Bill
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yeah that's kinda dumb. I mean, he's used a picture from the ROL video
and peformances from when the song came out... of course it's going to be performed when it comes out. It's really only in recent years that most have grown tired of it. -
now they're saying she's trying to work in "Beat Goes On"
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Her years of career are numbered at this point, she's not going to "take a few years off" when she just signed the LN contract. She won't retire either. Besides, canceling the whole tour would hurt her career a lot. That would be the real backlash, not the "sellout" backlash fans talk about.
True. Gotta watch out for a backlash. Her career and popularity are THRIVING right now... wouldn't want to do anything to jeopardize that.
I bet the folks at Live Nation are wondering what they hell they were thinking... signing a multi-million dollar contract with an artist years and years after her prime.
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There is really no reason NOT to believe this.
Why wouldn't the rumors about her marriage and her affair take a toll on her?
Why wouldn't her brothers book cause her to be upset?
And yeah, everyone has bad pictures taken of them, but this goes beyond lighting and facial expressions. She looks really bad...she looks sick.
I have a feeling she's not into this tour at all. That it's just a money-making opportunity. I hope I'm wrong. But I don't think that she even likes this album, and that's why there has been little to no promo. I feel like she is totally disinterested with this era... as much as we are. And I feel like she might even be embarassed by her cheek implants... maybe that sounds silly but they don't look good and I can't imagine her feeling like they do.
I wish she would cancel this tour and take a few years off, maybe re-emerge in a few years with a fresh, new image... something a little more scaled-down and grown-up. Or maybe just retire.
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But, she's done lots of album versions (or versions close to it) on tour, so...
Anyhow, I loved LAV on GS- classic Madonna. I'm sure the casual fans hated it and didn't appreciate it, though.
Well, I was certainly no casual fan when I saw it. I was an utterly obsessed 14 year old who didn't really understand what she was doing. I wanted the album version, or something similar.
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Madonna once said that she's not interested in doing the album versions of songs on tour because, in her words, if you want to hear the album version, you can just listen to the album. I've usually enjoyed the remixed versions, with a few horrible exceptions (Like a Virgin - Girlie Show, Deeper & Deeper - Reinvention).
But this tour is gonna suck monkey balls.
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In all honesty, you grew up. It's never gonna be like it once was, with her or anyone else, because you know better now.
I think that says it all, really... priorities change as you get older. Pop stars kinda fall to the back burner.
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In fairness, it's hard for someone to maintain any sort of mystery when every single move they make is documented and plastered all over the net for us to see within minutes. Back in the day part of the mystery was not knowing what was going on. There really is no newer star out there that has the air of mystery and larger than life status that acts like M, MJ and Prince had in the 80's....it's almost impossible to do that these days. Back then, Madonna would just drop out of sight for a year and MAYBE you'd see a pap pic here and there if you went to the magazine racks and flipped through People, Us, Entertainment Weekly etc. If some of us would lay off the "Nation" (not suggesting YOU should....just generally speaking) for a while and not watch every single thing she does and every pap pic that's taken of her when she leaves the gym, maybe when she does do something it would be more appreciated. It's like people complaining about doing the same routine for HU on CT that she did in the COADF album promo performances. Well.....maybe if you wouldn't break your neck to search for every single performance of the song on every single show she went on maybe you would have no problem with it when you actually see it live.
It's just odd to me that people are making the worst judgements and predictions when most of us here adored the last tour. Not liking the current album is one thing but what would indicate that she's no good at live performing anymore? The 5 song promo gigs she did a couple months back?? Not a fair way to assess the upcoming tour IMO.
Also it seems like a lot of times M fans have the tendency to over do it a bit when she tours....the past 3 anyways. People were going to 3, 4, 5 and even 10 shows.....no wonder the excitement isn't as high this time around, kind of inevitable. Even if you just went to 1 show each on the past 3 tours I still think it's normal not to be as excited this time.
Lots of very good points. It's hard to relate to the way the world used to be. When we weren't seeing pictures of her every single day. It would sometimes be months before a sighting in a magazine or tabloid and she'd having a different hairstyle or something and that was so exciting.
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Yeah, for me it's not even so much about the music. I like the album, I really do. I think the producers made a good album.
I think Madonna had about 5% input. She probably contributed SOME lyrics and changed SOME melodies around, but I think for the most part this album was created FOR her, not BY her. And, though I do enjoy the music, I don't feel like I'm listening to a Madonna record. It's just a good, generic record. -
YES!!!!
