Supernatural
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what the fuck else would they do with their time? show me one post in one thread where the same people aren't bitching and whining. someone recently told me, you will never find a madonna forum where there is no bitchiness. i guess it's the nature of the majority of her fans. sad, really.
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most busy message boards are just people crying.
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all I'm saying is see if you even need to resort to stubhub. i don't think most people will.
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well, what happend to the 10 miilion ppl who bought the TIC?
I remember watching the chart history of TIC when it first came out and it was pretty unimpressive for a Madonna GH CD. Peaked at #2 and fell off the charts certified at 2 million. No one rushed out to buy it and it sold over time is my point.
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By signing a deal w/Live Nation she is at the mercy of making sure her shows bring in every penny they can. We will probably start seeing insane merchandising with her name pretty soon too. At the same time, aren't tickets a little cheaper this tour than the last??
I can understand the stubhub thing is lame but I'm not bothered as I think with minimal effort at Ticketmaster we should all be able to get decent seats. If this was the first tour in 15 years and everyone was going nuts to get ticktes I would be annoyed, but I don't think tickets are going to be difficult this time everything considered. Stubhub will most likely be for people with money to burn who can't be bothered to check back at Ticketmaster a couple of times.
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Mariah is the obvious Mother's Day gift over Hard Candy.
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Madonna has thanked her fans in many of her award speeches. I think we've scored more thanks than any husbands or family. I can't even read the Hard Candy writing on the last pages to know if 'i' got thanked.
A lot of what you guys complain about here day in and out is stuff that she has nothing to do with. Hundreds of people work for her and of course some of them are going to fuck up.
As for Madonna vs. Mariah in the fan treatment dept., Madonna pissed off some fans at an American Life signing for having to leave at a certain time and not getting to everyone. To make up for it some of those fans recieved a copy of that gigantic x-static process book (which cost $100s). on the other hand, Mariah showed up to her signing late and didn't sign for half the fans- who got squat. Nither of these woman give a shit about you or I personally, because they do not know us, Mariah is just fake enough to make it seem she and her fans have love-ins. Don't kid yourself that one cares more than another.
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yeah that article is just to make negative buzz.
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If she can get this thing TELEVISED PROPERLY, that would probably be a nice boost.
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Mariah had nothing to do with Madonna's lack of promotion.
Madonna certainly could have helped her cause too!
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War In Iraq-Blame Mariah!
The Economy Is Down In The U.S.-Blame Mariah!
The World Is Ending-Blame Mariah!
Lets blame anything that goes wrong in the world on Mariah.
Come on now, I don't like Mariah either, but lets be fair. It's ridiculous to blame her for Madonna's "so called" dissapointing first week sales.If Madonna's first week looks like a disapointment its because Mariah had just opened with large numbers due to her fool proof promotion. She had nothing to do with Madonna's first week sales but played a part in making them look unimpressive. That was the chart battle people were watching, but you could also put a positive spin on it and call it the 3rd best opening of the year so far, etc. Someone with a negative spin (Roger Friedman) will mention Mariah's #s and say Madonna's sales left something to be desired.
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I'm sure this is a Live Nation move, who need to make every penny they can back off the 160M deal they made with her.
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With the economy what it is and Madonna touring more frequently I think it will be fairly easy to avoid this situation and score tickets as originally priced.
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Mother's Day and the tour news may shift a couple more copies than expected.
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“In the past, people would tour to promote their albums; today they put out albums to promote their tours”.
http://www.glidemagazine.com/hiddentrack/b...treme-makeover/
Exactly. Madonna is in a fantastic position right now. It fustrating to see press and fans bicker about album sales when in the grand scheme Madonna is light years ahead. If you like numbers just look at Madonna's touring #'s compared to other acts. And in that department Mariah Carey may as well be Paula Abdul. Mariah Carey always has been and always will be smoke and mirrors. I wasn't kidding a few posts ago- the day will come where she's gloating because she debuts with 45 copies to Madonnas 26.
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Family and homes in UK/USA.
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They haven't liked Madonna for a long time.
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It really isn't a flop or disappointment considering the levels they promoted the albums, but the media as well as fans will see it as such and see it as "proof" that Mariah is bigger.
As album sales drop every year where will Mariah be in a few years? Finished.
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Yes but things are different now with very little money to be made with album sales. Even when albums were selling 10-20 million acts were complaining they weren't seeing their money, can you imagine what it must be like now? A huge tour is now the equlivelent of scoring a Thriller or Jagged Little Pill in the music business. Mariah is going to do everything under the sun and her album will end up selling like an early 90's Madonna album. No one that doesn't have to stay stuck there is going to.
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I wish we knew what Madonna is thinking so we could stop speculating, but it's possible she would rather save the Oprah sort of promo for her albums with Live Nation (where she'll have more to prove and more $ to make)... or maybe she only cares about touring (like Mariah only cares about #'s) and albums are just a launching pad for her fan base to come out... we really have no idea but in the end she's going to make a fortune touring this year while Mariah um... eats a Famous Bowl at KFC. That's about it once she can't move any more copies of her album. There'll be the re-release, a divorce from Nick Cannon, and that's about it til the next album. And what will sales be then? Will we be arguing how Mariah worked for her 56 copies sold and Madonna didn't to debut with 27 copies? Everything's changing so fast, Billboard may be irrelevant in a couple of years. I feel like I'm stating the obvious but if you look over the past year it's clear that touring is priority #1 for M.
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Today's NY Daily News mentioned the album making #1 along with a number of positive comments.
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The Other White Meat Tour
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She toured for American Life w/o a problem. And by the time of her next CD who knows what a hit CD will be selling... I don't think any of this is an issue, except maybe what someone said about her touring a lot. But even if say the UK and US get burned out and the writing is on the wall, she could just go to other countries.
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My Fans Over React To Everything Tour
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#1 in 27 countries? How many did COADF get?
US Chart Talk: 5/24/08
in ARCHIVE - Madonna
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She may be waiting to promote the 2nd single, which may be a good idea since the 1st single DID sell itself.
Patience.