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    Eurovision (part 34939338 Zzzzzzzz....)

    in ARCHIVE - The MADAME X Forum

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    Let me begin to say that this is not going to affect her legacy negatively in the long run.  Why don’t we just enjoy what she is putting out as fans and stop worrying about other people. Let me ask the fans who is bitching about this, would you rather m to play it safe and stop doing any tv performance? You really rather she retires and never see her again in order to protect her legacy? If you rather preserve to the memory of m of youth and power than having opportunities to still see her on tv, you probably don’t like her that much.  You just like the idea of her being the best of everything.  It is like love. If you love someone, you treasure the time to be with her and want to see her. On the other hand, you might also think you love someone because you like the idea to be with someone with jealousy-evoking qualities-young, pretty or rich.  Besides, I really think I there is lot of fake news going on here.  It is blown out of proportion!! She is not the best singer and we all know. Have you guys seen the first time she sang hung up live, she didn’t sound perfect either? But every fan loves that performance.  My point is that a big part of our negative feelings towards the performance come from he negative comments by m haters. Fake news and we got played every time. 

    Madonna's CONTROVERSIAL & SHOW-STOPPING Eurovision performance

    in ARCHIVE - The MADAME X Forum

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    Over the past few weeks since this era began, I fully experienced the power of fake news and media/ internet negativity. I was extremely nervous before both tv performance this time around.( I think it is her fall during the rebel heart period) I was perfectly happy after both performances. Then, I watched WENDY.  I was saddened by how she described her moves. That made me more nervous this time. Then  I was actually quite satisfied with the stage visuals, message and choreography for Eurovision) as I expected she wouldn’t dance too much given her song selection and small stage). I felt that her choreography was good given the limitation, better than the highly praised performance by Beyoncé when she was pregnant. I didn’t feel “future” before the performance and found it impressive after watching it. Yet, after I read the tweets and comments here, once again I feel so disappointed and sad. Speaking of her vocal, it was not bad.  Remember the highly praised first hung up performance? She didn’t sound perfect either.  The difference is that we have tweeter and social media this time around and m has lots of detractors/ haters. When there are enough of them, they can easily change our opinion, how we feel about a performance.  It is eps true when everyone deep down is a little insecure about getting older and our idol getting older.  So guys, please stop the negativity.  Focus on the good things  and spread the good words.  Otherwise, we won’t have a chance  with the haters and fake news  and it is only going to get worse when she gets older  

     

    The BOXSCORE thread [part 1]

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

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    I think her absence from Australia truly affected her sales. Even as a fan, I am always much more into her atfter I see a concert or performance. If she can go there for a little promotion before the tour, it will definitely help. Whenever she goes to a foreign country, the min she steps out of the airport, it is all free publicity.

    The BOXSCORE thread [part 1]

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

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    I have a feeling m and her team took everything into account when they planned for the tour. Remember the mdna special Paris show? Ms publicist mentioned that the production cost for that smaller show was one million. They knew that this tour is an arena tour and won't sell as many tickets. That's why they have to manage the budget carefully. I like both mdna and rebel heart tour equally, but I feel they are differnt kinda shows. One was more threatrical and the other is intimate and interactive. At the end of the day, they still want to make similar profits. I believe the rebel heart tour will end up lasting longer. That is why dancing is a little less intensive for this tour so that m can do it doe more dates. As far as I can see, ct was a arena tour while s&s and mdna were stadium tours. The former was less dance intensive while the latter two were. I feel that rebel heart tour is similar to ct, but lasting for long and more dates, possible a second leg and might still ending with 250 to 300 million.

    ATLANTIC CITY 10/3/15

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

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    I love the show too. I saw it 3 times already. I just noticed something about her dancing style and mentioned it. That's all. I lovvvvvvvved the show and m. Still having post Madonna concert depression. For your info, the ac crowd was very good and energetic.

    ATLANTIC CITY 10/3/15

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

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    Lol....well I'm glad you feel a little better!! :) I definitely understand how you feel. Some friends have been telling me I'm too obsessed since 1992 so don't feel bad! Lol

    . It is good to be here to be surrounded by like-minded folks. :)

    ATLANTIC CITY 10/3/15

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

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    I want to make it clear first I am not complaining. I really love the show and I had a good time. I just had a feeling that she didn't dance as much comparing to s&s n mdna and brought it up just because I wanted to illustrate my thoughts and show my care and concern for her. Dancing or not, I still love her. Having said that, when I watched the confession tour on video, I also felt that she didn't dance as much as s&s n mdna, so I guess it is her choice to do a different kind of show rather than her age. Both mdna and s&s were stadium shows and confession and rebel heart are arena shows. Maybe she based her decision on the types of show she is giving. She also wears heels this time rather than flats or sneakers like celebration in mdna. That makes a difference too. I usually like to brag to friends how swiftly she moves and how fast and youthful she dances comparing to other pop girls. Now I will brag how beautiful and delicately she moves. Either way, I love her very much. No complaints at all here.

