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    Trump / US politics thread 🚽

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    From Detroit Free Press

    The numbers are in: Trump wins Michigan by 10,704

    Kathleen Gray , Detroit Free Press Lansing Bureau 2:42 p.m. EST November 24, 2016

    In the closest race for president in Michigan's history, Republican Donald Trump is hanging on to a 10,704 vote win over Democrat Hillary Clinton.

    The Michigan Secretary of State posted results Wednesday that were submitted by the state's 83 county clerks on Tuesday after the votes were reviewed and certified by each county.

    Before that compiled count, Trump held a 13,107 lead over Clinton. But after each county certified its results, the lead shrunk to 10,704, with the biggest chunk coming from Wayne County, which showed that Clinton had gotten 565 more votes than originally tallied by the county. 

    The state's Board of Canvassers will officially certify the results on Nov. 28. The electoral college in all the states, including Michigan's 16 electors, will cast their votes on Dec. 19.

    "Many people have asked about Michigan’s process for counting ballots and certifying election results. Please be aware that all 1,521 Michigan cities and townships completed ballot counting and reported unofficial results by the morning of Wednesday, Nov. 9," according to a statement on the Secretary of State's website. "The county canvassing boards, as they do after every election, then began their work to review and certify the results from each precinct."

    Across the nation, Trump won 306 electoral votes -- including Michigan's 16 -- to 232 for Clinton. In the popular vote, Clinton holds a lead (/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/21/election-results-electoral-popular-votes-trump-clinton/94214826/) of more than 2 million votes.

    Trump is the first Republican presidential candidate since 1988 to win Michigan.

    The vote totals that will be submitted to the state Canvassers Board on Nov. 28 are:

         ·      Donald J. Trump, Republican: 2,279,543 

    ·      Hillary Clinton, Democratic: 2,268,839

    ·      Gary Johnson, Libertarian: 172,136

    ·      Jill Stein, Green: 51,463

    ·      Darrell L. Castle, U.S. Taxpayers: 16,139

    ·      Evan McMullin, write-in: 8,177

    ·      Emidio Mimi Soltysik, Natural Law: 2,209

    ·      Michael Maturen, write-in: 517

    ·      Tom Hoefling, write-in: 95

    ·      Laurence Kotlikoff, write-in: 87

    ·      Ben Hartnell, write-in: 39

    ·      Monica Moorehead, write-in: 30

    ·     Cherunda Fox, write-in: 10

    Trump / US politics thread 🚽

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    1 minute ago, Love Spent said:

    @tumbleweedt

    Yes, I couldn't stress that enough.

    Reddit is burning to the ground as we speak. Spez (Steve Huffman,Reddit CEO) has really fucked himself with this latest stunt. The will lose SO MUCH revenue if the destroy the most active and fastest growing subreddit. Yeah, it's a private company with their own TOS....blah blah..spare me. If Huffman or Reddit are sued, they cannot claim Section 230 immunity from a lawsuit. In legal terms, Huffman has exposed Reddit to liability.

    Oh well, alternatives have already been activated. :angel: These folks never learn.

    hmm, please don't take this the wrong way, I appreciate the shoutout, but I'm not big on this pizza stuff. Not buying it.

    Trump / US politics thread 🚽

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    Trump names Haley, a foreign policy novice, as envoy to U.N.

     

    By Roberta Rampton and Doina Chiacu

    WEST PALM BEACH, Fla./WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Donald Trump on Wednesday named South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley, a former critic who has little foreign policy experience, to be the next U.S. ambassador to the United Nations at a time of uncertainty over America's international role under his presidency.

    Haley, one of two women chosen for a job in Trump's Cabinet, is "a proven dealmaker, and we look to be making plenty of deals. She will be a great leader representing us on the world stage," the Republican president-elect said in a statement.

    The 44-year-old daughter of Indian immigrants, Haley represents what some Republicans hope could be the new face of their party: a younger, more diverse generation of leaders.

    Haley took Trump strongly to task during the presidential campaign over his harsh rhetoric about illegal immigration and for not speaking forcefully enough against white supremacists.

    Trump has chosen mostly male conservatives so far for senior positions as he shapes his administration following his victory over Democrat Hillary Clinton in the Nov. 8 election. Trump takes over from President Barack Obama on Jan. 20.

    The choice of Haley may be aimed at countering criticism of Trump's divisive comments about immigrants and minorities, as well as accusations of sexism during his election campaign.

    Haley led a successful effort last year to remove the Confederate battle flag from the grounds of the South Carolina state capitol after the killing of nine black churchgoers in Charleston. The flag was carried by pro-slavery Confederate forces during the U.S. Civil War and is viewed by many as a racist emblem.

    Haley said she had accepted Trump's offer and would remain governor pending her confirmation to the Cabinet-level post by the U.S. Senate.

    "When the president believes you have a major contribution to make to the welfare of our nation, and to our nation's standing in the world, that is a calling that is important to heed," she said in a statement.

    Haley's job may include reassuring allies worried about some of Trump's campaign rhetoric, including his pledge to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexican border to curb illegal immigration, his promise to review trade agreements and his suggestion that he would push NATO partners to pay more for their own defense.

    Trump wants a better relationship with Russia, a permanent member of the U.N. Security Council. He has antagonized China, another major power at the United Nations, with his rhetoric on trade and territorial disputes in the South China Sea.

     

    AMERICA'S ROLE

    Trump, a New York real estate magnate who has never held public office, gave few clues about his world view during an extensive interview with The New York Times on Tuesday.

