HavenHigh
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Illuminati, Holy Water, Inisde Out and Wash All Over Me.
S.E.X. could also be also his work, cause all the other Mike Dean songs on RH were co-produced by Kanye West, which contradicts what she said. So let's see.
This is still unconfirmed, one review mentioned Kanye & Mike Dean for Inside Out but it's been widely discussed Kanye reworked S.E.X. instead of Inside Out.
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Yes. She rearranged the tracklisting and replaced B-Day Song with Love Spent. Some say it was in response to MIA giving the middle finger. If that's true, thank god for that middle finger! lol
Doubtful, since MIA's vocals were the main part of the tour version of Give Me All Your Luvin'.
It's more like Love Spent tested really well at the listening party reviews...
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Thanks for that Msig! I guess most of them are correct, though Warner Chappell does include Douglas & Bogart for Inside Out as well. It is possible ASCAP will have several versions registered (they have that for Human Nature & B-day Song if I recall well), because it seems DJ Dahi & Blood Diamonds got credit for Iconic & Body Shop later on. But they did not get credit for Devil Pray while there were two guys I posted earlier who were mentioned for Iconic instead of DJ Dahi & Blood Diamonds...
Billboard, Kanye West & Ryan Tedder did not receive any co-writing credit, which is surprising because I think the only time a producer did not get a writer credit was Nellee Hooper in 1994 and William Orbit in 1998 and supposedly this was the reason why the latter replaced the former for Ray Of Light since he agreed to that!
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Billboard review (3.5 out of 5 stars):
http://www.billboard.com/articles/review/6487805/album-review-madonna-rebel-heart
In December -- as Madonna rushed out six songs from Rebel Heart after some truly ugly cyber-bullying -- she told Billboard she had recorded so much material that she had considered doing a double album. And indeed, there are at least two albums struggling to come into being amid these 19 tracks.
Oppositions are the animating tension of Rebel Heart: Biting breakup songs like "Heartbreak City" rub up against some of the most absurdly lubricious sex songs of her absurdly lubricious career, like the Kanye West-co-produced "Holy Water," where she compares her bodily fluids to the song's title, then proclaims, "Yeezus loves my pussy best." Declarations of invincibility like "Unapologetic Bitch" are undone by laments over the price of fame and the way that even hearts of steel can break. Her decades-long love affair with house continues alongside her decades-long love affair with singer-songwriter confessions. Religious devotion and earthly love are cross-wired in the Avicii-helmed power ballad "Messiah." And songs with spare, inventive beats battle for dominance against expertly realized maximalist pop.
There's one other tension of note: Her determination to outgrow the past and shed her skin (as she puts it on the title track) tangles with her own back catalog. Three different songs refer to old hits, with "Veni Vidi Vici" stringing together titles like a bad Oscar medley: "I opened up my heart, I learned the power of goodbye/I saw a ray of light, music saved my life." If anyone is entitled to honor herself with her own drag show, it's her. Still, these backward glances are odd, and perhaps tip the hand that Madonna albums are now launching pads for Madonna tours, where the old songs can come out and play (indeed, on March 2, she announced a 35-city global run).
Or maybe not. Madonna has never gotten the credit she deserves as a musician, or as an album artist. Her essential interests are unchanging -- dancefloor ecstasy, European balladry, 1960s pop classicism -- but her expression of them finds new articulations. Rebel Heart has 14 producers working in seven different teams and still it sounds exactly like a Madonna album. That includes oddball standouts like "Body Shop," courtesy of beatmakers DJ Dahi (Drake, Kendrick Lamar) and Blood Diamonds (Grimes), which is propelled by a spare, sitar-like guitar figure.
One of the strangest things about Rebel Heart is how subtle it seems by current standards. These songs unfold slowly, building through foreplay-like intros before hooks are displayed over a shifting series of textures, as if the tracks were being remixed while you're listening to them. In a short-attention-span world of hits that relentlessly spotlight mini-hook after mini-hook for club DJs to drop in a few bars at a time, they seem positively luxurious and downright intellectual.
