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  1. Finally the official credits! :D

    Looks like Avicii did get a credit for all the songs he was involved with and also more people from his entourage. Nobody reworked Rebel Heart, that was correct all along...

    Auto-Tune Baby being a Kanye track is a real surprise and also no co-producer for Hold Tight. Ryan Tedder was mentioned in several reviews and it sounds like Baby Don't Lie so maybe he simply did not want to be credited? We'll never know...

    There are several unknown people in writer credits that are not easy to figure out, i.e. Brown in the Kanye tracks and some people in HeartBreakCity or Best Night for example.

    4 co-writers is the least amount here (Ghosttown, Joan of Arc, Beautiful Scars & Graffiti Heart) and she broke the record of Gang Bang with HeartBreakCity & Wash All Over Me, both 9 co-writers. Easily the most people ever involved on a Madonna record! :dramatic:

  2. i think she'll do it like in RIT

    she'll open the show with an oldie...

    even the closer may be another oldie

    Hope not, does not work for a tour named after her current album!

    I always hated how RIT repeated the last two songs of DWT in different order, one of her most uninspired decisions.

  3. I did read online somewhere (sorry I can't remember where) where someone said there would be more stripped down performances on this tour and it would be more like a regular concert and not as theatrical as the last two tours but more like the RIT. They said it would be a combination of RIT and DWT. Not sure what that means as those tours are very different.

    I think her post-DWT tours are not as theatrical as BAT or DWT apart from a few performances like Live To Tell or Gang Bang, in fact she actually uses performance templates these days that are not ultra-theatrical (like Spanish, cabaret or folk stuff), I think her next tour will be the same. She did say the actual stripped down type of concert is not coming soon.

  4. I figured that when they first posted that picture.

    I guess it was more of an old song rewrite than going back to Rick Nowels. He was already a strange choice for her at the time, since he co-wrote stuff like Belinda Carlisle's Heaven Is A Place On Earth & Celine Dion's Falling Into You previously, it just didn't fit with her going to the "underground European producer" route...

  5. Yeah, you know how we always mock the rayoflighters? I feel like there is another group of people that have been stuck on Confessions since... well, Confessions!

    I love the album. It's great, amazing production, great lyrics, some really classic and iconic moments in there. But you fuckers gotta let it go. It's not the fucking second coming.

    I'm SO sick of hearing comments like "ugh Confessions was perfection, she should keep doing albums like that", or worse, after some fugly fags gasped with what they call the MASSACRE that was Hard Candy, some even said "she should've retired/she lost it after confessions"... I mean, what the fuck, gays? If you wanna keep on listening to the same electrodreamypopshit that came after Confessions, just go and buy some Kylie records. Ugh.

    :rotfl:

    Yeah I agree, a great album at the time but so glad Madonna did not stick with that route. Especially since Stuart Price working with everyone after that and most of those efforts being less than stellar.

    COADF obsessed fans should check out these records that were mostly produced by Stuart Price and realize that it was a one off thing:

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  6. Initially I thought this one was nothing special but it truly is a grower and I really like it now.

    Of course it helps a lot that this one is not one of the urban midtempo or ballad tracks and stands out because of that, wished the album had more of these kind of songs...

  7. Gang Bang and Turn Up The Radio were changed immensely once Madonna got involved. Bad examples.

    I think she's always been all over the place as a songwriter. Sometimes taken pre-existing works and tweaked a tiny bit, sometimes starting from scratch. Nothing new, let's not pull a Vocalism and question the entire validity and integrity of the woman just becuz she sometimes dabbles in handing over the songwriting control to others. Britney Spears, Janet, Rihanna she is not.

    But the lyrics of those songs were already there, Gang Bang sounds different because of The Demolition Crew who made different music.

    Nobody said she's like those ladies but on the last two albums the songwriter credits grew exponentially compared to the eras before that, in the past she generally avoided collaborators like that (except Babyface & Rick Nowels), you cannot deny there is a difference and these days she does work with people who are not simply DJs or beatmakers.

    Even back in the day she put as cowriter what in fact was a mere producer

    Not true, half of ROL lacks Orbit as a co-writer and supposedly that was the reason why Nellee Hooper refused to be associated with the project.

  8. ^She probably doesn't even remember most of those songs now... :(

    Setting aside the fact that she has way too many new songs now to pull out anything from obscurity, you just have to look at her track record to see that she usually ignores the eras between 1990 and 1998. I chalk that up to her not scoring hits left to right outside US/Canada/Japan at that time, none of the songs between TIC and ROL were HUGE worldwide smashes, closest thing to that is Don't Cry For Me Argentina! That said she's done Human Nature on 3 out of 5 tours.

    Not to mention that she usually does the first and second singles of an album post-True Blue since those were the most popular. After The Girlie Show she did ONE Erotica song properly on tour, Deeper And Deeper on RIT, then Erotica only used the chorus of the album version on CT (the rest of the song distances itself from the released version), which part was repeated in Candy Shop 2012, plus a bit of Rain was used as an interlude in 2008 and that's it. Deeper And Deeper was omitted from Celebration so it's a safe bet at the moment that Erotica album will be ignored again...

  9. Seems quite weird that she has been upset about the leaks and her work being stolen but she is ok basically taking someone else's art and making minor amendments then taking main credit for it.

    I don't get how these things are related in any way, it's not like she claims she has written those songs, she just adds her name but the rest of the people still get the royalties. It's been like that for 20 years now (Bedtime Story is the last non-cover Madonna track without her getting writer credit), those writers are more than happy to give Madonna their compositions since it gives them a definite stream of royalties.

    However, it is true that in recent years she has been doing this more often but I blame the fans for it, during the AL & COADF eras many of them complained that she cannot write a lyric to save her life anymore, she should use outside songwriters. Which she does now, most of the last 2 albums are like that, i.e. Gang Bang, Turn Up The Radio and who knows how many MoZella/S1/Gad songs were already existing before Madonna took them and added some lines.

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