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  1. First of all: label choice ??? I thought Interscope only made the distribution and Madonna's team did the rest.

    Second of all: I wonder what Avicii really said .

    Third of all :Rebel Heart demo is great but Madonna didnt like it. I love the album version too but I wonder what really happened. Some say it was a punishment for the leaks (as if!!) but I guess it was a punishment against Avicii himself

    I think Avicii got really sick in the middle of the process. Why would she punish him?

  2. I like the album versions of Rebel Heart and Wash All Over Me more than the demos. I really don't like Avicii's sound. I like what Kayne did on the album, except for Inside Out. He fucked that one up, if it was him. We don't have official credits, so we don't know who to blame.

    From mad-eyes.net:

    Living For Love - Diplo

    Devil Pray - DJ Dahi & Blood Diamonds

    Ghosttown - Billboard

    Unapologetic Bitch - Diplo

    Illuminati - Kanye West

    Bitch I'm Madonna - Diplo

    Hold Tight - Ryan Tedder

    Joan of Arc - Toby Gad,

    Iconic - Toby Gad, DJ Dahi, Blood Diamonds

    HeartBreakCity - Avicii

    Body Shop - DJ Dahi & Blood Diamonds

    Holy Water - Kanye West

    Inside Out - Kanye West

    Wash All Over Me - Kanye West

    Best Night - Diplo

    Veni Vidi Vici - Diplo

    S.E.X. - Kanye West

    Messiah - Avicii

    Rebel Heart - Avicii

    Beautiful Scars - DJ Dahi & Blood Diamonds

    Queen - The-Dream

    Borrowed Time - DJ Dahi & Blood Diamonds

    Graffiti Heart - Toby Gad

    Auto-Tune Baby - Diplo

    Addicted - Avicii

    More detailed:

    LIVING FOR LOVE

    Written by Madonna, Thomas Wesley Pentz, Maureen McDonald, Toby Gad, Ariel Rechtshaid and Uzoechi Emenike

    Produced by Madonna and Diplo

    Piano by Alicia Keys

    DEVIL PRAY

    Written by Madonna, Tim Bergling, Carl Falk, Rami Yacoub and Savan Kotecha

    Produced by Madonna, DJ Dahi & Blood Diamonds

    GHOSTTOWN

    Written by Madonna, Sean Douglas, Evan Kidd Bogart and Jason Evigan

    Produced by Madonna and Billboard

    UNAPOLOGETIC BITCH

    Written by Madonna, Thomas Wesley Pentz, Ariel Rechtshaid, Maureen McDonald and Toby Gad

    Produced by Madonna and Diplo

    ILLUMINATI

    Written by Madonna, Toby Gad, Maureen McDonald, Larry Griffin Jr. and Mike Dean

    Produced by Madonna, Kanye West, Mike Dean and Charlie Heat

    BITCH IM MADONNA

    Written by Madonna, Thomas Wesley Pentz, Ariel Rechtshaid, Maureen McDonald and Toby Gad

    Produced by Madonna and Diplo

    Featuring Nicki Minaj

    HOLD TIGHT

    Written by Madonna, Thomas Wesley Pentz, Maureen McDonald, Toby Gad, Ariel Rechtshaid and Uzoechi Emenike

    Produced by Madonna and Ryan Tedder

    JOAN OF ARC

    Written by Madonna, Toby Gad, Maureen McDonald and Larry Griffin Jr.