    ATLANTIC CITY 10/3/15

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

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    First off I am happy you had an amazing time, but....

    A. Madonna. Will. Never.. Retire. Trust me. The woman doesn't know the meaning of the word. I expect this kind of talk from non fans who don't know any better, but her fans should know better by now. She will never stop. She will rest when she is dead as she once said.

    B. Yes there are less large dance numbers this tour, but I think that's what Madonna wanted. She said she wanted a more intimate show which I think involves her connecting to the audience more, so I would think she would focus more on saving her energy for giving amazing vocals instead of relying on backing tracks while she is dancing her ass off, and instead chose to do more stripped down numbers where she can be more in tune with the audience. I wondered the same thing during her Confessions Tour which many say is one of her best, but she did leave most of the dancing for that show up to her dancers. But then came Sticky and Sweet which was one big aerobic workout from start to finish pretty much. I have no doubt Madonna could still pull that off if she wanted.

    And yes after this era we are probably in for a couple years of a Madonna drought especially if she decided to direct another movie, but she is only 57!!!!! Not 77. I have no doubt her 60s are going to be as fruitful as her 50s with plenty of amazing moments headed our way. If Tina Turner can still tour in her 70s why should we assume Madonna wont be doing the same?

    Tks for sharing your experience. I have been a fan for quite some time now, but still relatively new comparing to u. Hopefully I will know better. It is good to hear your assurance that she is not retiring any time soon. :)

    ATLANTIC CITY 10/3/15

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

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    The ol' post-Madonna show depression! Lol I felt the same way after my show. Incredibly happy but at the same time depressed that this show I had been looking forward to for six months was finally over. Even now, I feel like I talk about the show too much.....lol....giving everyone updates on the different stops as the tour goes on. You are probably right about her taking a pretty long break from music after this tour. The "Rebel Heart Project" will have consumed over two years of her life by the time this tour is over. I'm sure she will be itching to do another movie. Next year, it will already be 5-6 years since she worked on WE. I'm not worried about her retiring though. Personally, I don't think she will ever retire. She loves what she does far too much and she herself has said a few times this era that she's still hungry as an artist and feels like there is still more for her to say. Clearly, she's still in peak physical form so our girl will be on the road again in the next few years.

    I can distinctly remember thinking after seeing DWT live that she wasn't dancing quite like she danced on the previous tours and that at age 42, she was slowing down and that we were nearing the end of her touring years......let's not forget also that just three years prior to that tour, she said she could never see herself "stomping around MSG and making pop music/videos" at 50 years old.....lol.....well, we all see what happened with all of those "assumptions". At 50, she did what was probably her most physically demanding show yet with S&S. Madonna is still every bit as capable of dancing as hard as she did with MDNA, this is just a different type of show. That's what's amazing about her, she's so fucking versatile! She can pull off A TB/WTG performance as convincingly as a GGW/GMAYL type performance and the audience loves them equally. I think if we ever see a true, Cher style "farewell tour", it won't be until she is WELL into her 70's or even 80's. She's not done. She's completely re-writing this whole "pop star" book.

    Btw, congrats to Billy!! Love the rapport she has with you! You are such a lucky boy!! :)

    Also, re: pot at M shows.....idk what it is, but no matter where I end up seeing her, EVERY single time, I smell pot either in the bathroom before the show, or I'll catch a whiff during the show. I'm not mad though......at all!! Lol

    Tks for your words of wisdom. Lol. I guess I feel better after reading your post. Anyway, I know I can direct my obsession to this forum. At least some people can understand what is that I am feeling. LolAll my friends think I am silly and too obsessed at this point. They are probably tired of my Madonna talk. Lol

    ATLANTIC CITY 10/3/15

    in ARCHIVE - Madonna

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    I have an epi of rebel heart tour withdrawal because the tour was so good and I was so near the stage. . I am obsessed with madonna today. Can't help but mentioning m every 3 sentences. Constantly sending pics and videos to friends. I think of the details or images of yesterday's show every few mins. My friends are tired of talking to me already. More importantly, I feel a sadness and an emptiness knowing after this tour, she will take a break from music n touring. I alos worry she might even retire. I don't know if I think too much. I noticed she doesn't dance as much as her last tour and worry she has to cut back on dancing.

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