    Asked what he sees as America's role in the world, Trump answered: "That's such a big question." When pressed more, he described the Iraq war as a mistake, urged better relations with Russia and called for an end to "that craziness that’s going on in Syria."

    One of the five permanent veto-powers on the 15-member Security Council, the United States is also the largest funder of the United Nations, paying more than a quarter of the $8 billion peacekeeping budget and 22 percent of the regular budget.

    Trump picked conservatives to lead his national security and law enforcement teams last week, suggesting he plans to make good on his campaign promises to take a hard line on Islamist militancy and curbing illegal immigration

    But a relative moderate, former Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, is under active consideration to head the State Department, along with other candidates.

    Haley would succeed Obama's U.N. envoy, Samantha Power, a foreign policy expert before she took the job. In contrast, Haley, a state lawmaker before becoming governor, has little experience in international relations.

    Trump transition team spokesman Jason Miller played up Haley's foreign trade experience as a governor.

    “She’s done a fantastic job with the state of South Carolina, in helping to improve the economy. That included a number of overseas trade and business recruitment missions,” he said.

     

    SHARP WORDS FOR TRUMP

    Haley was a robust critic of Trump during the early stages of the Republican presidential primary race, including condemning him for not disavowing the support of white supremacist group Ku Klux Klan and one of its former leaders, David Duke.

     

    In a rebuttal to Obama's State of the Union address in January, Haley called for tolerance on immigration and civility in politics, in what some saw as a rebuke of Trump.

    "During anxious times, it can be tempting to follow the siren call of the angriest voices," she said. "We must resist that temptation."

    She supported Trump rivals Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz, both U.S. senators, in the Republican primary before saying last month she would vote for Trump despite reservations about his character.

    Haley also criticized Trump last winter for not releasing his tax returns, prompting him to hit back on Twitter, "The people of South Carolina are embarrassed of Nikki Haley!"

     

    EDUCATION CHOICE

    Trump on Wednesday also picked wealthy Republican donor and school choice advocate Betsy DeVos to lead the Education Department, saying she would "break the bureaucracy that is holding our children back."

    DeVos, a billionaire former chair of the Michigan Republican Party, has long pushed for a larger role for private education.

    As chair of the American Federation for Children advocacy group, she has advocated for vouchers that families can use to send their children to private schools and for the expansion of charter schools.

    The National Education Association, the country's largest union, condemned DeVos' nomination. "She has consistently pushed a corporate agenda to privatize, de-professionalize and impose cookie-cutter solutions to public education," said NEA President Lily Eskelsen Garcia.

    Trump, who was in Florida for the Thanksgiving break, was expected to announce later on Wednesday that he has chosen Ben Carson to lead the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.

    "After serious discussions with the Trump transition team, I feel that I can make a significant contribution particularly to making our inner cities great for everyone," Carson, a former Republican presidential candidate, wrote on Facebook.

     

    (Additional reporting by Michele Nichols in New York, Susan Heavey in Washington; Writing by Doina Chiacu and Alistair Bell; Editing by Frances Kerry)

     

    Trump / US politics thread 🚽

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    13 minutes ago, Pud Whacker said:

    I'm coming soon!!! Waiting for the 75% off sale!!!

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    @Hector 

    and I tweeted Cher but she hasn't replied. She's busy luxuriating in her show palace by the sea!! 

    I'll ask Madonna when she posts next on Instagram. :headbang:

    Perhaps Political Guiding Light Cher is preparing for more private gigs for her friend Suleyman Kerimov, the Russian billionaire oligarch and Putin confidante - hello Panama Papers - representing the Republic of Dagestan in the Russian parliament. 

    Trump / US politics thread 🚽

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    2 hours ago, Pud Whacker said:

    cher still marching in the streets? 

    Maybe Cher is singing her song If I Could Turn Back Time......perhaps sharing fond memories of cashing fat paychecks for performing in Apartheid South Africa's Suncity resort, "courageously defying" the cultural boycott imposed by the United Nations at the time. Such a humanitarian!

     :cher:     :think:

    Trump / US politics thread 🚽

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    2 hours ago, Raider of the lost Ark said:

    I found this on boyculture and it basically says everything I tried to say but may have failed to put into words.

     

    About the video: I find it to be more of the same. Moral superiority. Condescension. Guilt by association. Not impressed. Disclosure: I stopped watching after the KKK remarks. So, I may have missed something more substantial after that.

    Trump / US politics thread 🚽

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    Trump's candidate for national security adviser, Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn seems to be a man with deeply incoherent ideas. I watched several interviews with him on why he opposed the Iran deal. It was not so much his opposition in itself, but the socalled arguments he presented to support his position and the lack of any credible alternative to the Iran deal that made me question the soundness of this man's strategic analysis.

    If anyone here has an opinion or some more information on Michael Flynn that they wish to share, please do so!

    Trump / US politics thread 🚽

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    5 hours ago, Sloane said:

    You're a goddamn liar. I've explained on numerous occasions what bothered me about him. There's really no point in posting anymore because people just hear their own reality. I'm a troll now???? There are people who post the same essays day after day, saying the exact same (pointless) thing. I rarely post because I respect there is a strong gay community here and absolutely understand why it's not pro-Trump (thankfully it's more than just because Madonna isnt). The only reason I chose to come out pro-Trump here was to talk with others and find out why not to vote for him. Maybe if there wasn't white bashing blatantly going on the cries of HE'S RACIST would've meant more. Anyway, I genuinely like everybody here, well except one lol, but this has become a complete waste of my time. I'm leaving the forum for awhile, see you in the lurker zone.

    Well said (although I find your labeling of Raider a bit strong worded). Please stay.

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