    Produced by Madonna, Toby Gad, Josh Cumbee and AFSHeeN

    ICONIC

    Written by Madonna, Toby Gad, Maureen McDonald, Larry Griffin Jr., Chancelor Bennett, Dacoury Natche and Michael Tucker

    Produced by Madonna, Toby Gad, Josh Cumbee and AFSHeeN

    Co-produced by DJ Dahi & Blood Diamonds

    Featuring Chance The Rapper & Mike Tyson

    HEARTBREAKCITY

    Written by Madonna, Tim Bergling, Tobias Jimson, Arash Pournouri and Paloma Stoecker

    Produced by Madonna and Avicii

    BODY SHOP

    Written by Madonna, Toby Gad, Maureen McDonald, Larry Griffin Jr., Dacoury Natche and Michael Tucker

    Produced by Madonna, DJ Dahi and Blood Diamonds

    HOLY WATER

    Written by Madonna, Martin Kierszenbaum, Natalia Cappuccini and Mike Dean

    Produced by Madonna, Kanye West, Mike Dean and Charlie Heat

    INSIDE OUT

    Written by Madonna, Sean Douglas, Evan Kidd Bogart and Jason Evigan

    Produced by Madonna, Kanye West and Mike Dean

    WASH ALL OVER ME

    Written by Madonna, Tim Bergling, Mike Dean, Arash Pournouri and Magnus Lidehäll

    Produced by Madonna, Kanye West, Mike Dean and Charlie Heat

    BEST NIGHT

    Written by Madonna, Thomas Wesley Pentz, Ariel Rechtshaid, Maureen McDonald and Toby Gad

    Produced by Madonna, Diplo and Djemba Djemba

    VENI VIDI VICI

    Written by Madonna, Thomas Wesley Pentz, Ariel Rechtshaid, Maureen McDonald and Toby Gad

    Produced by Madonna, Diplo and Ariel Rechtshaid

    Featuring Nas

    S.E.X.

    Written by Madonna, Toby Gad, Maureen McDonald, Larry Griffin Jr. and Mike Dean

    Produced by Madonna, Kanye West, Mike Dean and Charlie Heat

    MESSIAH

    Written by Madonna, Tim Bergling, Arash Pournouri and Magnus Lidehäll

    Produced by Madonna and Avicii

    REBEL HEART

    Written by Madonna, Tim Bergling, Arash Pournouri and Magnus Lidehäll

    Produced by Madonna and Avicii

    BEAUTIFUL SCARS

    Written by Madonna, Rick Nowels, Dacoury Natche and Michael Tucker

    Produced by Madonna, DJ Dahi & Blood Diamonds

    QUEEN

    Written by Madonna, Terius Youngdell Nash and Mike Dean

    Produced by Madonna and The-Dream

    BORROWED TIME

    Written by Madonna, Tim Bergling, Carl Falk, Rami Yacoub, Savan Kotecha, Arash Pournouri, Dacoury Natche and Michael Tucker

    Produced by Madonna, DJ Dahi & Blood Diamonds

    GRAFFITI HEART

    Written by Madonna, Tobias Gad, Larry Darnell Griffin and Maureen Anne McDonald

    Produced by Madonna, Toby Gad, Josh Cumbee and AFSHeeN

    AUTOTUNE BABY

    Written by Madonna and Thomas Wesley Pentz

    Produced by Madonna and Diplo

    ADDICTED

    Written by Madonna, Tim Bergling, Carl Falk, Rami Yacoub and Savan Kotechas

    Produced by Madonna and Avicii

  3. I want Madonna's music to be heard by as many people as possible, because it deserves to be. EDM, pop,acoustic, power ballads - it doesn't matter to me, as long as it's great (which it invariably is). It's criminal that she still produces brilliant music but it's ignored because she's "old".

    I agree with you. But at the end for me at least it's the quality of music which she delivers in Rebel Heart. The fact that it's "ignored" is beyond her and us. As you also said, she's ignored and despised cause she's "old", not for the quality of her music. It's sad and unfair. She never has it easy. There are hordes of people waiting her every move to take it out of context and then drag her. This article is a very good example: Avicii just stated his opinion (whether we agree with him or not) in an interview which is most likely to be longer and this is just a small part of it, but of course he named Madonna and in a way that's very easy to take it and make it sound worse than it may be. Then voilà: another article bashing her. I hope that makes him realize how hard Madonna has it and how they would use anything and anybody to damage her.

