Icykiller
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And Living for Love still one of her greatest songs.
I have to post this: I SO FVCKING AGREE!
LFL is an orgasm. It's quintessential Madonna, yet new and different. I haven't been this fond of a 1st single since Music. It's my favorite Madona song of the 2010s so far, hands down.
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I agree with you only in terms of these being Madonna's intentions. But I don't agree that the execution of BIM (song/video) completely succeeds in conveying what you or Madonna or many others here think it so brilliantly conveys. Yes, some people may not get the message at all, but many other do get it. They just don't buy it, don't like it, don't believe it. I've heard many people say that they like the song but that she is creepy or trying too hard or don't even believe that she is a party person at all. Explaining that this is kind of the point usually doesn't make them go running to their itunes account. They still judge her to be creepy, tryhard, phony. Many other people have told me that they love that she's fighting ageism but think the song is too dumb "for Madonna" (these are also the people that always end their Madonna backstabbing essays with, "She looks great, though!"). Again, if you say that's kind of the point, they obviously are not going to all of a sudden start playing the song. (I should add I mostly talk to twenty- and thirty-somethings, no idea how this translates to younger people.)
My only point is that it's not that black or white. Most people probably fall somewhere in the middle. (To be clear, I fall in this category but mostly with MNation in that I love the song and I love the video; I just wish the lyrics and vocals were a little less moronic, but I think that's more a matter of taste than of morals; her vitality and curiosity and energy continue to influence and help me so much).
As for preaching... Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but I don't think there's a single pop act in music who is preachier than her. She's also incredibly literal. But she can also be just as obscure and symbolic, usually within the same song or performance. That's why she's the greatest pop legend that has ever lived.
I feel the same way.
The greatness and downfall of BIM is that it covneys in less than 5 minures (both song and video) everything that Madonna stands for as of now in the collective conscious. A try hard who wants to recapture her 80s freshness and 90s edge while still trying to look young. All while gloryfing the current celebrity culture of being something for the sake of being in the spotlight.
If anything, BIM went from blandness to greatness by becoming a single. As many other Madonna songs in the past. Hung up itself comes to my mind... Awesome music/production/video, kinda lame lyrics, but a whole lotta message to convey to the audiences. This time, though, the pill's too hard to swallow, I think, and there's no glorious ABBA sample.
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I have grown to like this song!
Me too. I did not like it at all at first, but it's been a slow grower.
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I lovr her face in 2000. The baby fat suited her, in a more natural way than thr fillers she had some years later. Amazing what a little bit of extra weight can do! Other than that, I really like her 2003 and 2012 pictures. A bit of face lines in her face makes her look wiser, more interesting.
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There's an interview where she's clearly quite pissy about the GHV2 album and not that into it. One megamix single and it was gone.
Also, wasn't it because AP was released as a single? They so should have released Time Stood Still! But that's another thread.
Where's the gossip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is what I remember. Do not know what is true and what isn't:
1. Time stood still, the urban myth said, had an unreleased video. It was not released as single bacause M was pregnant and wanted Music out fast and before going into full maternity mode. (To be honest, I don't buy this one).
2. Apparently, there were some recording sessions at the time of GHV2, and Nobody Knows Me came about during them. However, it is not clear if she meant these songs for the greatest hits album, or had already AL on her mind.
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The French setlist is the only one that mentioned both Joan Of Arc & Wash All Over Me, since then they were not part of rumors but I seriously doubt she would ignore both of them, surely these songs are important to her and would include them on tour...
I think Madonna sometimes sacrifices a song she likes for another that flows better with her conception of the show. For instance, we now know that she wanted Falling Free to be a single, but she decided not to perform it at the MDNA tour.
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Queen has to see the light in some shape or form, it is beautiful. Heaven sounds promising, but needs some work.
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I adore many of the ones mentioned already. I'll add Like it or not in CT, simply because it was sexy as hell and she gave me a hard on.
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On my ipod: M83 and Manu Chao.
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Got 3/6. Coldplay was easy, as I had the CD way back then, and knew what sounds to look for. Mozart's was pretty obvious too. Have to admit I luckily guessed Vega's song. It was near impossible with Katy and Jay-Z, and Neil's... well, I just failed on that one, lol.
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My only issue with Candy shop (and Human nature) is that so far not one single performane is worthy of the songs' greatness. Live, they both suck, and her voice is terrible in them. She should go for an interlude, a video for Candy shop would be nice.
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Ok, I'll give it a go. Here's what my Rebel Heart, concise and 11-tracks long album would be like:
1. Ghosttown
2. Heartbreak city
2. Hold tight
3. Living for love
4. Wash all over me
5. Devil pray
6. Holy water
7. Iconic
8. Body shop
9. Queen
10. Graffiti heart
11. Borrowed time
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Is it me or does Devil Pray resembles Set the right?
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Silly. Madonna's the queen of life, period. Let the peasants fight for the pop throne.
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Living for love
Hold tight
Iconic
Body shop
Wash all over me
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I honestly do not get this obsession with hits on the setlist. Madonna puts on a show that is more about concept than sing-along. Always has, always will.
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Dying!!!!!!! I asked this in the insta thread but is the dress Peruvian??
Schiapparelli would be my guess. Not sure about the influences of it, though.
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Well what is done is done but because this was the only song she produced alone it is a bit unfortunate how things turned out.
How unfortunate? The song's brilliant. I want a post-Ghosttown meets American Life kind of video, a postwar Madonna whose only hope left is love. And this can be the mood for the RH tour! oh, ad I envision some rope dancing a la Human Nature, and tying in the image of the RH album cover.
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As close to album version as possible, I hope.
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I love this song! My fav in the album after LFL. Nice!
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It would be very interesting to hear LDLHA with her mature voice. I think it would suit the song better, and it might make for a memorable live vocal performance from M.
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This setlist is amazing!
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Video interlude or not, she should release it as 4th single. I heard Iconic on a local radio station that plays dance/EDM stuff a few months ago, and that song was made for radio!
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I hope she does medleys or small snippets of the hits. I want 3 more RH songs, I need Hold Tight!!
Would Get Together been a bigger hit if.....
in ARCHIVE - Madonna
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It should've been 2nd single. Sorry killed the momentum. I love it though, but maybe keeping it as a UK/Europe only single would have been good.