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    I WANT A NEW ALBUM

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

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    ...... but what can one associate with MDNA? What is the main theme, main look? ........

    The main theme was reduction.

    The tour WAS the era was the album was the theme. There was no theme because she "reduced" her career from MADONNA to MDNA - get it? It was basically a greatest hits era that wasn't really a greatest hits era. It's almost as if she was restating her whole career and imagery as if to remind people that she still is who she is - probably in an attempt to show that she can do Madonna better than Lady Gaga can do Madonna. I assume that this reduction was needed to get the general public into stadium seats; by wooing them with Like A Prayer (the only song that anyone knows, it seems).

    Oh, the Adidas arm-warmers were a central element, too - image-wise. I thought they were cool.

    I WANT A NEW ALBUM

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

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    I think that the next album should be shelved until she gets inspired. I think that the album needs a purpose or a message of whatever creative influence that is important to her. It is so obvious that she is over making music. I don't want her to do anything she does not want to do. As long as her heart is in it then any genre or sound will work. So lets meet up here again in 8 years or so. I don't mind waiting.

    Secret Project REVOLUTION! THE QUEEN OF LIFE!

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    in the interview she said she is going to continue the fight and is willing to go all the way

    i am curious to see what else she will do in the future

    In the interview, she did allude to a tenuous connection between branding and oppression. If she can do anything on her part it would be to eventually de-brand herself - if that makes sense. She did turn a brand event (the lingerie shoot in Rio) into a political statement, after all.

    I WANT A NEW MOVIE

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    What do you guys think about Madonna being coupled with a controversial director such as Lars Von Trier?

    Apparently, Lars had Madonna in mind for the lead when he wrote Breaking the Waves. He sent it to her but never received a response so the part went to Emily Watson. I haven't seen this particular movie but his rather recognizable style may have drawn the attention away from her role/acting/ego and thus ending up with a decent movie - does that make sense?

    Secret Project

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

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    This Secret Project seems to be turning out be a marketable version of Yoko Ono's Love/Revolution/ONOCHORD thing.
    I was at Yoko concert on Sunday and we were given tiny flashlights with which to signal "I love you." Anyway, I notice a connection and I hope it works....it would be amazing!

    Yoko quote: "Everybody now is frightened, confused, and angry because of the world situation. It is a race between the people who are trying to destroy our world and the people who will cover the Earth with love."

    http://vimeo.com/1968140

    I WANT A NEW MOVIE

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

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    I know that both her acting abilities and her directing efforts are not, for lack of a better term, desired, but I would honestly appreciate a well-directed/written movie. Something along the lines of Filth and Wisdom, but not as amateurish - you know, something fun and quirky with the potential to becoming a cult classic. I hope that one day she'll be able to finally realize her dream of putting out a long-living motion picture that has the Madonna Magic in it.

    My thoughts on MDNA Tour

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    It's not surprising that Madonna wants her tours to be so cinematic. She is after all obsessed with movies and always has been. They're her greatest source of inspiration.

    I was thinking just this. Her movie career (her life's ambition apparently) never took off so she is basically creating her own movie in the form of a cinematic tour.

    I WANT A NEW ALBUM

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

    Posted

    hi,



    Madryan summed up what I've being trying to say with the word "gestate." That would have saved me so much writing. Thanks.



    Glindathegood:


    Do you think that if LAP had been released on MDNA or Hard Candy it would eventually become the "classic" that it is having been released during her heyday? I actually don't think so. Let's be real: it's a pop song, not Beethoven's 5th. I don't think that most people would give it a chance to flourish. This is why I originally suggested that she release new stuff in a non-restrictive fashion so that she isn't left with the tour as the sole means of showcasing new material.



    So, say she releases an album within the next two years and immediately goes on tour; we'll be back where we are now - liking the new songs, but lining up to see LAP again in a nostalgic haze.



    Can't we give new material our luvin'

    I WANT A NEW ALBUM

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

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    But the visuals still play a large role in her career. She has just moved them to another medium. Instead of music videos which you watch on MTV or VH1, she does her visuals as tour backdrops and how she presents her songs in her shows. You are dismissing her tours too much as not important, where they are very much about visuals and pop spectacle that you claim to be missing.

    I enjoy new music, but I also still enjoy hearing a few older songs as well. I think the mix on her recent tours is good and she should keep that. She does a lot of new stuff, but she still does the classics that made most people fans. The performance of LAP on the last tour was one of the most moving spiritual performances I've ever seen. It was a very important part of the tour and without it the tour wouldn't be as great as it was. It's not just about hearing the song. Yes, you can listen to LAP at home, but it doesn't have the same effect as a whole arena singing along to it live. She brings her older songs to life as well in her tours. A new album isn't long enough to fill up a whole tour. She needs to do some older songs to make her shows the right length.

    a) Yes, she moved the visuals to another medium, and I'm happy she did. The MDNA Tour wasn't her usual "theatrical" show, but "cinematic" in nature - if that makes sense. I realized that the concert WAS, essentially, her new music video which I've been waiting for. Genius!

    b) The difference between our respective opinions is this: I am not dismissing the tour as an important conduit of her creative visuals; but, I am dismissing it as a dependable means of anchoring a musical career especially in terms of future musical output.

    There is no doubt that old material is necessary for giant stadium tours. When you say that people want to hear the songs that "made" them fans in the first place I cannot help but worry that the operative word is "made" versus "making." I think that the demand for oldies, by hardcore fans and casual fans, will eventually overwhelm the requirement, if you will, to create NEW quality songs. By quality I mean something like a new LAP. No song, no matter how great it is, can become as epochal as LAP unless it is bred in a popular mainstream environment.

    Therefore, I believe that many people, indeed, do feel that the performance of LAP on MDNA is "moving and spiritual," as you write, because they were waiting for that oldie, in particular. But, they (fans and general public) were waiting for it less so because it is a great song, but more so because they do not really care about the new stuff as much.

    So, I worry about a new album (which is the topic of this thread) because it may ultimately play into the current environment (as MDNA did) whereby no new song has the capacity or potential to ever compete with the old classics. This is the primary reason why I think that she should re-imagine the release of new material.

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