ONLY listen to what is on the radio and that is their life's journey with music. My brother is like that. Music is rich with infinite possibilities if one takes the time and energy to investigate. Madonna engenders a loyalty amongst her fans that I have barely seen elsewhere. I'm a big fan and collector of Goldfrapp, Roisin Murphy and heaps others, yet Madonna's fans are on another level.
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It's odd that she even recorded some of these songs - like the Pharrell tracks. Did she really think going in this direction was a good idea? I actually like some of these better than the final tracks on HC, but HC2 would not have been very forward-thinking of her. It's just interesting to see that she does these things and then scraps them (wisely).
Again, there is an obvious reason a lot of demos remain demos! 'Take A Day' is cute and fun in the way that Pharell presents his good humour. As a 'Rebel Heart' inclusion, it would be so off the mark. This track would have been better off sent back in time to Kylie's 'Light Years' era.
Madonna had her moment(s) with Pharell on HC (perhaps a bit too ahead of the curve - especially and ironically on an album that was behind the eightball with lifeless Timbaland recordings). I think the RH tracklisting is very strong, as was a lot of the demo output. I am grateful that Madonna poured her heart and energies into this album. MDNA was pretty much recorded to support a tour. This time the tour will be supporting an amazing album.
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As I said earlier, a lot if the big wigs are not particularly young (just juvenile).
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Yes actually, we do. We want it ALL. If it's out there, we want it. We will always respect love and support the woman but I love hearing all her songs from demo form to finished form.
I've invested 32 years of my life into Madonna's career. These demos are the icing on a very delicious cake, indeed! I'm with you on wanting to hear the journey from demo to finished product!
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Madonna is still a force.
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No 'crying in a limousine!'
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We ALL get older! Fact of life. Talent has no age barrier.
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I thought too many cooks would spoil the broth, but not so.
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I've also heard a stream of Iconic labelled 'Iconic (Demo) NEW)' which sounds slightly different to the others, but I can't be sure. I have Demo Fatigue*
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Out of 25 tracks only Autotune baby is a mediocre song(Still better than some mdna tracks). And they choose this over Queen?
Yeah, I can listen to EVERY other track over and over. I edited out AB from the playlist.
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It's confusing since I have found the Russian sites have the demos listed differently than the US ones. Messiah 3 in Russia is Demo 5 here....I think
It is confusing! I've given up on the slight variations unless there is a reported major difference (like Hold Tight demo 5) or a total new track. [ so, in answer to your p.m., no I don't have those other two demos].
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If people could decide whether to include Queen or Auto-Tune Baby, Queen would win hands down. It's the superior track of the two. By far. To be quite frankly, Auto-Tune Baby is not immediately accessible. It's one of those songs, like Oh Dear Daddy or The Birthday Song. I think "childish" is the first word that comes to mind.
I agree with you. AB would actually be better without the baby or autotune!!
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I can't find 'Score' anywhere! I keep ending up at the score for W/E!! Lol
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Madonna's tour musical direct will probably co-opt this!
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Aren't you guys tired of seeking all these demos? demo1, demo2, demo3... I don't understand the obsession here, a bit too crazy for my taste.
Yeah. They need to coin a term for Demo Overload! 'Demoload'? 'Sorry, I can't come to Miley Cyrus' function for her new MAC lipstick...I've got Madonna Demoload!'
Some demos that transition from, say #3 to #4, sound like the studio engineer farted in the background!
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Not a biography, but a great read! I've had this for years!
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Is the Michael Diamond instrumental from that promo as well? It's nice too.
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Absolutely, Paul.
I feel very fortunate (and guilty) to have heard all these demos pre album release. The other way around is usually a good way to rewind and hear the evolution of tracks.
Madonna is very fortunate that her demos are of such high quality that some of us are leaning towards them as preferred versions. It's all a bonus!
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Another song that I wish had made its way to Madonna (instead of All Saints) was the William Orbit-produced "Pure Shores." It was very liquid-y and the sound was her signature sound at that moment. Too bad she didn't get the chance to help write and record it.
All the Orbit tracks done on that All Saints album would have suited Madonna. The killer bit at the end of 'Black Coffee' is crying out to be Madonna-fied! They should have been shopped to Madonna....Shaznay would still be rolling in the royalties!
I do love Lana Del Rey and thought 'Video Games' would have suited Madonna in one of her more contemplative moments.
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What's hilarious is the actual age of half the 'talent' at BBC Radio 1. Annie Mac is 36! She could be her target audience's mother (had she had a child to her Chav boyfriend in high school!
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But Rebel Heart was already tweaked before anything was stolen though.
I was under the impression some fixes were after the leak, so my bad!
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'Take a Day' is sweet. I would have had this over 'Auto-tuneless Baby', easy.
'Heaven' is over-emoted, but the bubbling synth is nice.
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I guess the quantity and quality of her Rebel Heart recording sessions doesn't mean she is short on tracks of her own!