There are times you hope for a little more dumb fun -- enter Diplo, who turns up on five tracks with his air horn and Caribbean beats and would be welcome on more -- and there's at least one moody ballad too many. But then an aqueous bassline bubbles up and a surge of trance-y pulses sweeps you along to Madonnaland, where introspection and abandon engage in erotic acts of self-actualization. After 32 years, it's still a great place to be. -
AllMusic only lists songwriters, i.e. no Kanye for Illuminati or DJ Dahi & Blood Diamonds for Devil Pray. Same for Ascap & Warner Chappell...
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Any major reviews left? I guess only All Music Guide...
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So we might never know who's responsible for the title track?
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I agree some reviews are pathetic, but to blame little monsters is a bit dramatic. NME considered BTW the most overrated album of 2011 and Artpop has a metascore lower than MDNA. So its not like all of a sudden music critics are Gaga fans that hate Madonna. This is just the same old criticism she always received.
NME gave Born This Way 8/10 despite more than one Madonna comparison (see Scheisse to Erotica):
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So no lyrics/credits in the booklet?
MTribe claimed that last week... Waiting for the confirmation with scans...
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November is Europe too, remember the German interview when the reporter mentioned that.
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That would be my prediction as well, it's unlikely she would do the 3rd leg without any break this time.
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Super Deluxe isn't suppose to come a week or 2 after the albums released.
That's the vinyl. Several ads wote 3/9 for all three CD versions.
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Tour will kick off on August 29th, 2015 per MadonnaTribe.
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4. Anthony Shimkin
He never got a co-producer credit for any Madonna song though.
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I mean do we think with the bullfighting theme we will finally get Take a Bow? Could be a good ballad moment for this tour!
Not when she has the biggest amount of new ballads in 17 years...
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To me Stephen Bray & Patrick Leonard are more like fantastic songwriters & musicians and not producers in the post-1989 Madonna sense of the word when she started looking for new and distinctive sounds and changed it up for practically each album since then.
Best:
Andre Betts
Babyface
Mirwais Ahmadzai
Stuart Price
The Neptunes
Worst:
David Foster
Marius DeVries
Paul Oakenfold
Benny Benassi / Alle Benassi
Martin Solveig
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Aaaand Slant trashes S.E.X. too and comments on the album being too long, looks like if you read one review you read them all.
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Rolling Stone is still using the so called old reviews on the page dedicated to Madonna so I don't believe there have been any actual re-evaluation. Like A Prayer has 2 reviews but it's not like the first, with 3.5 stars was "erased".
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there's simply too much on Rebel Heart, and reviewers favor albums that are more coherent.
as a fan, i love having every song she's ever recorded on one album, but let's be honest, the album is a commitment to go through. I felt the same about Ray of Light and MDNA too. Music, AL, Confessions, HC... all pretty punchy records that you could breeze through a couple of times in a day without thinking twice. she really should've edited it down, and saved the other tracks for bonus EPs to singles. that could've been a really interesting campaign and kept the album alive for the next year.
Wondering if she's ever going to explain why she recorded so many tracks this time, never been her style... She can perform half of the album on tour at best, not to mention all the rejected songs that didn't make it!
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It received 4 stars when released, but today the score is 4.5/5
But where is the 4.5/5 review posted? The link I posted still shows 4...
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Ray of Light has 4.5 stars, though
Both Ray Of Light & Music got 4 stars from Rolling Stone.
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/ray-of-light-19980402
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/music-20001012
The Ray Of Light review is a bit critical though, that the album is too slow compared to her 1980s stuff etc...
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Critics really hate S.E.X., can't recall a Madonna song that was so universally trashed by them...
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And is it true that the physical CD album notes also won't include any credits info for the tracks?
This is a bit mad!!
Well MTribe does not post fake stuff so it seems it is true indeed... Is it because not even Madonna can keep up with all the co-writers and co-producers?
Msig, where does the info about Kanye doing Inside Out come from? I assumed Billboard produced Inside Out since it has the same set of writers as Ghosttown...
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Best scenario is that she tours 3-4 months this year, then takes a break and in a year from now she does the second leg which would be South America/Australasia.
Illuminati
in ARCHIVE - The REBEL HEART Forum
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I find this one amazing now, can't wait for what role she gives it on the tour!!!