    It would be easier these days to be a fan of Taylor Swift: instead of killing the cockroach she found in her kitchen she decides to throw it out of the window and let it live, now you have hundreds of articles claiming she's the savior of man-kind, she found the cure of cancer, she will stop global warming and she's a true feminist.

  4. But I thought we didn't want more EDM or featurings. And yeah, there are elements or even full songs with EDM in the charts, but we also didn't want Madonna to follow the trends.

    The leaks and the early release in December (which seemed a good idea at the time) killed any chance for the singles to chart. The radio ban on her did the rest. Fortunately she promoted the album and that helped a lot. If she did the same kind of promo she did for MDNA it would have been TRAGIC.

    Also, all the bad press and hatred this era didn't help at all. And this article many of you agree with just adds to it.

  5. Not in Australia - he's still having multiple hits here (two Top 10 singles here in the past seven months, and his latest single has just debuted in the Top 20). Ironically, Diplo has also had a #1 single, another Top 5 and a third enter the charts this week. Madonna hasn't charted a single here since "Girl Gone Wild" spent a week in the 90s over three years ago :(

    Madonna doesn't have the privilege to sound on the radio these days whether she releases pure gold or pure shit. If she released Rebel Heart demo version as a single it would flop like the rest of the singles or any other song from the album or any album released by her.

  6. I agree with you no matter how unpopular it may be on here. You notice he said the original version was more "me". But was it Madonna? It's a Madonna record not an Avicii record. I find his stuff very predictable. I was not that excited about her working with him since he has a very predictable sound. People say they didn't want another EDM record, but that's what it would be with his production. I like that it has different textures on it. There are a lot of older more traditional songwriting people who like Rebel Heart and Wash All Over Me the way they turned out to be and would hate the typical Avicii sound.

    I just feel this is another way Madonna is not given the respect other artists are. Most of the time producers don't criticize artists even if they disagree or change the version on the album because after all it's their album. But somehow everyone is very quick to criticize Madonna.

    Wash All Over Me album version is so epic and dramatic... I love it. I also enjoy Avicii's dance version, but the new one is million times better. It's not just a nice dance song, it's a highlight from an album that's already a highlight.

  7. Yes, she did say that. Most people don't view it that way when it comes to standard vs. deluxe issues. RH is the title track and it was relegated to a filler on the extended album basically hoping that no one will notice.

    Well, she's the one who made the album so I will stick to what she considers it's the original album. I don't think songs like Best Night, VVV, S.E.X. or Messiah are songs relegated to filler on the extended album hoping that nobody will notice. Rebel Heart is the perfect closing track from the great album that Rebel Heart is. I would prefer Queen as a closing track for the Super Deluxe as it was intended but oh well, she didn't do it, but i'm not complaining, at least I'm happy I got that song cause it leaked and i can place it at the end of the Super Deluxe in my iPod.

  8. ^^Django

    I'm inclined to see that logic. However, I believe the Avicii version showed us that the song could have a spark of life in it. It did not have to sound dated, nor did it have to sound like the final version either. If we didn't have the demos to compare it to, would we not simply think that it was an American Life reject? It's not on the standard version of the album for a reason.

    I think Madonna stated that the original album is the Deluxe and the standard was the label's choice or something like that.

    And I honestly don't think people would complain at all if they didn't know how the avicii demo was.

  9. I agree it is dated - and it would be embarrassing for Madonna to have something as dated as that on her new album, so I totally get dropping it. But, what the fuck happened?

    The album version isn't bad at all. I get that people may like the demo version more and all that stuff. I personally like a version of Messiah than the one included in the album, but the album version isn't bad too.

    We have so many versions of the songs from the album plus new ones that didn't make it. that's something we don't have from the rest of the albums. This era is so rich in music, videos, promotion, performances, interviews, etc. but we have to complain, complain and complain.

    No wonder she hated that all the demos leaked. Imagine if that happened to the rest of the albums we would have fans complaining that their favorite version of a certain song didn't make it. The problem now is that we know, and instead of celebrating that we moan.

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