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    STREAMING/SALES strategy and discussion

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    Just now, Andra said:

    I have downloaded spotify, its free no trial. Or do i need to have premium to stream?? Idk how this works

    You don't need premium to stream. The difference is that with free you have advertisements  - interrupting the music - every 30 Minutes (well, at least it was like that trhee years ago when I started using premium).

    new album thread (CLOSED)

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    15 hours ago, FreeMySoul said:

    I think we should do a madonnanation prayer circle all hands in let the queen slay as we bow at her feet to worship her new music amen 

    Oh my God, I am screaming here after reading that🤣 I love it!

    This era is shaping to be much more than I could ever have expected. I am beyond surprised, am mesmerized, amazed...OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    New album thread - continued here. WE NEED TO WAKE UP to MAGIC.

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    50 minutes ago, Bat-Fan said:

    She looks perfect. That wig really is amazing. The dark hair really makes her eyes look big and cheek bones prominent. She looks both sexy and dignified. I would love it if she colors her hair like this. 

    I agree with you. Before seeing her with these dark wigs I wasn't sure if the dark hair would suit her, as some women look older with dark hair. In Madonna's case it makes her look very fresh. Now I really see how beautiful she looks with dark hair.

    New album thread - continued here. WE NEED TO WAKE UP to MAGIC.

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    1 hour ago, Herfaceremains said:

    Here’s an interpretation of the gay male perception of Madonna for anyone with the patience to read:

     Gay men have always had a generationally-appointed diva, and each new generation rejects the previous one’s because gay culture has traditionally been defined by late-onset individuation due to the experience of societal intolerance. The narcissistic pursuit of belonging to the Zeitgeist is ironically the antithesis of individuation and Madonna’s entire philosophy, but Madonna always offered the opportunity to conform and rebel in equal measure, and sometimes concurrently. This gave us options. She also shared a strong sense of queer politics and aesthetics due to the culture she gravitated toward and was shaped by.  

    Gay people used to look to the cultural past for glimmers of familiarity, acceptance and acknowledgement coded into the works of those who didn’t fit in and who either overcame the odds (individuated triumph) or were consumed by self-destructive tragedy (toxic shame). The mainstreaming of gay identity politics has essentially erased the need for an isolated community of support, and now belonging to the gay collective is more like a country club membership system, hierarchy and discrimination included.  In addition to this shifting dynamic less and less people under the age of 30 seem able to retain any information that isn’t condensed into an easily transferable sound bite to convey their “identity”, and so the past has become too arduous and dense to experience. It requires investment to attain multi-layered context; the historical, the cultural, and the individual. 

    Madonna was extraordinary in that she captured two distinct generations of youth culture in the mainstream, something that no other “gay diva” ever did, and probably never will again. Her rise coincided with a massive socio-cultural and economic shift in America, which she seemed to encapsulate perfectly, whether perceived with irony or taken literally. Her anthemic presence was a counterbalance to the dirge of AIDS. Some gay men who were either her peers or older hated her publicly, but followed her every move privately. Often those who hated her felt threatened by her because she challenged them to take ownership of themselves. Essentially Madonna rubbed people’s noses in their own shit, gay or straight, black or white. She wasn’t seeking the approval of anyone, and that irked a lot of people. When Madonna pursued a life that wasn’t relatable to some gay men by focusing on her family, seeking to address the problem of AIDS across Africa rather than America or Europe, and shifting her interest away from club culture, she became a pariah to them. A specific gay demographic that didn’t wish to conform to heteronormative values found itself faced with the dilemma of finding purpose beyond the clubs, the gym and grindr. Ironically, Madonna’s path is quite parallel, only she found something else, and this made her repellent to them, awakening their deepest insecurities.

     For all the sociological exploration herein, one thing is certain. Madonna is exceptional, and will eventually be re-embraced as supreme in her support of the community and mainstream representational pioneering of queer and underground culture.

    What happened a decade ago is, in my humble opinion, a total fabrication. Corporate culture essentially annointed the next Madonna because no one seemed to ever manage to eclipse her, which was extremely problematic for an industry that is all about youth...She wasn’t playing by the rules by outshining everyone ALL the time! Even when she didn’t sell, she was still top dog. I’m not sure why they picked Gaga to be elevated, but there must have been a checklist, and she matched the criteria required. The consistent erasure of the dialog about her mimicry as mediocrity, the lack of substance in her work and message, and her inability to connect with both mainstream and fringe cultures simultaneously (perhaps as a result of LGBTQ culture having fully integrated into the mainstream) make the Industry-wide support of her beyond questionable, but they have succeeded in creating a myth thanks to the generally uninquiring mind syndrome that plagues this rather peculiar generation. They have nothing to fight against as they are all defined by victimhood as the celebratory catalyst, whereas Madonna was about empowerment and transcendence. Some day soon intellect and curiosity will be traits to aspire to once again, and Madonna’s legacy will obliterate the falsehoods. That she seems intent on reminding the gays of her illustrious journey with the launch of her next era is definitely indicative of that resurgence. 

    Thanks for the text. I enjoyed reading it and think the argumentation is very solid

    M14. Music video being shot.

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    52 minutes ago, Confessit said:

    Is this the first time Madonna has worked professionally with a drag queen ? 

    I can’t recall any Madonna video with a drag queen in it ?? Surly not .....??

    Actually in the videos Deeper and Deeper and Secret there are drag Queens but they have a rather simple appearance. I am completely in love with the idea of having drag Queens in her new video.

    M14. Music video being shot.

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    21 minutes ago, cocolattee said:

    I guess we will understand from her next posts if that's her real hair and she cut it, or if it's another wig
    I really hope she got a haircut cos I think she looks better with shorter hair 

    I agree with you. If I had to guess I would say it is a wig. But I would love to get surprised 🙂

    M14: coming 'soon'

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    18 minutes ago, Voguerista said:

    If a person thought she was being serious, I can understand how you/they could take it wrong(especially someone from another country or a new fan). Anyway it's all good. Let's  thank this musician for her fun and teaser on a little of what's coming. Just think she could keep it all hidden but thank goodness she gave us a little something, it keeps the buzz going and in such a crazy pressure filled time for many people. 

    Thank you!

    M14: coming 'soon'

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    Just now, runa said:

    you're kidding, right ?

    It was clearly made for fun, a one take, nothing serious... how can you judge on a 30 sec snippets ?

    Sorry, but independet of the quality of the video and her intension I'm able to listen if a voice needs coaching or not. I will keep my opinion

    M14: coming 'soon'

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    1 minute ago, Simo9jo said:

    Are people serious? This is NOT a new song or from the new album...which has no been released and no one has heard. she is just playing around on her guitar. Why don't you wait to hear the actual music before being ridiculous. 

    Dude, there is no reason for you to react like that. I just made an observation on her voice and I think it is totally valid. I was not writing about the album or a song album. You stop beeing ridiculous

    M14: coming 'soon'

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    The only thing that bothers me on this snippet  a little bit is her voice. I can clearly hear that she had no vocal coaching the past months. Yesterday I was listening to I'm Breathless and I was really amazed because the melodies are so complicated to sing and she did it amazingly well. I wish she had cared a little bit for her voice in this new era....

    Madonna - new album coming soon. Queen teases on Insta

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    11 minutes ago, Confessit said:

    I am incredibly impressed Madonna’s team have kept everything so top secret.

    It looks like we could literally get a music video, press release and album cover all at once without a hint of any preview.

    Fantatsic!

    I don't want to hold any expectations in order to avoid disappointment, but I have to say that the way everything has been kept in secret is a very good sign. I am really hoping for a incredible era.

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