I think this goes for everyone, its not the same anticipation as we had with RIT and CT
this is completly different
I think that "Hard Candy" has left a lot of us with a bad taste in our mouths (no pun intended) and, had the album been different (or the whole era/image/presentation for the matter), there would be more excitement. Instead, it's almost a sense of dread... and a feeling that she's going to keep repeating herself. We've all come to expect so much out of a Madonna concert because she has set the standard so high, that it is very disappointing to see such a bland setlist and you just have to wonder what she's going to do with it. In recent years, it seems that she has been relying more and more on the people around her to do the work and keep her popular, rather than her being innovating, interesting and captivating. It's like, without them, she's got nothing left to give us. Her interviews are boring. Her performances, a little uninspired. You can't just stand on stage and say "fuck" a lot and think that's all you need to do to entertain a crowd. Grow up, granny... it doesn't look good. She seems disinterested in everything. I think she's realized how much help she can get from others and she seems to use it to her fullest advantage now. It's almost as if she's just sitting back, letting her "people" keep her career going.
She used to be the definition of a megastar... Untouchable and even mysterious. That magic just doesn't really seem to be there anymore. I don't look at her and get that "Oh my God, what a fucking ICON!" feeling anymore. It's sad...
Please don't attack me for my opinion... that's all it is, my opinion. I'm still a fan, just hitting a bump in the road.
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Bill is the funniest guy on here!!!! I haven't ever seen him attack anyone!
Thank you!!!
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dude - everything u say is personal attack on someone - its all about the fact that u dont like/or agree with other peoples opinons and u rip the fucking piss
shitsmear? i think U should look in the mirror...or go else where and moan about about Madonna.
damn pigeon shit.
Get a life. I have no problems with other peoples' opinions, but I won't stand for personal insults when they're not deserved. I will, however, give them right back if I need to. Now please, go fuck off and bother someone else with your utter nonsense. I'm done with this... I have better things to do. Hit the road, loser.
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But how could Madonna NOT be worth hundreds and hundreds of dollars in tickets? She's the most PERFECT CREATION IN THE UNIVERSE EVER never to be doubted on ANYTHING
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a retard comes out with the comments u make.
truth hurts.
f- off
No, actually (not that it's any of your fucking business AT ALL), I can easily afford a ticket, I just happen to VALUE money and don't feel that this concert will be WORTH the money spent. You didn't need to turn my comments about Madonna into a personal attack, you worthless shitsmear.
Leave me alone.
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in other words all ure bitching is really a cover up for the fact that u cant afford the damn tickets in the first place...
guess its the DVD for u.
what a pathetic and unnecessary comment. you fucking retard.
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I'm done bitching about it. There are enough people that are still very excited and I don't want to be a part pooper. I hope everyone enjoys this travesty of a disastrous, laughable, embarassing tour.
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its a just a setlist
atleast shes going on tour
I'm sorry but just going on tour isn't enough. If you're going to charge people $350+ to see you, it better be a damn good show, and it better be accessible to the variety of people that are coming. That means hits. Songs that everyone knows. She's not putting on a show for herself. She's putting on a show for the 1 million people who just paid her $100 million to do it.
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Same fucking crying every tour. Has there been a bad one yet? No. When I go see S&S it will be a sell-out crowd singing to every song (yes everyone will know Impressive Instant, duh) and loving every minate of it, like it always is. Message board people whining and crying who were never going to begin with= same tired shit, different tour.
Confessions Tour sucked.And I couldn't wait to go until I found out about that shitsmear of a setlist.
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She's really gorgeous with brown hair.
Definitely
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Oh and "A league of their own"
Ahh, that makes sense. I was thinking it was from the LAP era but couldn't quite place it.
Thanks
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Laprol, that picture in your sig, where is that from?? It's magnificent!!!
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One of them is a song from Erotica, another is from American Life and a third is a HC track that's in the setlist already.
And Bill, I'm sorry but I haven't seen the DWT live and "Impressive Instant" is one of my favourites so I'm very excited coz she put it on the setlist again.
how do we know about the songs on the videos?
and as far as II, well I'm glad someone is excited then.
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Do we know what the video interludes are? Maybe they're some of the classics we've been hoping for?
Maybe, but I'd bet it's more like 3 different mixes of Candy Shop
"Give It 2 Me" on the Billboard charts
in ARCHIVE - Madonna
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will this song ever reach #1??? how long have we been waiting now?